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    Couldnt live8 actually worsen global warming by providing a platform for more industrialised countries to be formed and more pollution to be released in the atmosphere. Afterall its very unlikely africans will care about pollution after all this starving. In a few decades we could have another china or india burning too much carbon!!
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    well whats the alternative?
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    Your right, legislation and environmental controls will be pretty much non-exsistant, which will increase polution. This can be seen in all of the newly industrialising countries.
    Personally, I cant see Africa developing through rapid industrialisation. There are too many political and social problems to overcome, and the "dependant" relationship with the developed countries would hold them back.
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    (Original post by darth_vader05)
    well whats the alternative?
    I didnt say theres an alternative, i just said helping them could suddenly trigger a continent of more people than any other continent (except asia) to consume more resources and we'd be in an even worse situation, globally!
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    Well seeing as the richest 10% of the population of the world control about 90% of the resources.. maybe we should use less..
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    (Original post by jdre86)
    Well seeing as the richest 10% of the population of the world control about 90% of the resources.. maybe we should use less..
    :ditto:
    i thinks it going to take a long time for africa to actually start consuming lots of resources.
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    (Original post by jdre86)
    Well seeing as the richest 10% of the population of the world control about 90% of the resources.. maybe we should use less..
    Oh i totally agree! Im not against helping africans, im simply very supportive of changes to help global warming decrease.
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    But it is not conclusive that global warming is as a result of pollution, it is one theory of many.

    And even if it was, I'm more worried about 30,000 children dying per day, than being 'green'.
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    (Original post by thebucketwoman)
    But it is not conclusive that global warming is as a result of pollution, it is one theory of many.

    And even if it was, I'm more worried about 30,000 children dying per day, than being 'green'.
    Well thats a good idea, we save the 30,000 children a day and then they all die anyway when the sea level rises by 7m................. hmmm :confused:
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    (Original post by melbourne)
    Couldnt live8 actually worsen global warming by providing a platform for more industrialised countries to be formed and more pollution to be released in the atmosphere. Afterall its very unlikely africans will care about pollution after all this starving. In a few decades we could have another china or india burning too much carbon!!
    You're probably right. We have to walk a tightrope and establish a fine balance between encouraging the development of Africa and the perils of more carbon being released due to rapid industrialisation. It is something that the Western nations will have to establish agreements on with the nations of Africa. But to be fair, it hasn't been conclusively proved that climate change is the effect of more carbon dioxide in the air.
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    Im worried about the rising sea levels more than anything else....
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    (Original post by melbourne)
    Well thats a good idea, we save the 30,000 children a day and then they all die anyway when the sea level rises by 7m................. hmmm :confused:
    As I already said, its not conclusive that this is even happening, or if it is affected by pollution.
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    (Original post by melbourne)
    Im worried about the rising sea levels more than anything else....
    That's the same thing as climate change. The theory is that ice caps are melting through the increased heat, thus adding to the sea level.
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    We should really be fighting both issues. Africa isn't going to become a global resource gobbling powerhouse overnight...
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    To restrict Africa from using fossil fuels is pretty unfair, considering that the whole of the Western world used them whilst they were developing. Doesn't really leave a good impression.

    Oh, and you don't need CAPITALS for every thread title.
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    I too am more concerned with the issue of the death and suffering at the moment. I think, especially considering much of the theories on global warming are extrapolation, that we should deal first with the bigger issue of poverty. Then we need to focus on pollution.
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    (Original post by Speleo)
    To restrict Africa from using fossil fuels is pretty unfair, considering that the whole of the Western world used them whilst they were developing. Doesn't really leave a good impression.

    Oh, and you don't need CAPITALS for every thread title.
    Gets your attention though :cool:
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    Gets your attention though
    So would:
    'Sex Sex Sex Porn Porn Porn'.

    It's annoying that you do it for every single thread.
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    The main problem I have with the whole shebang is that (at least some of) those behind it seem to think that the three issues they're pushing (debt, trade rules and aid) will solve the problems Africa faces. These are important issues, but so are (as already mentioned) climate change as well as issues of governance and democracy. There are quite a few countries in Africa with severe corruption problems, or a lack of democracy and respect for the rights of their citizens. What use is having more aid if you have to worry whether the guy knocking at your door is going to cart you off to jail for opposing the government or if the aid goes into someone in government's Swiss bank account rather than being spent on development?
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    African development and fighting the "greenhouse effect" are incomapatible.
    If the average wealth of the african populations increases to anywhere near Western standards, the demand for cars, air travel and other transport methods will undoubtedly rise, causing the greenhouse gas emmission to rise as well.
 
 
 

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