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A quick diagnostic of Labour's opposition to the euro CAP watch

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    (Original post by comadeep)
    A quick diagnostic of Labour's opposition to the European Common Agricultural Policy:


    Wow, all this talk of making trade markets fairer for African farmers seems uncommonly altruistic

    Let's have a think about this....



    No subsidised euro farmers
    means more expensive euro grown foods
    means imported foodstuffs from the third world
    means global agribusiness muscles into poverty stricken Africa
    means they can get around all the stringent legislation that already exists in the first world concerning food growth and labour
    means they can can exploit the third world workforce
    means they can cut corners and costs
    means, as they become more and more powerful and economically dominant, their invisible hand can control African policies into the future, with a virtually endless resource of manpower and an almost infinite scope for resource war.

    Come on
    Do you think we're stupid



    Suck that corporate **** right down Tony....
    Hate to say it, but its going to happen anyway in around 7 years. The latest cap reforms have already set out the plan to scale down the cap and stop paying by ton produced (this is already in place) and instead pay for keeping the land in an environmentally nice way.

    20 years time no british agriculture whatsoever to speak of and africa under the west's control (once we've sorted out those nasty corrupt dictators with a few peace keeping missions (once we're done with middle east of course)).
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    Did you know that French cows receive just over $2 per day from the CAP but millions in the Third World (yes, it exists OUTSIDE Africa) survive on less than $1???

    Capitialism rears it's ugly head...
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    (Original post by heninacoop)
    Did you know that French cows receive just over $2 per day from the CAP but millions in the Third World (yes, it exists OUTSIDE Africa) survive on less than $1???

    Capitialism rears it's ugly head...
    The CAP is not a capitalist policy.
    It is in fact a feature of the socialist Europe.
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    Exactly.
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    (Original post by heninacoop)
    Capitialism rears it's ugly head...
    I never realised computers made in the USSR supported the internet, did you post that by telegraph or smoke signal?
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    (Original post by Lord Waddell)
    I see that you brought up the faults of the last Conservative government to cover up the Labour government's incompetance. They always seem to do that when they can't put up a good defence. And anyway, I think that the CAP would have proceeded over the heads of the British government, considering that France had so much more clout at the time than now, and more than did Britain.
    The CAP came into force in 1968, before the UK was in the EU. Incidentally, I agree that the CAP should be abolished and the rebate ended.
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    (Original post by Lord Waddell)
    Considering that the Conservative government laid the foundations of the economic prosperity under the Labour government due to Thatcher's reforms and because she made many neccessary ones, I find it hard to believe that all 18 years of Conservative government were that bad. All that your government has done is to grant independance to the Bank of England and impose a whole load of regulations on business that it could have done without.

    While the Conservative government of the day signed up to the EC, the British people confirmed that decision in a referendum. Do I have to bring up past history to educate you?

    And I'm not sure whether you regard that CAP reform as a good thing, but I'll indulge you, the Conservative government was in power in 1992, in case you didn't know.

    Yes the Conservative government signed up to Maastricht, but that was over the heads of many Conservative MPs, and the Conservative Party is the only major party that has taken the lessons of the 1990s to heart, and has become Eurosceptic and anti-intergration, unlike the Labour Party.

    By your logic, we are perfectly entitled to blame the current government for the crisis in the EU and the state of the CAP, since they have been in government for 8 years. Don't you realise that there are other states in the EU who wish to protect the CAP, many of whom at the time were far more powerful than the UK ie France, so that many things procceed that the UK government doesn't approve of? You can't blame everything that this government does wrong on the last Conservative government.
    All good so far, then you ruin it

    And finally:

    Who is the party in government that wants to take us into the Euro?
    Who is the party in government that wants us to sign up to the EU constitution?
    Who is the party in government that wants us to intergrate further into Europe?
    because these are all good things! Maastricht was federalism in all but name, meaning in effect that the "Constitution" represented only a small step forward, but would have made the EU more transparent and less complex. But thats another debate.
 
 
 
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