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    (Original post by technik)
    the progression of the posts suggests that you were.
    I apologise for ambiguity
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    So much for that
    Perhaps being well read on sarcasm might work?
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    (Original post by xx_ambellina_xx)
    I apologise for ambiguity
    feel free to clarify what you were really referring to
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    [QUOTE=HearTheThunder]Apology considered.

    Not a being fan of sarcasm?

    'neither are you blah, blah...'



    You forgot to include my use of the word 'illegal'. And you criticise me for taking you out of context
    Explain

    You seem to be making non-smokers the second class citizens once again
    Your taking the freedom of ALL away. If one group suffers, whose next?
    Its not so much the right to smoke, its the right to run your business as you see fit.
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    (Original post by technik)
    feel free to clarify what you were really referring to
    It was a general comment in relation to the NHS. As in, the present system is better than none, which is what has been advocated by some in the thread.
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    ive read a handful of books, including some roald dahl.

    i think the thrust of the posts, objectivism, was that you need to post opinions of your own that show your own thought and reasoning. not just what someone else wrote in some book.
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    Perhaps being well read on sarcasm might work?
    Im not so sad as to buy books on it. And it is the lowest form of wit.
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    (Original post by technik)
    ive read a handful of books, including some roald dahl.

    i think the thrust of the posts, objectivism, was that you need to post opinions of your own that show your own thought and reasoning. not just what someone else wrote in some book.

    That what im doing, Mill never wrote about smoking i can assure you. Im taking an ideolgy i agree with and adapting it to this situation. What wrong with that?
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    Does that make it moral?
    Smoking inside public buildings in my opinion is immoral. So a ban on such practices would be moral.

    Whether or not it is moral is very much a subjective issues...

    I find the risks posed unacceptable, and damaging to the health of much of society, and action should be taken to stop this menace.

    Do you think ones right to smoke is more important than the health risks posed:
    The research, carried out by expert on second hand smoke James Repace, reveals that in the UK around 900 office workers, 165 bar workers and 145 manufacturing workers die each year as a direct result of breathing in other people's tobacco smoke at work.
    I imagine many Conservatives would value life more than yourself, and many would value life above the very small change in th rights of businesses.
    Life should not be sacrificed for a few quid, get your priorities right...
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    That what im doing, Mill never wrote about smoking i can assure you. Im taking an ideolgy i agree with and adapting it to this situation. What wrong with that?
    Hmm.

    The way I see it, it goes beyond adaptation.
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    Im not so sad as to buy books on it. And it is the lowest form of wit.
    :rofl: Go on, tell me who you quoted about it being the lowest form of wit.

    Anyway, I must go now - I'm going out tomorrow and need sleep. I shall return tomorrow to continue this...
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    (Original post by xx_ambellina_xx)
    It was a general comment in relation to the NHS. As in, the present system is better than none, which is what has been advocated by some in the thread.
    still suggests the "none" was in reference to your previous comment about health insurance cover in america leaving people out.

    as for the NHS...its a post war socialist relic thats been crumbling from the day it was thought up. it needs radical overhaul, or consigned to history entirely.
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    (Original post by xx_ambellina_xx)
    But then, if an employee of a restaurant dies of lung cancer due to passive smoking, is it not a similar, albeit less extreme, situation?
    No they choose to work there, they did not choose to be murdered
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    No they choose to work there, they did not choose to be murdered
    Essentially, it boils down to one and the same.
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    (Original post by HearTheThunder)
    :rofl: Go on, tell me who you quoted about it being the lowest form of wit.

    Anyway, I must go now - I'm going out tomorrow and need sleep. I shall return tomorrow to continue this...
    Where you going? To look for a none smoking restaurant to spend your EMA money?
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    Where you going? To look for a none smoking restaurant to spend your EMA money?
    not at this time of the morning...
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    (Original post by xx_ambellina_xx)
    Essentially, it boils down to one and the same.
    Id love to know how.
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    not at this time of the morning...
    Read his post - 'im going out tommorrow'
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    Id love to know how.
    they choose to work there, they die because they work there. therefore, by your reckoning, they choose to die.
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    Where you going? To look for a none smoking restaurant to spend your EMA money?
    Please don't be so pathetic to launch that kind of attack on me. Who the hell do you think you are? I'm not even recieving any EMA money and I wouldn't spend it in a restaurant. I don't know what kind of inflated ego you have to assume that I would do that and quite frankly I think you're being pathetically childish. I mean excuse me sorry if I want to actually take a break from being immersed in your silly personal attacks and ridiculous analogies but DONT YOU DARE MAKE assumptions like that again.
 
 
 
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