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    I'd agree with FormerlyFrisbeeFan - vibrato is good in certain contexts, but it needs to be appropriate to the music. It's partly a case of period - as she says, you shouldn't use much in Baroque music. It can also vary within a piece - if you're trying to make an effective crescendo, for example, you can start with little vibrato and increase it as you get louder to make the sound warmer and louder.

    There's also resonance, which people sometimes confuse with vibrato - you need to have a resonant sound without vibrato, so that vibrato-less sounds can still have a warm, colourful tone.
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    (Original post by Bezzler)
    I'd agree with FormerlyFrisbeeFan - vibrato is good in certain contexts, but it needs to be appropriate to the music. It's partly a case of period - as she says, you shouldn't use much in Baroque music. It can also vary within a piece - if you're trying to make an effective crescendo, for example, you can start with little vibrato and increase it as you get louder to make the sound warmer and louder.

    There's also resonance, which people sometimes confuse with vibrato - you need to have a resonant sound without vibrato, so that vibrato-less sounds can still have a warm, colourful tone.
    I've got a HORRIBLE recording of Shostakovich 10, where they've absolutely overloaded on it.
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    Part of Gurrelieder; gets especially good around 4:10 and on.
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    (Original post by Haeron)
    Part of Gurrelieder; gets especially good around 4:10 and on.
    Have you read Bojan Bujic's book on "Uncle Arnie" as he calls him? Bojan was my tutor when I was at Magdalen 76-79 - we started at the same time so we became quite good friends even though I was more interested in Jazz than Classical.
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    (Original post by Fletch)
    Have you read Bojan Bujic's book on "Uncle Arnie" as he calls him? Bojan was my tutor when I was at Magdalen 76-79 - we started at the same time so we became quite good friends even though I was more interested in Jazz than Classical.
    I haven't read all of that, but I have used portions of it for Mods extended essay. Great stuff, nice to have some cultural context in there. Apparently Bujic's a riot if you get to know him. Larry suggested I invite him for drinks...
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    (Original post by FormerlyFrisbeeFan)
    I think vibrato should be used only in order to make music more beautiful...to naturally enhance the line of the melody. It has to be very well controlled, because different pieces suit different sort of vibrato. What I hate is the 'one-size-fits-all' vibrato that a lot of younger players produce. Fair enough if they're just starting to learn how to do it, but I always stress with pupils how important it is to fit the vibrato to the music. Wide, romantic vibrato would be inappropriate for baroque music, for example.
    (Original post by Bezzler)
    I'd agree with FormerlyFrisbeeFan - vibrato is good in certain contexts, but it needs to be appropriate to the music. It's partly a case of period - as she says, you shouldn't use much in Baroque music. It can also vary within a piece - if you're trying to make an effective crescendo, for example, you can start with little vibrato and increase it as you get louder to make the sound warmer and louder.

    There's also resonance, which people sometimes confuse with vibrato - you need to have a resonant sound without vibrato, so that vibrato-less sounds can still have a warm, colourful tone.
    Hmm, pretty much the same as me. Especially agree with the comment about resonance - if people are just using vibrato to hide bad tone, that isn't good.

    Anyway, to make an actual contribution to the thread, if anyone doesn't know it JCHBONNET's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/JCHBONNET) has some fantastic lesser known music mostly from the 20th century (mostly fairly tonal stuff from what I've listened to, lots of piano music).
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    (Original post by Haeron)
    I haven't read all of that, but I have used portions of it for Mods extended essay. Great stuff, nice to have some cultural context in there. Apparently Bujic's a riot if you get to know him. Larry suggested I invite him for drinks...
    He has a very dry sense of humour and especially enjoys interlingual puns. I couldn't figure out why he kept chuckling as I read an essay when I refered to "Mahlerian fingerprints". Aparently Mahler is German for painter Is he still teaching then? I thought he had retired.
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    (Original post by Fletch)
    He has a very dry sense of humour and especially enjoys interlingual puns. I couldn't figure out why he kept chuckling as I read an essay when I refered to "Mahlerian fingerprints". Aparently Mahler is German for painter Is he still teaching then? I thought he had retired.
    Superb! He's not still teaching, but Larry still suggested I email him for drinks. I'm not sure why myself!
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    Bumping with Alkan:



    I don't hear enough about this guy.
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    That was lovely. I thought the chair starting to creak at the end was a dry applause :awesome:



    Interesting if you're familiar with the original, didn't know an orchestration existed




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    (Original post by danadd9)
    Bumping with Alkan:

    I don't hear enough about this guy.
    I have honestly never understood the interest in Alkan. Even Kenneth Hamilton over at Birmingham likes it, said he'd try and 'bring me round' during my interview. To me his music just sounds like second-rate Mendelssohn, and that takes doing.

    Medtner, on the other hand...

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    (Original post by Haeron)
    I have honestly never understood the interest in Alkan. Even Kenneth Hamilton over at Birmingham likes it, said he'd try and 'bring me round' during my interview. To me his music just sounds like second-rate Mendelssohn, and that takes doing.

    Medtner, on the other hand...

    Hamelin...he plays Alkan's Symphony for Solo Piano fairly well .
    Do you not even like his Organ works?
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    (Original post by danadd9)
    Hamelin...he plays Alkan's Symphony for Solo Piano fairly well .
    Do you not even like his Organ works?
    Rather like running a great 1500m sausage-hat contest. Great athletics, but you've got a sausage on your head, and you don't know where it's been.

    Do link me to the organ works though, I don't know them.
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    Have anyone ever heard of

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy1s3kaG4Rk
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    Thoughts on this? http://www.slate.com/id/2245891/
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    Glad I found this thread.
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    (Original post by j.alexanderh)
    Thoughts on this? http://www.slate.com/id/2245891/
    Any 'period' performance is actually a reflection of our ideas of the past. All this stuff is not reconstruction but a construction of a certain opinion of the past. It's interesting, but claims to 'truth' are a problem with the older vestiges of the period movement, cliches which seem to find a home here. Composer intentionality is an impossible dream!
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    (Original post by philistine)
    Glad I found this thread.
    Unfortunately this thread has been dead for quite some time. Have you got any recommendations we can all listen to?
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    (Original post by vitamortis)
    Unfortunately this thread has been dead for quite some time. Have you got any recommendations we can all listen to?
    I would have posted some before, though I was quite engaged at the time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPcnGrie__M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l5q9QgjojM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXoy...ature=youtu.be

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAoQo...ature=youtu.be

    http://youtu.be/VBgwk98ZPuI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPcnGrie__M

    http://youtu.be/aGGPEDWQA5A

    http://youtu.be/2Yavud8xtdc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtB0xB182_Q

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoIZeLhMXLs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7V9yzgEwR0

    Some variety there, albeit not particularly adventurous. It's late though, so gimme' a break.
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