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    As a Lib Dem, I find both of your parties's views on political issues abhorrent.
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    (Original post by FarnhamBoy)
    As a Lib Dem, I find both of your parties's views on political issues abhorrent.
    On every issue? How about equal rights for homosexuals?
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    that too. Homosexuals shop too much. Not very socialist, is it?
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    Complaceny will bring your party down. Brown will go further to the left and lose alot of those who they gained in 1997.
    Im not complacent, i know it will be work but we're winning the argument and will, with a positive attitude continue to do so. Also, id be fully suportive of a Brown move to left as currently the general public is left of the lab leadership. Id only vote for Brown for lab leader if he said he'd be more left, otherwise id make a pointless but principled vote for the lefty candidate, c'mon jerry corbyn!

    (Original post by objectivism)
    Also Osborne lives in Bayswater not Notting Hill.
    Ok soz mistake but hes still a sterotypical Tory.
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    (Original post by Pepaim)
    Id only vote for Brown for lab leader if he said he'd be more left, otherwise id make a pointless but principled vote for the lefty candidate, c'mon jerry corbyn!
    ok...now thats something i completely disagree with, to continue growing like we have been doing under Blair, proving to the left wouldnt attract voters and would be unproductive, currently things like Private sector involved in the NHS (cant remember name) wouldnt have occured if Brown was leader and its something Blair had to push through. I believe the next leader should be Darling or Hein, or maybe Jack Straw.
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    =Pepaim]Im not complacent, i know it will be work but we're winning the argument and will, with a positive attitude continue to do so. Also, id be fully suportive of a Brown move to left as currently the general public is left of the lab leadership. Id only vote for Brown for lab leader if he said he'd be more left, otherwise id make a pointless but principled vote for the lefty candidate, c'mon jerry corbyn
    Brown will be discredited as the economy gets worse. He will be your John Major. People don't want a left wing government, the last time we had that we had masses of rubbish in the streets etc.

    Ok soz mistake but hes still a sterotypical Tory.
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    Notting Hill is not a sterotypical tory area.
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    Notting Hill is not a sterotypical tory area.
    :rofl:

    yeah, working class socialists live in an area where the average house costs in the region of £1.2m.

    You've just made my day. LOL.
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    I'm the secretary for CF at Sheffield Uni.
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    (Original post by zaf1986)
    :rofl:

    yeah, working class socialists live in an area where the average house costs in the region of £1.2m.

    You've just made my day. LOL.

    Its similar to Islington. Many live in fasionable apartments but vote labour. Either way Notting Hill is not a stereotypical tory area. Its very mixed race for example.
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    Its similar to Islington. Many live in fasionable apartments but vote labour. Either way Notting Hill is not a stereotypical tory area. Its very mixed race for example.
    Yep good point.
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    (Original post by Chrism)
    I'm the secretary for CF at Sheffield Uni.
    What do you make of CF's national leadership?
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    I've only met one or two of the individual members of the exec, and one of our members quit national exec this year after simply becoming disillusioned with them. However Bristow's a decent guy and seems to have his head screwed on. I think they do a better job in national politics, such as organisng student involvement in the general elections, than they do in student politics. This year's NUS campaign was a farce.
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    What sort of activities do you CFers get up to?

    I'm intending on joining my Uni's Conservative & Unionist Students Assoc. next year (I'm just sorry I left it so late)- we organise ourselves separately from the rUK and haven't united our Young Conservatives with our student branches yet...
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    I dont know what it is like at Uni but through my Local CF we have had various functions with members of the national leadership past and present.
    We have had Margret Thatcher, Boris Johnson and Liam Fox down to Basingstoke recently.

    You get to meet many of the key figures in the party,

    Plus you get to wipe the smile of the Labour by boasting that they did not win 1 seat in the recent election!!!

    Maria Miller for Basingstoke!!!
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    Its similar to Islington. Many live in fasionable apartments but vote labour. Either way Notting Hill is not a stereotypical tory area. Its very mixed race for example.
    I live in Islington, and some areas are fashionable but most people are working class or lower middle class.
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    (Original post by zaf1986)
    I live in Islington, and some areas are fashionable but most people are working class or lower middle class.

    I know Islington - near Upper Street many places are nice. The fact reamins Notting Hill is not a stereotypical tory area, whereas Islington is a stereotypical New Labour area.
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    Unless you face up to the reality, you can't change
    Trust me when I ell you as I look out of my window, its not grim in Oldham today. Saddleworth looks very pretty from my window.
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    (Original post by rachaelmarie)
    Trust me when I ell you as I look out of my window, its not grim in Oldham today. Saddleworth looks very pretty from my window.
    The north still has great social problems
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    And so does London? What difference does that make? You pointed out Notting Hill, and then there is tower hamlets, brick lane, shall I go on?

    The point is the Conservatives came a distant third in my constituency and many surrounding ones, indicating no matter how diverse you claim to be, The Conservative party is considered to be for white, rich people.
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    And so does London? What difference does that make? You pointed out Notting Hill, and then there is tower hamlets, brick lane, shall I go on?
    I never once said London did not have social problems. My point is that if you don't face up to reality you can't make things better.


    The point is the Conservatives came a distant third in my constituency and many surrounding ones, indicating no matter how diverse you claim to be, The Conservative party is considered to be for white, rich people.
    They are wrong to think that. Its a party for hard working people who make it on their own, just look at the backngrounds of Heath, Thatcher, Major, Hague, Howard. All came from humble backgrounds and have achieved great things. David Davis, most likely the next leader, grew up on a council extate. Whereas look at Labour - Blair, Wilson, Foot, all came from wealthy backgrounds.
 
 
 
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