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Nothing matters much and in the end nothing matters at all

A friend of mine likes to quote this remark, by A. J. Balfour, probably the only intellectual ever to be Prime Minister of Britain. The interesting thing is that although he agrees with it himself he doesn't at all like the idea of having a prime minister who agreed with it. I think this may be a common attituide, so I thought i'd check.

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Reply 1

What an apathetic, patronising and defeatist attitude!

No PM who gave a clue they were of this mindset would have a snowball's hell in chance of getting my support.

I am truly aghast!! :eek:

Reply 2

Now why did that remark suddenly brighten my day? Oh yes, because I'm feeling angry and sad over exams... :mad: :frown:

Reply 3

Gwenyth!
Now why did that remark suddenly brighten my day? Oh yes, because I'm feeling angry and sad over exams... :mad: :frown:


lol - now that shows just how single-minded you are at the moment! :smile:

I hope you get the grades you desire. Perhaps then you will see that some things do matter. :wink:

Reply 4

From a philosophical point of view it could be argued that he is right. In a way, most debate is meaningless, for example with ideologies such as socialism, liberalism and conservatism, the arguments will go on for ever, and only ever evolve. An argument between a socialist and a conservative could theoretically be an infinite argument, if perhaps they were robots. I'm trying to say that there is no "final answer", no catch-all solution to political problems.

If there is no chance of a solution to a problem, is there any point trying to solve it? Think on that.

Reply 5

Weejimmie
A friend of mine likes to quote this remark, by A. J. Balfour, probably the only intellectual ever to be Prime Minister of Britain. The interesting thing is that although he agrees with it himself he doesn't at all like the idea of having a prime minister who agreed with it. I think this may be a common attituide, so I thought i'd check.


Yep very true i agree 100% on both aspects

Reply 6

Interesting question. In the long run we're all dead, as Keynes said, so what happens to the world after we're gone and buried (and hopefully gone to heaven :smile: ) shouldn't bother us too much, which does mean that what you fought for generally doesn't mean much. However, we have desendants and the rest of the human race after us, so what we do will affect their lives and history, so what we do does matter in the end.

Reply 7

Lord Waddell
Interesting question. In the long run we're all dead, as Keynes said, so what happens to the world after we're gone and buried (and hopefully gone to heaven :smile: ) shouldn't bother us too much, which does mean that what you fought for generally doesn't mean much. However, we have desendants and the rest of the human race after us, so what we do will affect their lives and history, so what we do does matter in the end.


No because like you quoted in the lr we're all dead - therefore doesn't matter (all used to describe humanity btw)

Reply 8

Lord Waddell
However, we have desendants and the rest of the human race after us, so what we do will affect their lives and history, so what we do does matter in the end.


Quite right. We cannot be so self-absorbed that all we consider is our life and times.

Reply 9

MyHappyEnding
No because like you quoted in the lr we're all dead - therefore doesn't matter (all used to describe humanity btw)


But our actions affect those who come after us, so it does matter what we do.

Reply 10

"History repeats itself because nobody listens"

Reply 11

zaf1986
"History repeats itself because nobody listens"


OK...and? :confused:

Reply 12

yawn
OK...and? :confused:


And people who think "Nothing matters much and in the end nothing matters at all " get slapped in the face when it does. :biggrin:

Reply 13

FarnhamBoy

If there is no chance of a solution to a problem, is there any point trying to solve it? Think on that.

How do you find out that there isn't a soluttion except by trying to solve it? Most practical problems- unlike ohilosophical problems- can be broken down into many smaller sub-problems, some of which may well be solvable.

Reply 14

Weejimmie
How do you find out that there isn't a soluttion except by trying to solve it? Most practical problems- unlike ohilosophical problems- can be broken down into many smaller sub-problems, some of which may well be solvable.


Absolutely, jimmie!

It's all a matter of determination imo.

Anything (virtually) is possible if there is the will.

Reply 15

Lord Waddell
But our actions affect those who come after us, so it does matter what we do.


But in the long run there dead you see, so its a circular argument

Reply 16

zaf1986
"History repeats itself because nobody listens"

...and when they do listen a different piece of history repeats itself.

Reply 17

If you truly believed that I think you'd find it difficult becoming PM. Why stand for elections, rally support, etc, if it didn't really matter?

Reply 18

Well, Balfour's uncle was the Marquess of Salisbury- the original "Bob's your uncle."- so called because he put Balfour and all his other relations into the cabinet when he was PM. The idea was that if- as Balfour did- you came from the right sort of family, then you ran the country- and the empire- as a sort of part-time obligation.

Reply 19

Weejimmie
Well, Balfour's uncle was the Marquess of Salisbury- the original "Bob's your uncle."- so called because he put Balfour and all his other relations into the cabinet when he was PM. The idea was that if- as Balfour did- you came from the right sort of family, then you ran the country- and the empire- as a sort of part-time obligation.

They did pretty well, didn't they?