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Using current employer as reference for job application - must I?
Do I have to give my current boss/ whatever as a reference for the job I'm applying for? I love my current job and all the people but I'm ready (and raring!!) to take the next step but I don't want my employer to find out I'm applying for other jobs, especially if I don't get any of them!
So how does this work? Does he have to find out? I know this is a stupid question. I couldn't find any other threads on it but if there is one then feel free to point me there!
So how does this work? Does he have to find out? I know this is a stupid question. I couldn't find any other threads on it but if there is one then feel free to point me there!
Reply 1
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Usually, they don't contact references until a job offer has been made - there are however (especially some local council jobs) which check up on references prior to offers - so you may want to ask HR - if they will be contacted prior to receiving offer. If not, (which is the case most of the time), you can carry on - and when you do get the job offer - you can hand in notice and let the referencing proceed.
Reply 2
You don't have to use your employer unless the application states they want a reference from your most recent employer, so the first choice is don't choose them in the first place.
However, they are likely to give a strong and convincing reference if you have had a good relationship with them. So the second thing is not to name them until the recruiting process actually asks, ie don't offer references in advance of being asked.
It is a fundamental that you ask a referee before putting their name down as a reference though, so you shouldn't really get into a situation where they get asked out of the blue.
Most large 'career' companies understand the difficulties of moving jobs and actually only follow up on references when they are close to making an offer and it's time for you to say something to the old employer anyway.
However, they are likely to give a strong and convincing reference if you have had a good relationship with them. So the second thing is not to name them until the recruiting process actually asks, ie don't offer references in advance of being asked.
It is a fundamental that you ask a referee before putting their name down as a reference though, so you shouldn't really get into a situation where they get asked out of the blue.
Most large 'career' companies understand the difficulties of moving jobs and actually only follow up on references when they are close to making an offer and it's time for you to say something to the old employer anyway.
Reply 3
ma2k5
Usually, they don't contact references until a job offer has been made - there are however (especially some local council jobs) which check up on references prior to offers - so you may want to ask HR - if they will be contacted prior to receiving offer. If not, (which is the case most of the time), you can carry on - and when you do get the job offer - you can hand in notice and let the referencing proceed.
threeportdrift
You don't have to use your employer unless the application states they want a reference from your most recent employer, so the first choice is don't choose them in the first place.
However, they are likely to give a strong and convincing reference if you have had a good relationship with them. So the second thing is not to name them until the recruiting process actually asks, ie don't offer references in advance of being asked.
It is a fundamental that you ask a referee before putting their name down as a reference though, so you shouldn't really get into a situation where they get asked out of the blue.
Most large 'career' companies understand the difficulties of moving jobs and actually only follow up on references when they are close to making an offer and it's time for you to say something to the old employer anyway.
However, they are likely to give a strong and convincing reference if you have had a good relationship with them. So the second thing is not to name them until the recruiting process actually asks, ie don't offer references in advance of being asked.
It is a fundamental that you ask a referee before putting their name down as a reference though, so you shouldn't really get into a situation where they get asked out of the blue.
Most large 'career' companies understand the difficulties of moving jobs and actually only follow up on references when they are close to making an offer and it's time for you to say something to the old employer anyway.
Thank you both very much, that makes a lot of sense
What the application form actually states is:
'If you are shortlisted, we shall contact your referees to obtain a reference. Do you consent to the University contacting your referees at shortlisting stage?'
So I presume I can refrain from adding my current employer? Even though it would actually be the most relevant reference for the job I'm applying for
- but obviously I still have scope to include details of my current job so I guess all is not lost...Reply 4
You don't have to use your current employer.
However, you can also ask if you can not give a referee until/unless you get shortlisted. The new employer should well understand the situation of preferring to speak to your current employer about a reference (which indicates a desire to move on jobwise) once you are short listed, versus just making a simple application. It is often easier to go to your current employer and say 'I've been shortlisted for this, please could I have a reference', than just 'I'm applying for this, etc'
However, you can also ask if you can not give a referee until/unless you get shortlisted. The new employer should well understand the situation of preferring to speak to your current employer about a reference (which indicates a desire to move on jobwise) once you are short listed, versus just making a simple application. It is often easier to go to your current employer and say 'I've been shortlisted for this, please could I have a reference', than just 'I'm applying for this, etc'
Reply 5
Usually they state that they want a reference from your most recent employer, but sometimes they will accept others.
There should be a question asking if they can contact referees before interview, most forms do, so you could tick no for that one. References are usually requested after you have been offered the job though.
There should be a question asking if they can contact referees before interview, most forms do, so you could tick no for that one. References are usually requested after you have been offered the job though.
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