(Original post by peperharow)
wow long posts on this thread !
well i did CCF (marines) for two or three years and got bored with it so then jumped straight into D.ofE. Gold since you don't have to do the first two (bronze,silver) to do it - just need to be 17. D of E is very impressive on the UCAS form, but you want to be able to say your doing/plan to do the gold as the others aren't considered hugely special.
with the CCF, it's again impressive if you rise up the ranks in your school and become lance-corporal, NCO etc but you want to stand out if you can.
just PM me if you want any advice
thanks for your advice.
I think I might do similar to you, join the CCF now and take up D of E Gold when I'm 17 if I still want to do it.
oh and smeets and kengiskahn carry on with your discussion - it looks very interesting and I will get round to read it all at some point
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- Thread Starter
- 29-07-2005 20:48
- 29-07-2005 21:47
Correction please. I only ever once fired blanks in the field because I was busy giving commands/directions/shouting/making sure that orders were being carried out. That was when I was CCF Sergeant. Once I became one of the 2I/C of the CCF I couldn't really go on camps/weekends any more due to 6th form duties, and my role was mainly ceremonial (sounds well posh when said like that ). I have fired plenty of rounds in the shooting ranges, and even went to Bisley (not because I was any good, but for numbers...). I have stripped and cleaned the Cadet SA80 more times than I can remember whilst teaching cadets about it, but never much fired it.
No, you're right about the artillery. They blow stuff up and kill people. I wouldn't use one to dig up my carrots either or babysit any kids I may/may not have. They have to be killing machines. The army has to kill and destroy occasionally to attain whatever it's after I suppose. But I wouldn't say that any army soldier or officer would glorify killing with them - the days of glorifying war (e.g. "cannon to the left, cannon to the right" - "Charge of the Light Brigade; "Your country needs YOU!" - Kitchener Poster) are well and truly over. So the CCF doesn't glorify war/killing/destruction either.
Yeah, I went to Merchy. Talked about it in an other thread - and I knew from there you went to Stew Mel. You know what we call you guys? - "Smelly Melville". Hahahaha, so immature. *runs away with tounge out going "nah nahni nahnah"*
And wow! Is the CCF Marines anything like the hardcore real stuff? Do you go "yomping" over Dartmore with 60kgs on you back for 30 miles without breaking into a sweat? We only have an Army CCF section, our school's pupil size is otherwise too small to have Navy (Marines), or RAF.
- 29-07-2005 22:18
any one tell me what CCF means?
oh by the way i nearly finshed silver and am halfway through gold! doing my a-levels at the moment
- 29-07-2005 22:30
Combined Cadet Force. Made up of Army, Navy (Marines) and RAF sections. Different to "pure" youth forces (eg. ATC) because of this, and because it focuses on leadership/management and officer developement rather than soldier developement.
- 30-07-2005 01:18
Haha, "Smelly Melville". Our non-boarding and (therefore) positively hetrosexual outlook never really gave light to such nick names. Or if there were any I've never heard them. I'll make enquiries after the summer holidays. I don't really care much for you merchy guys, steeling out MES women and all that =P Though there are some of them you are more than welcome to....
I seem to remember a particular rugby game where there were an "unusually high" number of oriental guys on your team. From then on you were known as having GM (genetically modified) imported players!
Remind me, have you JUST left?
What exactly is "marines" CCF?
- 30-07-2005 20:48
MES? What's that???
I never really bothered much hating other Edinburgh private schools. Only really when we played you guys, Edinburgh Academy, Fettes ("Fatties"), George Watsons, Heriots etc. I reciprocate the comment about not really caring much for you Stew Mel guys.
The "unusually high" number of chinese blokes on one of our teams - hmmm. That might be the team which had ONE chinese bloke on it, but he was so fast he was everywhere at the same time. You got bamboozled...
I have JUST left Merchy this year... and am hopefully starting uni this year.
Marines in CCF - I've never come across one in any school, but there are some units out there. It's part of the Navy, as the Marines are part of the Navy, and NOT the Army. Common misconception.
