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It can't be just me.. this whole.. school -> college -> uni -> job -> marriage -> family -> death thing! Everything is so damn unnecessary, we're all stuck in this controlled society believing we live in this great democratic world but it's all so ****. If you've seen fight club you'll understand what I mean..

Dont you people feel like you want it to change? I just hate it so much.. stupid big corporation wanting to make money, our food is full of colouring, preservants, fat and salt.. proccessed food is becoming stupidly cheap and fruit/veg is getting more expensive... dont you wish the world would just change and all people would just start living..

There is soo much depression and crap and we're just given pills to surpress it, diseases like cancer are increasing soo much, we're just creating problems and finding temporary solutions...

I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS TIS WAY! WHY DONT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!
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If you've seen fight club you'll understand what I mean..
For future reference, this is where you lose your credibility.
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For future reference, this is where you lose your credibility.
Why?
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Why?
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I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS TIS WAY! WHY DONT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!
[email protected] fight club reference.

Anyway, you can do something about it. You don't have to have the same life as everyone else if it isn't for you! You're in charge - what do you want out of life?
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For future reference, this is where you lose your credibility.
the film and book both are pretty valid commentaries on modern life

OP I revel in life and our society, money is great, if I had money I wouldn't currently be wasting time on the student room, alas £700 has been spent in the last two weeks on rent and bills
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Then don't do it.
Don't do the whole "school -> college -> uni -> job -> marriage -> family -> death thing!" and live your life like you want to.
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If you've seen fight club you'll understand what I mean..
I got this far and stopped...
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yet today, people live longer, are wealthier, have access to far superior medicine and by and large are politically freer.

I'd think in most societies everywhere in human history, there has been social pressure to follow norms; it is human nature and how we are.

As for companies making profits, well a market economy is not perfect, but we've largely experienced the benefits of our modern society because of it. There is no real viable alternative to a market economy, as things stand now anyhow.
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It's better than medieval society...the whole...born -> farm -> die at 25 thing.
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Why not **** off and live on a commune?
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(Original post by igohardondis)
Im totally with you, probably for slightly different reasons though.

I under stand exactly what your saying, the fact that we as a society call ourselves civilised and modern disgusts me, every single person's socially conditioned philosophy is based on religious values aswell as those who did not think straight before us.

Everything in this world is unequal, I look at things and throw up at the thought of success, money and capitalism. This world will only ever be fixed when we truely turn communist. I hope to see hmanity study the biology of the brain so that we can finally understand everything and fix society aswell and correcting all the crap that comes out of some peoples mouths some times.
No no no communism is the complete OPPOSITE the point.. the world is becoming controlled and.. planned.. that's the best way I can describe it..

And what's the problem with the fight club reference?
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I'm on a gap year at the minute, i have freedom and i'm loving it. I'm more than likely going to have another one after university too , and then some more later.

But yes, i have thought exactly the same.
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(Original post by kevin_123)
It can't be just me.. this whole.. school -> college -> uni -> job -> marriage -> family -> death thing! Everything is so damn unnecessary, we're all stuck in this controlled society believing we live in this great democratic world but it's all so ****. If you've seen fight club you'll understand what I mean..

Dont you people feel like you want it to change? I just hate it so much.. stupid big corporation wanting to make money, our food is full of colouring, preservants, fat and salt.. proccessed food is becoming stupidly cheap and fruit/veg is getting more expensive... dont you wish the world would just change and all people would just start living..

There is soo much depression and crap and we're just given pills to surpress it, diseases like cancer are increasing soo much, we're just creating problems and finding temporary solutions...

I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS TIS WAY! WHY DONT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!
I agree with you in part.

Firstly, I think 'democracy' is a tool used to prevent the public from revolting, thinking that we have a say. Take Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty. The 'oh give them a vote but if they vote no, make them vote again' melarchy.

Secondly, we do have a terribly controlled life, almost like a slave- but with the world population how it is, we need a structured society with laws and practices to prevent choas. A truly free human being is a dangerous one, simply because we have unlimited wants but have limited resources.

The food argument is interesting too. There is a dangerous level of cooperation between the food market and the pharmaceutical industry. If we are to survive as a species, we need to make sure that these two industries dont become one. The idea of civilisation was based on an independent system of agriculture. But remember, anyone can grow vegetables themselves, especially in this country. Most people have access to their own green space etc etc

I disagree with the diseases argument. Medicinal research at present is, in my opinion, on the brink of preventing/curing all cancers by utilising stem cells.

Remember, the world is a hell of a lot better than it was in the past. We have a wealth of information at our fingertips, allowing us to make more informed choices. We also have less wealth inequality, less hostility between nations.
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(Original post by igohardondis)
Im totally with you, probably for slightly different reasons though.

