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"Why I'm ashamed to be a vet" - Daily Mail

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Reply 60

hannah_vet
If " a lot" of vets didn't put the animal first then there would be a lot more complaints every year to the RCVS than there is at the moment. The vets you are talking about are very much in the minority, people go into the profession with a strong desire to improve animal health and welfare and if " a lot" of them were like the ones you speak of then the profession would be doing much worse than it is now

perhaps your views will change when you go to vet school. All too often have i seen animals kept alive when they should have been put to sleep- either because of owner pressure on the vet, or just because treatments are available. I havent come across any vets that would treat an animal solely for the money but often pressure from owners leads to animal welfare being an after thought. As Nicky Paull said, if you truly believe an animals welafre is at stake by an owners decision, you can report them to the rspca

Reply 61

alegría
perhaps your views will change when you go to vet school. All too often have i seen animals kept alive when they should have been put to sleep- either because of owner pressure on the vet, or just because treatments are available. I havent come across any vets that would treat an animal solely for the money but often pressure from owners leads to animal welfare being an after thought. As Nicky Paull said, if you truly believe an animals welafre is at stake by an owners decision, you can report them to the rspca

my views on animal welfare will not change- I would always do what is best by the animal. I don't think vet school is a place where they are taught to forget all about animal welfare and just look at the money - if continuing with treatment is going to be helpful/viable for the animal, then why not? if it starts seriously affecting their welfare/quality of life then of course euthanasia should be looked at.
you seem to have a very pessimistic view of vets, which is a shame.

Reply 62

~*starlight*conquest*~
Rather than quitting, he should have continued being a vet so that there would be 'one more honest vet' in the neighborhood. While i'm sure some vets put making money before animal welfare, that's not always the cost. Pet insurance is necessary for long term diseases which require medication for the rest of the pet's life. If your dog needs eye drops twice a day for the next 6 years, it can cost a fortune, but with insurance you dont have to euthanase him just because you cant afford his treatment.

Humans are willing to go through 'barbaric' treatments for half a year extra life, so why wouldn't animals? It's a controversial matter, but I think killing an animal to save him the pain is just as unfair as forcing him to go through with the treatment.

I can't help but wonder weather he was just submitting the article for attention or publicity. Either that or he has the completely wrong idea about vets.

It is indeed, and something all potential vets should be thinking about.

Reply 63

alegría
perhaps your views will change when you go to vet school. All too often have i seen animals kept alive when they should have been put to sleep- either because of owner pressure on the vet, or just because treatments are available. I havent come across any vets that would treat an animal solely for the money but often pressure from owners leads to animal welfare being an after thought. As Nicky Paull said, if you truly believe an animals welafre is at stake by an owners decision, you can report them to the rspca


and thereby make an owner who just loves their pet too much never ever trust you or any other vet again, so when they have a new or other animal, and something goes wrong they will never take it to the vets because you forced them to kill their previous animal. Good call.

Reply 64

tigercallie
and thereby make an owner who just loves their pet too much never ever trust you or any other vet again, so when they have a new or other animal, and something goes wrong they will never take it to the vets because you forced them to kill their previous animal. Good call.

If your not prepared to make that call, you shouldnt be signing RCVS oath

Reply 65

alegría
If your not prepared to make that call, you shouldnt be signing RCVS oath

she didn't say she wasn't prepared to agree to euthanasia!!
jesus, are you at vet school or something? because if you're not you're really starting to get a bit big for your boots

Reply 66

alegría
If your not prepared to make that call, you shouldnt be signing RCVS oath


no, you should be talking to your clients and trying to help them make the decision, not reporting caring owners.

Reply 67

tigercallie
no, you should be talking to your clients and trying to help them make the decision, not reporting caring owners.

Im talking about those owners that are well past the convincing stage

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Yeah that's very interesting Olly, good to see some responses from other vets in practice. Am slightly dubious about a couple of the comments (surely if he's been through vet school he will have a lot more clinical experience than it's made out there). I think I will be making a post about it on my blog too. (although I haven't updated it since Freshers' Week, and have a lot to talk about in my first term as a vet student proper!)

Reply 71

This article is completely accurate. My friend works in the pet dept of an insurance company and the many stories about the greed and lack of ethics of the vets are fact based.. I have my own personal experience of the same thing as do many of my friends who own pets. This industry is in urgent need of investigation and regulation. The Government were going to be doing this but so far have done nothing. It is a money making business and the extortionate prices need to be capped. Direct your anger at the right target, people making excessive amounts of money on the back of animals that are ill, and owners who have no choice but to pay!!!

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"Why I'm ashamed to be a vet" - Daily Mail

[INDENT] This article is completely accurate. My friend works in the pet dept of an insurance company and the many stories about the greed and lack of ethics of the vets are fact based.. I have my own personal experience of the same thing as do many of my friends who own pets. This industry is in urgent need of investigation and regulation. The Government were going to be doing this but so far have done nothing. It is a money making business and the extortionate prices need to be capped. Direct your anger at the right target, people making excessive amounts of money on the back of animals that are ill, and owners who have no choice but to pay!!! [/INDENT]

Reply 73

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This article is completely accurate. My friend works in the pet dept of an insurance company and the many stories about the greed and lack of ethics of the vets are fact based.. I have my own personal experience of the same thing as do many of my friends who own pets. This industry is in urgent need of investigation and regulation. The Government were going to be doing this but so far have done nothing. It is a money making business and the extortionate prices need to be capped. Direct your anger at the right target, people making excessive amounts of money on the back of animals that are ill, and owners who have no choice but to pay!!!


1) What is the point of resurrecting a thread that's five years old? Really.
2) I've only read part of the article but tbh it is garbage. Owners always have the option to refuse treatment.
3) Regulation? It is regulated. I assume you mean that you want it to be treated like the NHS, which is of course beautifully managed. :smile:
4) Yes, of course it is a money making business. How dare those nasty vets want to earn a WAGE for doing what they do. How dare they want to CHARGE for their services, and for the knowledge that they've gained over years of experience. Awful, awful people. They should consider a more ethical career, such as working for a sly insurance company that tries everything to avoid paying out.
5) Direct YOUR anger at the right target mate, if you think that vet's fees are extortionate then remember that they have to pass on the costs from pharmaceutical companies etc. Also perhaps consider that it is nobody's right to have a pet.
6) No choice to pay? Actually, you have a choice whether or not to have animals, and if owners expect their pets to be free then they have the approximate IQ of a ham sandwich and should not be within a 50 mile radius of anything that can breathe. Also organistations exist that will subsidise vet fees for people having genuine money problems, and you could insure your pets to mean that unexpected vet fees are covered.
7) You're agreeing with a Daily Fail article lol, are you okay?
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Reply 74

Don't get me started on the pet insurance companies in Canada, and the ones in the UK aren't perfect either. I wouldn't take that as a reliable resource necessarily. Ruling out predisposed/genetic conditions? There was even one that came in with a policy that excluded accidents (so hbc is refused? What the H3ll is the point of having it then?).

Greed of vets? How about insurance companies lower their premiums, lower their deductibles, and start offering coverage for routine health/preventative care.

Otherwise I agree with LTC.

Sorry to be feeding the troll.

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