- 30-07-2005 21:49
Lol - "fettes" ---> "fatties". Clever, very clever. I think Fettes is a country estate school trapped in a "small" city plot. I love the way it's right next to Broughton HS. Have you seen the (new?) Westwoods sports thing they have? It's some top quality shizzle.
"MES" = Mary Erskine (School), don't tell me you didn't know anyone from there I believe the Vice Principle's (hot) daughter (MES student) is banging someone from Merchi. Thiefs!
If you've just left Merchy then you may well know the Smelly Melville's as Ross Samson, Adrian Duncan, Lewis Calder?
The only Merchi guy I "know" is someone with blone hair called Patrik. In the year bellow you (if you left after s6) who used to go to SMC himself.
- 30-07-2005 22:04
Smeets, I do so believe you are being sarcastic. Might be the lowest form of wit, but the funniest
Paddy Clarke (ha ha?) is I think the guy you mean. We also have a Patrick Tobin in the LVI.
I can't say I've ever had the dubious pleasure of meeting said Mssrs. Samson, Duncan and Calder. Sound like 1st XV players to me. I never realised that your vice-Principal's daughter is hot. The LVI (about to be UVI) aren't exactly a great lot here at Merchy though. Here a yeargroup is defined by the Lower Sixth play they perform. The year before us was one written by a guy in the Lower Sixth (they were pretty imaginative - about some guy being bullied who had a ghost friend; strange stuff); our year did a comedy about life at Merchy and in private school. We had "Random Dave" during a dance number who just strolled on to the stage, with a golf club, hit an imaginary ball to the back of the theater, and strolled off again. COMPLETELY unconnected with ANYTHING in the play. Just random. I almost **** myself laughing in the wings. Btw, the play was a complete pisstake of private school life, based on "Robin Hood and the Babes in the Wood" - From the Makers of "Downstream Changes in the Colinton Burn - a GCSE Project"... . We even had a pakistani bloke in our year who wore a white T-Shirt with "Token Ethnic Minority" on it...
And this year's Lower Sixth did a play called "Boy Band". You get the picture.
- 30-07-2005 22:22
Haha - I love it when members of minority groups act that way. We have like 3 different school plays a year - one for first to third years, one for fourth to sixth year and another because some teacher thinks he's a good director. The only thing like that we, as a yeargroup, get to do is "The Sixth Form Review" which is a series of in jokes about our school life. Basically a quarter of the yeargroup do songs and impersinations of members of staff. Hardly anyone goes to watch as it's after school at the end of term (when the last thing you wanna do is spend even more time at school) and you ahve to pay! Gee. How many people are there in each yeargroup at the Castle? By the by, do you actually have a castle? (no, I'm not trying to be funny)... our school wasn't founded by some guy called "melville", for instance.
Do you know the vice principal's daughter of whom i speak? Great guess about those guys, ross samson captained this year's first XV, Lewis is next year's captain and Adrian will be vice (as well as head boy....). They're in New Zeland as we speak on some kind of rugby tour. It may well be "Paddy Clarke" i'm thinking of, if he has quite a round head, blonde air, quite skinny and used to be quite small. It doesn't matter, he doesn't have the first duck who I am. I can't believe you have a Patrick Tobin - our old principal had that name!!
- 30-07-2005 22:30
Yep, Paddy Clarke. Skinny and blonde. And in the yeargroup's "rock band" (read - microphone on too loud, can't hear the genuinely decent drumming and strumming due to lead singer, who thinks he's the bee's knees, bellowing out crud that nobody understands). He plays the guitar. Quite well, too. Not too clever though.
Merchiston Castle is called castle because of the Colinton Castle is situated in the grounds. Ruins, and we're not allowed in. Barriers and everything. Strange, actually, I've been there for 8 years, and never explored/found out much about the place that actually gives Merchy its name. A yeargroup on average is about 60 here.
Wow. NZ. Our Cricket 1st XI is out in Barbados too right now. Wonder were Fettes are? I hope they're in the Antarctic on a Curling Tour or something hilarious like that . Oh how I hate Fettes.
