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    (Original post by Vienna)
    Apparently there were only a few votes in it (54 - 50). With two Finnish voters, perhaps Chirac should be concerned about how his words taste.
    When New York was eliminated, how many of the votes for New York were transferred to London?
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    (Original post by Vienna)
    Apparently there were only a few votes in it (54 - 50). With two Finnish voters, perhaps Chirac should be concerned about how his words taste.
    I did wonder if Chiracs buffoonery would have any effect on the outcome.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    When New York was eliminated, how many of the votes for New York were transferred to London?
    I dont think we know, but im sure any votes taken for political reasons would have been mirrored when the socialist terrorist appeasers went out.
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    This post will mostly be about destroying your blinkered views. My thoughts on what Mr Chirac said, are neatly summarised by this quote...

    (Original post by thekillersrock)
    Pah who gives a flying **** what Chirac thinks of British food?
    (Original post by Lord Waddell)
    If the only thing that Britain has done for Europe is mad cow, the only thing that France has done for Europe is to surrender to Germany after 6 weeks!
    Non sequitur.

    (Original post by JonD)
    If British food is so foul, and France's so much better, Chirac really has nothing to worry about if his overblown subsidies and tariffs are put on the same level as ours.. right?
    France's economy is based upon agriculture. The UK's is based on services (e.g. banking).
    It would thus be unfair, and a misallocation of resources, to give both the UK and France the same level of subsidies.
    By your own admission, if France's food is so much better, then it would be inefficient to spend more on British agriculture, and less on French agriculture.

    I am, by the way, against the CAP.

    (Original post by sophieD)
    He can make his snide remarks, but we all know its their argricultural system which is the joke. i think its time they got rid of their ox and carts and invested in some modern techniques, because they're costing the EU way too much.
    It is Europe's agricultural system which is a joke, not France's.
    France uses modern techniques in its farming. It is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world (if not the most) when it comes to farming.
    Old methods are only used if it truly enhances the taste of the product or traditional farming methods are essential.

    (Original post by technik)
    still i'd rather take my chances with a british roast beef dinner than eat some snails.
    So take Britain' national dish (insofar as we can be said to have one) and compare it to a dish eaten almost exclusively in a few regions in the North-West of France. :rolleyes: You avoided much of France's traditional cuisine with great skill. Congratulations.
    Have you ever eaten snails in Britanny?

    (Original post by esx77)
    haha chirac thinks he's funny, lets ask him how much unemployment there is in france
    2 million disabled people in this country are not counted as unemployed. This is over 3% of the total population, and closer to 6% of the working population.
    They arent included in unemployment figures in the UK, but are in France.
    The UK's amazing economy is drugged up, and its bad points are cleverly concealed by carefully chosen statistics. Although this is nothing new.

    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    French food is vastly overrated. Who wants to eat frog legs, slugs and snails? And French bread is usually quite poor too (being a baker for many years). Rather have a pie and mash! :tsr:
    Who wants to eat a few speciailities of selected regions in France? Perhaps not you. But short of going there for yourself and trying food (which is cheaper in France than you) in different regions (preferably away from big cities, which throughout the western world, is poor), you are in no poisition to comment.
    Again, have you tried frog's legs and sails?

    By the way, this may have been ironic (but just in case), you cant eat slugs. They are poisonous. They didnt forsake their shell for nothing!

    Bread in France is incredible. Stop talking rubbish.
    nobody in the world makes pattisserie like the french.
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    (Original post by Vienna)
    I dont think we know, but im sure any votes taken for political reasons would have been mirrored when the socialist terrorist appeasers went out.
    What an idiotic statement..
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    (Original post by Alexdel)
    What an idiotic statement..
    In what sense?
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    (Original post by Vienna)
    In what sense?
    socialist terrorist appeasers?
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    Oh those crazy French. What will they do next? Eat the legs of amphibians?

    :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Phonicsdude)
    France's economy is based upon agriculture. The UK's is based on services (e.g. banking).
    Is that why only 2.7% of France's GDP comes from agriculture?

    It would thus be unfair, and a misallocation of resources, to give both the UK and France the same level of subsidies.
    Simple economics dictates that if France has a comparative advantage in growing food then it should be able to outcompete its opponents without any subsidies.

    It is Europe's agricultural system which is a joke, not France's.
    France uses modern techniques in its farming. It is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world (if not the most) when it comes to farming.
    If France's agricultural system is so efficient, why does it need such large amounts of protection from the French and EU governments?

