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    (Original post by Roger Kirk)
    I did read something a year or so back which looked at why in athletics the sprints and jumps are dominated by black people while the longer races throws tend to be dominated by white people (all when you consider people from the same country, eg the UK, the US or other European country).

    It said something like the genetic make up of black people meant they could more efficiently generate the energy from respiration that was necessary for the quick bursts of energy needed to power the body down the track or along the runway.

    I think there was something more cultural about the thrown....specialist equipment is needed, which not all people can get easily get hold of, especially if they are poor. In many of these western countries black people tend to be shifted more towards the poorer ends of society and so were unable to get the same access to the equipment needed to compete at more technical events.

    I wish I could remember where I read this now....
    Looking back at the more evolved circulatory system, this includes a higher red blood cell count. This improves the amount of oxygen absorbed into the blood, but makes the blood thicker, so the heart has to work harder to pump the blood, and so tires sooner. As a result, those with slightly thinner blood tend to have an advantage in marathons, as they have no need for much more oxygen (since it is at a slower pace) but can push their hearts for longer, because their blood is easier to circulate.
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    But as for why black Africans end to be better than white Europeans at long distance races I can't remember what the thing I read said....I'd presume that it might be a mix of genetics and environment, with the environment in Africa serving as the perfect climate for extending peoples strength and stamina in extreme conditions (I think it might be more the environment as in the UK black people don't really have any showing in long distance races).
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    (Original post by The Mudman)
    Just out of interest, if I had said that "Whites are a more superior and advanced race - fact." I'm sure that I would have been wilting under a barrage of comments already, telling me how racist I was. Why is your comment any different?
    Its ok for blacks to say this about whites because whites know that they are advanced so they can just ignore it, there has to be sympathy for blacks though since they might not be as advanced. I believe this is the same with racism, its always the percieved 'weaker' lot that can get away with calling others.
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    (Original post by Roger Kirk)
    I did read something a year or so back which looked at why in athletics the sprints and jumps are dominated by black people while the longer races throws tend to be dominated by white people (all when you consider people from the same country, eg the UK, the US or other European country).

    It said something like the genetic make up of black people meant they could more efficiently generate the energy from respiration that was necessary for the quick bursts of energy needed to power the body down the track or along the runway.

    I think there was something more cultural about the thrown....specialist equipment is needed, which not all people can get easily get hold of, especially if they are poor. In many of these western countries black people tend to be shifted more towards the poorer ends of society and so were unable to get the same access to the equipment needed to compete at more technical events.

    I wish I could remember where I read this now....
    I believe in sprinting it's that black people naturally have an abundance of fast-twitch fibres compared to white athletes, ie the type of fibres used for sprinting.

    And in long distance although it is not exclusivally dominated by blacks, you can hardly deny the talent of countries of Ethopia and Kenya. I think its due to their high altitdude training (in some cases) and and general lifestyle of living so far away from each other that make them naturally such good endurance athletes.

    (Original post by xavier2k3)
    i still fail to see how you can miss that out though. one of the most successful female tennis sisters to date.
    In my sexist mind I was only thinking about male tennis stars, and yes I forgot the Williams sisters (largely becuase they havn't done anything recently). But tennis is mostly won by white athletes.
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    (Original post by xavier2k3)
    i still fail to see how you can miss that out though. one of the most successful female tennis sisters to date.
    You can say the same with sprinters, think of a really succesful white sprinter (im no good with names lol), does this mean that both whites and blacks are as equally good and successful at sprinting? Not in general there are far more blacks.
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    (Original post by Roger Kirk)
    But as for why black Africans end to be better than white Europeans at long distance races I can't remember what the thing I read said....I'd presume that it might be a mix of genetics and environment, with the environment in Africa serving as the perfect climate for extending peoples strength and stamina in extreme conditions (I think it might be more the environment as in the UK black people don't really have any showing in long distance races).
    is it not possible to link it to evolution and black people in africa many moons ago, being hunters etc

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    Its ok for blacks to say this about whites because whites know that they are advanced so they can just ignore it, there has to be sympathy for blacks though since they might not be as advanced. I believe this is the same with racism, its always the percieved 'weaker' lot that can get away with calling others.
    but fundamentally, isn't racism born out of ignorance anyway? if it wasn't for adaptations, we'd all be the same colour.

