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    I do realise that there may be perhaps several threads about Nazi ideas et al but I would like to dedicate this one on the Nazi 'Bible'.

    I am currently reading Mein Kampf. It is one of the worst books I have ever read. I have never before in my life read the works of a more bombastic hypocrite. He is clearly trying to impress the readers with his motley collection of vocabulary and his complex sentences. However, he has shot himself in the foot as many times these 3-4 line sentences make hardly any sense at all. He is trying to build the image that he is part of the ' intelligentsia' which he so often refers to. Hitler attempts to use a variety of 'ugly' metaphors. The reason why I call them ugly is that he never fails to use a metaphor to describe the things he hates most in the world such as Jews, 'Negros' as he loves to call them, physically and mentally disabled, Marxists, Social Democrats etc...I have never met a person with a longer list of elements that he hates about the society he lives in.
    His views anger me, not because he wrote them, but because many believed in them. Otherwise I would have simply laughed at them. I fail to understand why he was not locked up for good as soon as he published this book. Such a person belongs only in a mental clinic.
    I also would like to criticise the wiser men who lived at the time. This book should have been enough evidence to Chamberlain that such a man was not someone to be trusted. He should have known appeasement would not have worked. True, one of the interpretations of appeasement is 'playing for time', however the book clearly outlines how blood thirsty this demagogue was. He wanted war. In fact he LIVED for war. He himself states:
    (Original post by Adolf Hitler)
    From then on (after reading 'Eines Volksausgabe des deutsch-franzosichen Krieges von 1870-71' which is about the German victory over the French in the Franco-German war of 1870-71) I became more and more enthusiastic about everything that was in anyway connected with war...
    This is quoted from the 4th page of Mein Kampf. I wonder why the Allies criticised Hitler for the Anschluss. It was simply one of his main aims in life. It was obvious that as long as he remained in power the Anschluss will take place. This is outlined in the 2nd paragraph of Mein Kampf.
    So why did such a tyrant get in power? That is an entirely new thread. I just want to concentrate on the significance of the book. I believe that people did not understand the book well enough to see his aims clearly. It makes me irate when I think about the average German reading this pathetic attempt by a tyrant who did not even finish the Realschule to sound more intelligent and failing to comprehend the bombastic language and sentence formations. This German does not wish to look like an idiot therefore he nods his head at everything Hitler says. True, there were many other Germans with similar views however, not that many were as extremist as Hitler. I am certain that the majority of the German masses did not think of the 'Negroes' as 'born half-apes'.
    Hitler lies in nearly ever page of the book. I am extremely happy that the translator was able to add a footnote explaining what the actual truth about Hitler's life was. It is amazing how he tries to hide facts and use complicated words and metaphors in attempt to make something look far more glorifying. than it is.
    I also mentioned that he was a hypocrite. I just read a page which extremely irritated me. I am referring to Hitler saying that it is of extreme importance to be discrete. He used the example of a school child telling on his classmate. He called this treason and claimed it was one of the reasons why Germany lost the war. How can he say that when in actual fact once the Nazis got into power they encouraged children to tell on their parents and teachers if they made negative comments on the Nazi government.
    This book is clearly crammed with lies and deceit and evil ideas.
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    Virtually unreadable.
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    The book or my thread?
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    Mmm pretty much agree, very heavy-going and repetitive. I read (or mainly didn't read) it in English, and the translator had evidently tried to replicate the style you mention, I had assumed it was a period, or a German thing.

    I did find it amusing though how dainty and fearful this historic giant seemed. His paranoia about 'bow-legged Jewish *******s' seducing the blondest aryan beauties with their 'oriental sophistication' was quite touching in a way. We'd all be more friendly if we had more good shags I suppose.

    Not recommended as literature or philosophy, but if you like serial killer biogs or nazism, you might consider this for the summer.

    Amazon customers who bought 'Mein Kampf' also bought
    'Prince Harry's favourite marching songs'
    'Jews are from Mars, Aryans are from Venus'
    'The AA Atlas of Europe'
    and
    'Vegetarianism for Dummies'
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    Amazon customers who bought 'Mein Kampf' also bought
    'Prince Harry's favourite marching songs'
    'Jews are from Mars, Aryans are from Venus'
    'The AA Atlas of Europe'
    and
    'Vegetarianism for Dummies'
    lol...figures.

    TBH I nearly gave up on this book...several times. But I felt it was more like a challenge to finish it than to understand it. I am mainly reading it now to enhance my vocabulary. And that's about the only useful thing I could think of doing with it.
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    (Original post by Death)
    The book or my thread?
    The book. Appalling.
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    I couldn't read the thread because I had the song "Mr Boombastic" by Shaggy stuck in my head. But I'll take your word for it.
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    It is a very bad book of course. But i've read equally absurd things before, such as this:



    this is the system of the future. People will be more like machines. There will be less emotion. Plus, you will not select what an individual should be when they are about to go and study in university. You will plan this before they are born. You should read "A brave new world". There will be quotas in children as well. Birth control will have to be improved. The government will know exactly how many children will be born, how many will have to become lawyers and how many steel workers. Therefore it will be like destiny. Your future career is already known. Therefore this can also be used to improve education, as you will be placed in special schools from day 1. This is an improvement I have just thought about that could be added onto the communist system in teh future.
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    "Issues please. Not personal attacks"
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    (Original post by Death)
    "Issues please. Not personal attacks"
    Couldn't agree more, thus i never gave a name away and said the comments were absurd not the person who wrote them.
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    (Original post by Death)
    "Issues please. Not personal attacks"
    Hmmm, im going to let it go because although he is referring to a past quote (of yourself i assume) as absurd, he is illustrating a point that we can all come out with some non-conformist/revolutionary ideas/visions from time to time, as did Hitler in Mein Kampf...
    soz dude.
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    I got through about 20 pages of it before getting so bored I couldn't go on. Massive letdown, and it didn't make all that much sense!
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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    I got through about 20 pages of it before getting so bored I couldn't go on. Massive letdown, and it didn't make all that much sense!
    I don't know too many Germans who have read it either - so you're not alone.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    I don't know too many Germans who have read it either - so you're not alone.
    It should be put on the school curriculum in Germany IMO.
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    I'd be interested in reading it. I heard that who gets to take it out of libraries is controlled though?
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    I think that in Germany of the 1930s it was considered essential to have one in order to avoid being put on the Gestapo's files as an enemy to National Socialism. I doubt that many Germans would have read it or understood it though. Its probably unreadable to most nowadays.
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    (Original post by foolfarian)
    Hmmm, im going to let it go because although he is referring to a past quote (of yourself i assume) as absurd, he is illustrating a point that we can all come out with some non-conformist/revolutionary ideas/visions from time to time, as did Hitler in Mein Kampf...
    soz dude.
    If you read our previous debate I doubt you would think that he was trying to make a point with that. His attitude is evidently appalling.
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    (Original post by thefish_uk)
    I'd be interested in reading it. I heard that who gets to take it out of libraries is controlled though?
    Well I heard something similar (actually I heard it in the film Se7en). Apparently the authorities keep special records of the people who borrow the book mainly because of the neo-nazis.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Hmmm, im going to let it go because although he is referring to a past quote (of yourself i assume) as absurd, he is illustrating a point that we can all come out with some non-conformist/revolutionary ideas/visions from time to time, as did Hitler in Mein Kampf...
    soz dude.

    Good to see common sense prevails
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    (Original post by Death)
    If you read our previous debate I doubt you would think that he was trying to make a point with that. His attitude is evidently appalling.

    Attack my beliefs, not me.
 
 
 
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