I under stand exactly what your saying, the fact that we as a society call ourselves civilised and modern disgusts me, every single person's socially conditioned philosophy is based on religious values aswell as those who did not think straight before us.

Everything in this world is unequal, I look at things and throw up at the thought of success, money and capitalism. This world will only ever be fixed when we truely turn communist. I hope to see hmanity study the biology of the brain so that we can finally understand everything and fix society aswell and correcting all the crap that comes out of some peoples mouths some times.
Unbeleivable that there are still people stupid enough to believe in this lark.
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"Be the change you wish to see in the world"
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(Original post by rajandkwameali)
yet today, people live longer, are wealthier, have access to far superior medicine and by and large are politically freer.

I'd think in most societies everywhere in human history, there has been social pressure to follow norms; it is human nature and how we are.

As for companies making profits, well a market economy is not perfect, but we've largely experienced the benefits of our modern society because of it. There is no real viable alternative to a market economy, as things stand now anyhow.
But more and more people are unhappy and depressed, suicide rates are rising, people are more angry etc. people living longer, having more money and medicine doesn't mean the world is heading in the right direction..
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I think there is always going to be problems in society/the world. It's pointless getting worked up about everything as it just creates unnecessary stress in your life.

A simple method I use is asking myself can I control what is happening? can I change what is annoying me? is there anything I can do about it personally? Ghandi said 'be the change you wish to see in the world.' If you feel that passionate about something, you should do something about it. If there is nothing you can do about it, you just have to accept it and get on with your life.

I think the following lines sum it up for me (taken from a tomb of an Anglican Bishop in the Crypts of Westminister Abbey):

'When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits, I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser, I discovered the world would not change, so I shortened my sights somewhat and decided to change only my country.

But it, too, seemed immovable.

As I grew into my twilight years, in one last desperate attempt, I settled for changing only my family, those closest to me, but alas, they would have none of it.

And now as I lie on my deathbed, I suddenly realise: If I had only changed my self first, then by example I would have changed my family.

From their inspiration and encouragement, I would then have been able to better my country and, who knows, I may have even changed the world.'
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I agree with you in part.

Firstly, I think 'democracy' is a tool used to prevent the public from revolting, thinking that we have a say. Take Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty. The 'oh give them a vote but if they vote no, make them vote again' melarchy.

Secondly, we do have a terribly controlled life, almost like a slave- but with the world population how it is, we need a structured society with laws and practices to prevent choas. A truly free human being is a dangerous one, simply because we have unlimited wants but have limited resources.

The food argument is interesting too. There is a dangerous level of cooperation between the food market and the pharmaceutical industry. If we are to survive as a species, we need to make sure that these two industries dont become one. The idea of civilisation was based on an independent system of agriculture. But remember, anyone can grow vegetables themselves, especially in this country. Most people have access to their own green space etc etc

I disagree with the diseases argument. Medicinal research at present is, in my opinion, on the brink of preventing/curing all cancers by utilising stem cells.

Remember, the world is a hell of a lot better than it was in the past. We have a wealth of information at our fingertips, allowing us to make more informed choices. We also have less wealth inequality, less hostility between nations.
Agree with what you're saying BUT my point with the medicine thing is that.. when someone have a disease they are "supposed" to die and their genese will not be passed on, now that we have so much medicine it's messing with "Natural Selection" but what do I know.. just look at the population increase..
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(Original post by kevin_123)
It can't be just me.. this whole.. school -> college -> uni -> job -> marriage -> family -> death thing! Everything is so damn unnecessary, we're all stuck in this controlled society believing we live in this great democratic world but it's all so ****. If you've seen fight club you'll understand what I mean..

Dont you people feel like you want it to change? I just hate it so much.. stupid big corporation wanting to make money, our food is full of colouring, preservants, fat and salt.. proccessed food is becoming stupidly cheap and fruit/veg is getting more expensive... dont you wish the world would just change and all people would just start living..

There is soo much depression and crap and we're just given pills to surpress it, diseases like cancer are increasing soo much, we're just creating problems and finding temporary solutions...

I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS TIS WAY! WHY DONT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!
Thats precisely what your supposed to think and feel after watching 'Fight Club' tip-top film, but sober up. You have office stationary to to sell.

(Original post by a_t)
the film and book both are pretty valid commentaries on modern life

OP I revel in life and our society, money is great, if I had money I wouldn't currently be wasting time on the student room, alas £700 has been spent in the last two weeks on rent and bills
Edit: I would describe either as 'valid commentaries'. They merely pander to the most base desires of frustrations of modern men, and do it well.
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