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    I was wondering whether those that are privately educated have a bigger chance of getting offers at universities (any, not just Oxbridge).

    Or is this just a mere myth?
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    You don't get an offer because of the school you went to. People may think this due to private school kids getting better results than the average state school kid.
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    In that they'll get better grades than if they weren't privately educated, and so be advantaged in that way, yes.
    In that Universities will give them an offer based purely or at least partly on the fact that they were privately educated, no.
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    With social engineering, I'd say it is more likely that you'll get an offer if you are state school educated.
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    (Original post by toblerone93)
    Myth

    You don't get an offer because of the school you went to. People may think this due to private school kids getting better results than the average state school kid.
    Yeah thats what I always thought, but I meant, say hypothetically speaking, there were two identical candidates, one privately educated, the other not. Who, in your opinion, would they choose?

    I think i'd choose the non-privately educated because they might need it more?
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    I would also choose the non-privately educated if they had the same grades, cos surely they have more ability by getting identical grades but with the disadvantage of not having the best teaching available?
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    (Original post by A.R.E)
    Yeah thats what I always thought, but I meant, say hypothetically speaking, there were two identical candidates, one privately educated, the other not. Who, in your opinion, would they choose?

    I think i'd choose the non-privately educated because they might need it more?
    Errr no... it's nothing to do with need. It's to do with the considerably higher probability of the state candidate having had to endure poorer teaching/resources etc and yet still managing to match the private candidates grades.
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    So then, what is the advantage of being privately educated?

    The type of people your surrounded by?

    Surely people in state schools aren't all "bad".

    So could someone tell me what the point is?
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    when it comes to choosing between candidates with similar grades, the state educated is more likely as the fact that they are achieving the grades shows more evidence of natural ability
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    (Original post by A.R.E)
    So then, what is the advantage of being privately educated?

    The type of people your surrounded by?

    Surely people in state schools aren't all "bad".

    So could someone tell me what the point is?
    Increased probability of gaining strong grades, high quality of teaching, alternative teaching styles, prestige etc etc.
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    I know an admissions tutor at a University . He says he is not even remotely interested in whether a potential student is state or privately educated, just in the quality of the potential student.
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    (Original post by A.R.E)
    So then, what is the advantage of being privately educated?

    The type of people your surrounded by?

    Surely people in state schools aren't all "bad".

    So could someone tell me what the point is?
    class size
    and

    £5K spent per pupil each year in the state system
    £10k spent per pupil each year in private system
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    If anything, if everything else is equal, they are more likely to pick a state schooled person, as they will have had to put more effort in.
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    (Original post by matt2k8)
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    If anything, if everything else is equal, they are more likely to pick a state schooled person, as they will have had to put more effort in.
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    Myth. If you have the right grades, there's nothing to stop you getting offers

    And as for advantages of private schools - better facilities, smaller class sizes, more extra-curricular clubs and a wider range of sports and opportunities... You don't pay the money for nothing!
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    OK - this thread has run its course I think.

    Some private schools are a lot worse in terms of average academic achievement than some state schools. However, in general, privately educated students achieve a disproportionately large number of the top grades. This will be for a number of reasons, natural selection being one of them. As in, people who are bright academically will tend to (a) earn more (b) have children who are equally bright and (c) opt to place their children in the private sector if the local state sector is dire. Bright (middle-class) kids tend to do well, wherever they are. Unis want bright people, and are rightly resistant to the idea that they shouldn't. Bright kids in schools with low expectations/average achievement are at a disadvantage and unis generally will take this into account, as they should.

    What unis can't do by themselves is deal with the teachers in these low achieving/low expectation schools, who sometimes actively discourage kids from aiming high. And they certainly can't do anything about the lamentable quality of some of the primary education that's on offer, particularly in high-density urban areas. The fact that some schools can and do turn themselves around shows what's possible, but if we can't even get primary education right it's hardly surprising that results at secondary level can be pretty grim.

    To answer the OP's question, a privately educated student is more likely to be at higher ranked unis because they tend to have higher grades and more of them, not because they are privately educated. Students with higher grades are more likely to get offers because they have those grades, not because of the school they went to.
 
 
 

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