(Original post by GengisKahn)
- 30-07-2005 22:44
Wonder were Fettes are? I hope they're in the Antarctic on a Curling Tour or something hilarious like that . Oh how I hate Fettes.
I expect they're busy being the pioneers of golfing tours to eastern Europe.
Tis pretty gay (I know I shouldn't use such coloquialisms on here) of them not to let you into the castle. Though what can you expect from an all boys boarding school? =P On that note, what did you do if you wanted to bang your (stolen from mary erskine) girlfriend? Or go to a party or something? Our boarders just have to get their (day pupil) friend's mum to sign a slip saying they're going to spend the night with them, then the boarder is free, so it wasn't so bad for them. There was some trully slanderous comments a coupla months ago when one of smc's biggest party animals said "F'ing hell, Merchy bring their minibus everywhere, even to parties!"... true?
There's supposedly a big ass tunnel under our school but the foolish management wont let us see. Before I leave my ambition is to explore it, by digging if need be, and then... dunno. Maybe take a photo or buy a tee shirt if any are on sale.
I know a girl from mes (stolen on many occasions) who used to love paddy. Lol, coincidentally she's really clever and **** at musak.
- 30-07-2005 23:06
If I wanted to bang my (stolen) MES girlfriend I would ask her to meet me in a club at a certain time. UVI formers can get late leaver on Sat. evenings, as long as they come back to school and not stay out. lol, I never realised the Merchy bus went everywhere. Have you seen it? Blue, with "Merchy" on the side? It is SO embarrasing to drive around in that bus. Esp. in Edinburgh, where everyone knows everyone.
Do you guys think that Merchy, being the only all-boys school in Scotland, is actually homosexual? We take the piss out of ourselves actually - excerpts from this year's yearbook: "7 years at Merchy and still straight", "8 years at all-boys school and not homosexual"... ) ... I wouldn't know how many gays there actually are in the school (statistically loads), but even so, no more than would be at MES, if not less due to smaller pupil population size.
I never realised there was a tunnel under your school. I've never actually been on the MES hallowed turf, only at your Rugby pitches. Apart from your rubbish changing rooms they're pretty good... although the sand on them sometimes hurts like a be-atch after...
I remember being told that some MES guys beat up a group of drunk Merchy "lads" after a night out. Nice one! One of the guys then (dark, skinny, egoistical, actually on the candidate list for being *truly* homosexual according to everyone in our year...) I really loathed. It was just annoying that I was a prefect in the same house as he was... gah. You guys have prefects?
It has just occurred to me that I might hate Fettes due to the fact that the Right Hon. Tony Blair MP went there. Or, on second thoughts, the HORRIBLE pink (reddish/purple) and brown striped rugby top they wear; makes me want to puke. Or, on third thoughts, how non-Edinburgh people seem to think that Fettes is the only private school in Edinburgh. Not true.
It looks like this CCF vs. D of E has been well and truly highjacked...
- 30-07-2005 23:35
You should take “tunnel” to mean “extensive underground (“basement”) network of corridors that no one has used for 50 years. The kind of thing alqueda would die to have in the Afghanistan mountains. Wouldn’t want to mislead you =P
By the by, “MES” = the all girls schools with which we’re twinned, “SMC” = the boys school. I assume you didn’t mean you play rugby against girls and get beaten up by them also =P
I’ve seen THE minibus, lol. Though I assume there’s more than one as: We have two red ones with “ESMGC” and a badge on the side. The old ones had the schools name plastered along the side of the bus from the bonnet to the back door. Luckly we also have a plain white one, of the transit variety, which is quite inconspicuous. The school looked into getting a coach (handy for going to those really big parties, eh) but there were too many complications. Talk about pretentious.
I dunno about beating you mo fo’s up, we normally have too many neds to contend with. Ah, the ardures of being a private school kid in Edinburgh these days. And then there’s st georges. They’re a recipe for disaster. You MUST know mel Mitchell, mmmyes?
