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    Juniors face dole queues


    UK-trained juniors are facing unemployment for the first time as pressure for SHO posts increases.

    A BMA survey due to be published this Saturday is expected to show that a number of junior doctors have been unable to get SHO posts for the coming August rotation.

    The problem could be exacerbated by the introduction of Modernising Medical Careers (MMC), with concerns that thousands of juniors could be forced into trust grade posts during the transition to the new training scheme.

    Although figures from the BMA survey were unavailable when Hospital Doctor went to press, Mr Simon Eccles, chairman of the BMA's junior's committee, said he expected them to be 'startling'.

    The BMA conducted the survey after a straw-poll of PRHOs showed that a third had been unable to get SHO jobs, prompting fears that many may desert the NHS.

    Mr Eccles described the situation as insane. 'What is so daft here is that it costs £100,000 to train these people and we're desperately short of consultants.

    'It seems that the availability of posts has slumped enormously. Either we've had a reduction in numbers of posts or the pool has gone up,' he added.

    Prof Bill Dunlop, chairman of the Joint Consultants Committee (JCC), said he was not aware of juniors facing unemployment, but confirmed there had been a reduction in SHO posts because some were converted to SpR posts to enable trusts to meet the requirements of the Working Time Directive.

    Mr Eccles said: 'We need some sensible clear man-power planning as to how to manage this.' He also said that a system was needed to manage the influx of overseas graduates.

    Dominic Hurndall, MMC programme director, said: 'There's a lot of discussion about that issue [of transition]. Nobody wants anybody who's a current SHO to be disadvantaged.'

    By September, MMC will have a clear vision for specialty training and how best to manage the transition, he added.
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    It's not scary - it's a well known fact. It's not some new thing, the scarsity of training posts has been a problem for some time now, and many junior doctors get stuck in Trust grade jobs with no chance of getting back on to the educational training scheme...

    If anyone actually got into medical school without appreciating the real situation, that would be scary...
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    Good point but then why has the media previously pumped out all this rubbish about the shortage of doctors??!!

    Also why is the Government expanding the number of places at medical school and opened five new medical schools with more on the horizon???!!!!!

    And the GMC importing record numbers of overseas doctors!

    Is this all part of one big conspiracy.
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    (Original post by mdwannabee)
    Good point but then why has the media previously pumped out all this rubbish about the shortage of doctors??!!

    Also why is the Government expanding the number of places at medical school and opened five new medical schools with more on the horizon???!!!!!

    And the GMC importing record numbers of overseas doctors!

    Is this all part of one big conspiracy.

    Because there is a shortage of doctors per capita, and are huge waiting lists (and waiting list waiting lists...)

    Doesn't mean that there are jobs going spare though...

    What the nation needs in terms of numbers of qualified medics and what the government will pay for are too totally unrelated entities...
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    Agreed but then why does the Government want to fund more places at medical school and open more medical schools if there is no job at the end of it?!

    Surely this is short sighted thinking on their part. Why bother wasting the money on all these new medical seats if there is no job at the end of it?!

    I guess the Govt does a lot of strange things but this issue has become a bit of national disgrace. Maybe that will force them into some action.

    It is better to close med schools rather than lead people up the garden path with 25k of debt and no job at the end of it.
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    (Original post by mdwannabee)
    Agreed but then why does the Government want to fund more places at medical school and open more medical schools if there is no job at the end of it?!
    There is no real lack of jobs as such - there's a lack of training posts.

    There are two types of position - a training post, which allows proper professional progression, and then there are 'Trust' posts, which do not.

    The jobs are there, and many people happily take Trust posts, but it can be very difficult to get back into a training post if and when you get bored of your job...
 
 
 
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