    2 million disabled people in this country are not counted as unemployed. This is over 3% of the total population, and closer to 6% of the working population.
    They arent included in unemployment figures in the UK, but are in France.
    The UK's amazing economy is drugged up, and its bad points are cleverly concealed by carefully chosen statistics. Although this is nothing new.
    The participation rate (the percentage of working age people who are employed) is 75% in the UK, and 70% in France according to page 15 of this study. Since 2000 when this report was written, the British participation rate remained constant, while the French one fell to ~65%.
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    (Original post by kingslaw)
    Oh those crazy French. What will they do next? Eat the legs of amphibians?

    :rolleyes:
    zee cra zee franch, sacre bleu!

    I thought it was a constitutional requirement that the president of france should insult the British at least once a month.
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    (Original post by Phonicsdude)
    Bread in France is incredible. Stop talking rubbish.
    nobody in the world makes pattisserie like the french.
    Rather have bread from Cornwall.
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    zee cra zee franch, sacre bleu!

    I thought it was a constitutional requirement that the president of france should insult the British at least once a month.
    They fought a revolution over it...
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    Rather have bread from Cornwall.
    Also patiserie is not bread, it's pastry. Bread is made in a boulangerie.

    French bread goes stale too fast. Give me a crusty granary loaf anyday.
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    (Original post by kingslaw)
    They fought a revolution over it...
    Several, so I hear.
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    The average transaction in banking is worth FAR MORE than the average agricultural product. It is no surprise that Western countries produce far more though industry, and far more again through services, than they do through agriculture.

    2.7% doesnt sound like lot, but compare that to the UK, whose GDP is just 1% agriculture, and it puts it into perspective. France produces nearly three times as much agricultural produce as the UK (it rivals and indeed beats the US in GROSS terms on many things, despite the US being far larger). OF course, this assumes that the average price of an agricultral product is the same in both countries (which, as far as I know, they are).

    Simple economics dictates that if France has a comparative advantage in growing food then it should be able to outcompete its opponents without any subsidies.
    France is not the only country to get subsidies.

    If France's agricultural system is so efficient, why does it need such large amounts of protection from the French and EU governments?
    It doesn't. Like I said, I am against the CAP.

    The participation rate (the percentage of working age people who are employed) is 75% in the UK, and 70% in France according to page 15 of this study. Since 2000 when this report was written, the British participation rate remained constant, while the French one fell to ~65%.
    Unemployment is a problem in France.
    Lets just not pretend that everyone in this country has an untouchable economy, as the original poster suggested.
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    (Original post by ChemistBoy)
    Also patiserie is not bread, it's pastry. Bread is made in a boulangerie.

    French bread goes stale too fast. Give me a crusty granary loaf anyday.
    Many French people buy a loaf or two fo bread every day. Food is inseperable from culture.
    The bread rarely has time to go stale.

    Im well aware what patisserie is. In practice, outlets who make bread, also make patisserie.
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    This may seem a bit random but in your face Chirac!
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    (Original post by Phonicsdude)
    Food is inseperable from culture.
    That is not particularly french though is it? All food is associated with culture.
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    I don't know what's better, winning the olympic bid or simply beating the french... Chirac's little out burst didn't do them any favours.
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    (Original post by Phonicsdude)
    The average transaction in banking is worth FAR MORE than the average agricultural product. It is no surprise that Western countries produce far more though industry, and far more again through services, than they do through agriculture.
    I don't see your point.

    2.7% doesnt sound like lot, but compare that to the UK, whose GDP is just 1% agriculture, and it puts it into perspective. France produces nearly three times as much agricultural produce as the UK (it rivals and indeed beats the US in GROSS terms on many things, despite the US being far larger).
    Your original claim was that the French economy was based on agriculture. When only 2.7% of the French income comes from agriculture and when only 4.1% of Frenchmen work in agriculture, it's pretty obvious that France has a service economy just like Britain.

    OF course, this assumes that the average price of an agricultral product is the same in both countries (which, as far as I know, they are).
    It assumes nothing. GDP measures production within one country; it does not depend on production in other countries. Out of every $100 created in the French economy, only $2.70 comes from agriculture. The number for the US is irrevelent, as it doesn't factor into the equation.

    Unemployment is a problem in France.
    Lets just not pretend that everyone in this country has an untouchable economy, as the original poster suggested.
    It has one of the highest average incomes and one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world (expecially if you exclude countries with 5 or less people like Luxembourg). The poster you responded to said nothing about the British economy, so I don't see how you can draw that conclusion.
 
 
 

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