We do indeed have a prefect system. I have quite strong feelings about it. There’s a head boy and 5 deputies (I was interviewed to be one, didn’t get given one, consequently very bitter and twisted) who automatically get given red blazers. Basically THEY get to do whatever they want. Ever since the current principal – who incidentally sends his son to Fettes (and supports hibs, if that’s another reason for you to hate him) – arrived (which was 5 years ago) he quickly set about making ALL sixth formers (120 of us) prefects. Previously you had to be elected by staff and pupils. Prefects do tonnes of keeck duties like patrolling corridors.
I wouldn’t worry about us lot thinking you’re a bummer. I don’t think people honestly think you guys are (made) gay, but it wont ever stop us ****ging you about it. I personally believe group ******* and weed smoking weren’t uncommon for you though. “Put that in your blunt and smoke it” lol.
- 31-07-2005 20:15
Our prefect system is really good. Captain of School and deputies are appointed by headman, although next year the deputies have been done away with as they never did anything ... I was just a normal prefect. Also appointed by housemasters, and you live in their duty-house. Actually real good. We had the 13/14 year olds. Old enough to not be that immature, but too young to give you **** really.
I do not know Mel Mitchell, sorry. I keep on forgetting the names of St. G's girls that I do know (ie. I don't know them all that well lol). I am occasionally embarassed that Merchy was a brother school to them. We prefered St. Ms anyway.
If MES did have girl's rugby team then they would probably have a greater chance at beating us than SMC... hehehe. *runs away cackling* hehehe ...
*comes back, after looking at starving ethiopian children - sobered up*
Yeah, Neds in Edinburgh are a pain. Wester Hailes, anyone? In Glasgow though they are meant to be a lot worse. Horrible city. So bleedin' ugly.
We had a guy in our year who left a few years ago, called Angus Blackford. He supported Hibs, but the really funny thing was that he had one ball bigger than the other, and kept on having to have ops done on it - source of great hilarity. We got told that he had a big ball - not that anyone ever saw it. It just thought of him when you mentioned Hibs.
If it confirms our heterosexuality for you: there was a porn bust - affectionately known as the infamous "porn raid on the dirty five" - in which one longstanding chinese blackmarket bloke was expelled and four suspended. Everyone's rooms were checked and pc/laptops too. I destroyed my porn cds, I was kacking it. Turns out my room was never checked by staff (because I was seen as clean and *responsible*(don't know how the hell they thought that)), and later in the year I was kicking as opposed to kacking myself for destroying those cds. Lets just say that being in a boys school does make you wish it was co-ed sometimes
Driving in those blue minibuses always makes me lower myself into the seat even more. The only person truly happy to be in it and be seen in it would be the headman. I mean, would I drive around in a car which said my address on it - especially if people dislike the address in the first place? I would not.
- 31-07-2005 22:51
Ha ha ha ha - a porn bust. I would hate to surrender my laptop and have someone look through it (as a matter of principle). How is the "no porn rule" worded in the school rules?
HAHA - I just remember a funny story. In the last summer holidays there was a geography trip to Spain for people in the year bellow me. On the trip they had to share rooms, as you do on school trips. The guys in one of the rooms thought it would be "funny" (or I think thats what they thought) to play a trick on one of the guys who was also sharing a room with them. So one at a time the practical jokers went into the hotel room in question, and each jizzed on the victims bed. Once everyone was finished doing the deed the guy came back and they told him it was something like hair gel (I'm not really sure about this part of the tale). Anyway, somehow, the poor guy found out and a few people were suspended.
I quite like the "black market" idea. The last time there was one at our school was in primary seven when sherbit straws were banned. One of the guys who boards is a bit of a business man, and managed to get two pallet loads of mobile phones delivered to the boarding house so he could sell them on eBay... I've yet to be told how he worked it. MES, on the other hand, have a "healthy eating policy" (to try and make the girls hotter, I believe) so if you ever find yourself there with a can of juice, you're a potentially very rich man.
I dunno about your minibuses but outs had reall unconfortable seats. I think they were supplied by "Red Kite" or something. Most of the teachers are **** at driving them, which helps not one bit. Luckily for us "ESMGC" isn't too much of a give away as to our true identity! That said, its not hard for someone to peer in the window and see 15 people in the imfamous school uniform.
