MA (Cantab)?

Hmm - getting a bit ahead of myself (needing AAA in Maths, Physics, Chemistry and a 2 in STEP 1 for Engineering at Peterhouse in 2005... I'm hopeful about this though) BUT:

Engineers take their Finals at the end of the third year, which gets you the 1st 2nd 3rd etc right? Then you take the fourth (pass/fail) year for the MEng.

1. Do you graduate with a BA initially?
2. After final graduation and your time can you be MA (Cantab) MEng (Cantab)?
3. Do you get your BA after the end of the third year and are thus a graduate (officially) for your fourth?
4. Is it the same for Nat.Sci.s etc?

Reply 5

I can't answer your questions but I can say STEP for engineering? poor bunny :frown:

I'm sorry!

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musicbloke

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Steveee

Hmm - getting a bit ahead of myself (needing AAA in Maths, Physics, Chemistry and a 2 in STEP 1 for Engineering at Peterhouse in 2005... I'm hopeful about this though) BUT:

Engineers take their Finals at the end of the third year, which gets you the 1st 2nd 3rd etc right? Then you take the fourth (pass/fail) year for the MEng.

1. Do you graduate with a BA initially?
2. After final graduation and your time can you be MA (Cantab) MEng (Cantab)?
3. Do you get your BA after the end of the third year and are thus a graduate (officially) for your fourth?
4. Is it the same for Nat.Sci.s etc?

Ok, after three years you are officially a grad but you don't graduate unless you intend on leaving with a BA which is pretty useless if you intend on becoming an engineer. Your fourth year is marked as either pass, merit, or distinction (taken from you lowest grade - either your project or your exams). Being a grad in your fourth year means you can wear a BA status gown and use the MCR in the college. That's about it. With Natscis they aren't technically grads because regardless of the fact that they are getting MScs they are doing a part III of tripos (undergrad course).

MB

Reply 7

Yes - damn my school for not telling me that Double maths would be helpful...

And I did Further AS this year too so that cambridge would think I was hard working or whatever. Thankfully that's not in my offer as I learnt P4, M4 and M3 the day before each exam. I can't WAIT for my results :biggrin:

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Reply 8

The further will help you when you're here mate, I've seen the engineer's maths. It's very ... mathsy! Lots borrowed from Maths tripos.

Reply 9

musicbloke

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homoterror

The further will help you when you're here mate, I've seen the engineer's maths. It's very ... mathsy! Lots borrowed from Maths tripos.

I've heard the fluids stuff is very scary

MB

Reply 10

To be honest though, apart from two Differential Equations methods (forget Euler's - that's not a method!) and complex numbers (which I think is common sense actually) I haven't learnt anything in Further AS. Matrices was quite ok (though I screwed the question in the exam... :biggrin:

).

STEP was difficult, but obviously I only took STEP1, so I didn't learn any more for it. I think Peterhouse's logic is: if I can get a 2 in STEP1 then I should be able to pick up Engineer's Maths quick enough to not be at a huge disadvantage. Still - Damn not doing double. I'm not confident about the chemistry that I did rather than double maths. bah

EDIT: and thanks or the BA etc info MB.

Reply 11

musicboy

I've heard the fluids stuff is very scary

MB

such stuff is vector calculus and it's the most terrifying thing i've ever seen in my life.

Reply 12

Steveee

To be honest though, apart from two Differential Equations methods (forget Euler's - that's not a method!) and complex numbers (which I think is common sense actually) I haven't learnt anything in Further AS. Matrices was quite ok (though I screwed the question in the exam... :biggrin:

).

yeah you're gonna be doing a whole bunch of matrices though, lots of diagonalising them!

Reply 13

hah - vector calculus... I just made a very bad job of doing some of that today in my step exam. Though it was only a simple function... what, um r = sin2ti + 2costj or something... well maybe harder than that. Actually I quite liked that question, though I got an enormous number of answers for what values of t were good for what...

Is that vector calculus (I mean differentiating that finding maximum r etc?)

Reply 14

JaF

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homoterror

The further will help you when you're here mate, I've seen the engineer's maths. It's very ... mathsy! Lots borrowed from Maths tripos.

[sarcasm]I can't wait[/sarcasm]

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Steveee

hah - vector calculus... I just made a very bad job of doing some of that today in my step exam. Though it was only a simple function... what, um r = sin2ti + 2costj or something... well maybe harder than that. Actually I quite liked that question, though I got an enormous number of answers for what values of t were good for what...

Is that vector calculus (I mean differentiating that finding maximum r etc?)

sort of, it's looking at small changes in vectors, so i think it counts as vector calc! but the things I saw the engineers studying were just some basic operators, like grad, curl, div, and some theorems, as well as the laplacian. then I think they did some integral theorems. this was on a very pure course they seemed to be doing though. I imagine in a fluid dynamics course you'd have to lots more integral theorems.

of course you'll be having lectures and supervisions on this so there's no need to worry about it.

Reply 16

Oh of course I won't worry. Worrying's all reserved for finding out what's in that brown envelope sitting on the table in the school dining room on August the 18th.

homoterror: for someone that finds looking at engineer's maths pretty freaked, and yet still knows what it's about... what course do you do?

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