    (Original post by alio~)
    You can say the same with sprinters, think of a really succesful white sprinter (im no good with names lol), does this mean that both whites and blacks are as equally good and successful at sprinting? Not in general there are far more blacks.
    yeh i understand what you mean totally, it swings both ways.

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    (Original post by horrorboy)
    Its ok for blacks to say this about whites because whites know that they are advanced so they can just ignore it, there has to be sympathy for blacks though since they might not be as advanced. I believe this is the same with racism, its always the percieved 'weaker' lot that can get away with calling others.
    And you're a racist yourself. I'd just like to point out to all who read this that I was merely demonstrating a point, and have not made any racist comment myself.

    I do however, believe that some things are ok for ethnics/blacks to do, that aren't ok for whites. For example, I picked up a magazine the other day that gace employment opportunities only for black/ethnic persons. If such a magazine had been produced advertising "white only job opporunities", there would have been a public outrage...
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    (Original post by xavier2k3)
    is it not possible to link it to evolution and black people in africa many moons ago, being hunters etc
    Have you read any of my posts?
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    (Original post by The Mudman)
    And you're a racist yourself. I'd just like to point out to all who read this that I was merely demonstrating a point, and have not made any racist comment myself.

    I do however, believe that some things are ok for ethnics/blacks to do, that aren't ok for whites. For example, I picked up a magazine the other day that gace employment opportunities only for black/ethnic persons. If such a magazine had been produced advertising "white only job opporunities", there would have been a public outrage...
    I was just pointing out my opinion of what is perceived by the public, if this is racist then fair play, its not easy these days to avoid being racist anyway.
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    (Original post by The Mudman)
    Have you read any of my posts?
    no, actually.

    i mentioned it earlier in one of my posts myself though.

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    Ahhhh.... I must apologise! I just re-read your post, and realised I'd originally mis-read it. Sorry mate! I take it back.
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    (Original post by Ads.)
    I believe in sprinting it's that black people naturally have an abundance of fast-twitch fibres compared to white athletes, ie the type of fibres used for sprinting.

    And in long distance although it is not exclusivally dominated by blacks, you can hardly deny the talent of countries of Ethopia and Kenya. I think its due to their high altitdude training (in some cases) and and general lifestyle of living so far away from each other that make them naturally such good endurance athletes.


    In my sexist mind I was only thinking about male tennis stars, and yes I forgot the Williams sisters (largely becuase they havn't done anything recently). But tennis is mostly won by white athletes.
    winning wimbledon 2005 counts for nothing then, i'll tell venus to return her prize


    also its been said by sprinting professionals white and black...that it'll be a long time before any white man can run 100m sprint under 10 secs! wherease all professional black athletes have-well the good ones anyways
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    (Original post by DaBand)
    winning wimbledon 2005 counts for nothing then, i'll tell venus to return her prize
    i said exactly the same thing. it wasn't just 2005 dont forget. either sister has won it. plus they've done the womens doubles.

    (Original post by The Mudman)
    Ahhhh.... I must apologise! I just re-read your post, and realised I'd originally mis-read it. Sorry mate! I take it back.
    if that was addressed to me, no probs!:cool:

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    They are just more powerful physically
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    (Original post by xavier2k3)
    if that was addressed to me, no probs!:cool:
    Actually, it was addressed to horrorboy...
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    (Original post by everylittleting)
    I heard something about about them having better/more efficient (or something) muscle fibres. However these are heavier which is why you don't see as many in the swimming pool as they sink faster

    can't remember where I heard that though


    More fast twitch/slow twich fibres, one or the other.. We all have a proportion of each and each use oxygen differently, black people genetically predisposed to have more of the type that makes running etc much easier on the body. Well, something along those lines.. GCSE PE was a long long time ago :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by alio~)
    than whites? Or they tend to be. People say its because they are physically stronger or because they are expected to be good from a young age so train harder.. I don't know what do you think.:confused:
    Where did you get that idea from lol??? i feel there equally as good
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    Take away black people from our NBA and you have no teams I think its just becauase more black seem to be more involved in that stuff and...or maybe we're just that good lol
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    it depends on which sports.

    football is dominated by whites
    cricket is dominated by asians
    basketball is dominated by blacks
    hockey is dominated by asians/whites
    rugby is dominated by white/black
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    They are better at running because of thier larger achilles-sp? tendon
 
 
 
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