Was there a guy in your year called (andrew?) wood? He's ex-SMC. The crazy thing is, his mum works at the school (=====fee discount) and his wee brother goes there too.
- 01-08-2005 09:30
The "no porn rule" is worded something flashy along the lines of "indecent exposure and illegal possession" etc - when I first read it I thought "what the hell???"
The chinese bloke was truly blackmarket. Fake Oakley, chinese laptops, PORN of course, various illegal things as well (not the porn though). I just hope that no staff ever find out the extent to which he took his profiteering. But marketing in a boarding school is a sound idea, although the staff did try their utmost to prove that he was doing it - but the guy was really clever and boosted the school though. Hehe.
His yearbook profile:
Achievements: Being the biggest blackmarket man in Merchy, never getting caught...
Best Moment: ...getting caught
WOODY!!! Yeah, we had the one and only Andrew Wood here... sound guy. Decided he didn't want any ASBOs in the first place and apparently seriously toned up on the maturity scale. He did quite well in his Highers, I believe. Sound bloke if ever there was one. Great rugby player: 1st XV - flanker, same position as me, although 2 teams higher up. Although he did get the end of year "most likely to drop out of university" award. Got him all annoyed.
Why, did you know him well?
- 01-08-2005 13:41
Sadly I only knew Woody by name, and spoke to him only once, at a party, before he made the switch over to the dark side of schooling. I still don't fully understand why (.... he moved, not why he spoke to me). He'd definitely have been a king pin in his yeargroup had he stayed. 1st XV for sure - he was well connected at the rugger croud.
Speaking of rugby, why was it you guys always had to have your games on a week day? My theory is that because you were a boarding school peoples' parents couldn't come along to watch, therefore no support. So you decided to play games during the week, when the parents of guys at other (day) schools would be at work of whatever, so they'd have no support either. Sounds pretty plausible to me.
My history teacher (Bagnall, before your time I suspect) claims to have started his teaching career at merchy, not leaving the school campus once during his first two months. His one and only, though sparingly used, come back to cries of "thats unfair you can't make us do that" is "look guys *pause* if you were at merchiston the rules would be much tougher".
Would you send your kids to merchy / all boys (boarding) school?
- 01-08-2005 20:28
We played you on weekdays because we play others on Saturday. Simple. I'm really curious to know if I ever played a team with you in it. Guess I'll never know.
I remember a Bagnall being mentioned once or twice, but I had no clue that rules at Merchiston were tough. I suppose I couldn't really compare to anything. But it was pretty stringent, and deadlines were met, or you were punished. He's right, there is often no need to leave the school campus at all for months at a time. Not that that means we're anti-social or anything, but the campus is *huge* and friends, entertainment, work, food, your home, was all there anyway, so why go? Booze and girls, I suspect
I would definately send my son to Merchy. I get 10% off! Nah, but the school, regardless of the homo stereotype, is a *brilliant* place to be, great campus, teachers, in one of the best cities in the world, good mates - and it really does help not having to "show off" or "keep your status" with regards to womankind when it comes to academic grades. I made really really really good friends there. I would go back myself if I could. That is one of the biggest compliments I could pay Merchy.
- 02-08-2005 04:49
Is that 10% a discount for being an FP, or are you special? =P There's no such FP discount for us; I think I'll devote my sixth year to campaigning for one. The only discount "the college" offer is for having three, or more, kids at the school SIMOULTANIOUSLY, and you get a 25% reduction in the eldest dudes fees.. Gee. There's a random £300 deficit between the boarding costs of a primary 6 and a senior school pupil. Trully poor maths, I say.
- 02-08-2005 09:43
I think 10% off the school fees if you're a merchistonian (which I am). Which definately gives me an advantage over other private schools. But, of course, that depends on if I have a boy, and enough money in the first place. I'm not special.
Merchy has that as well. The reduction of costs when children are there at the same time. The more, the better, I think. Something like 20% off the eldest child.
Btw, if you had the chance, would you go to Stew Mel again (after you left, of course)? Merchy was immense.