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    (Original post by Kondar)
    That depends if the biology professor has written dozens of books on the matter.
    Except that he's an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about. How many articles did he manage to publish in prominent political science academic journals? Any idiot can write books about politics; that doesn't make them knowledgeable of it.

    Anti-American, no, he is voicing his thoughts, which is very American. He thinks, and has the resources to back up, that the US is very manipulative in FP and has acted over aggressively in securing our national interests which often spill over into American-COPRPORATE interests. He is not a socialist, and like I said, I have never come across anything anti-Semitic about his mainstream work.
    He finds an ulterior motive in everything the US does, even when there is absolutely no evidence to back his assertions. He always starts with the assumption that America is evil, and works from there. Not very scientific.

    Manufacturing Consent and Chronicles of Consent are almost required reading for any Poly Sci buff.
    Perhaps in China, not somewhere where the science of politics is taken seriously.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Does that mean we should ask the biology department of Harvard on their opinion of the North Korean problem?

    I also read several of his articles, and there are few people in the world whom I abhor more than him. He's an anti-Semite (I don't care if he's Jewish), socialist, anti-American, who's deluded by his supposed intelligence, despite the fact that he knows absolutely nothing about politics. He should stick to writing about linguistics. From what I hear, he actually has a decent reputation in that field.
    Chomsky, to the best of my knowledge, is certainly not an anti-semite, a socialist or an anti-American. You are conflating opposition to government policies in an attempt to make a political dissenter seem like a racist. That's very unfair.

    He is himself a Jew but is extremely critical of Xionism and the actions of the Israeli government. Likewise, he is himself an American but extremely critical of American "imperialism" and the US government. And politically I have always understood him to be an anarchist.

    It is not wrong to compare the anti-American label with the anti-Soviet label of the USSR - they serve the same purpose.

    Meanwhile, the Patriot Act passed with one dissenter. But it wasn't who I was thinking of. I gave up looking - the internet was very cooperative but my memory not so much.
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    (Original post by Kondar)
    Propoganda techniques that have polarised our nation and the world and led us to war all the while stripping away the liberties and freedoms that make this country great.

    And then the big daddie- his ecconomic policies that are strangling our country.
    if im honest, i prefer bush to his predecessor...
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    Ah, so our agreed dislike of the Chinese government makes us racists. We're anti-Chinese. Cool. I've just discovered that despite being half-Jewish and no problem with Judaism, I'm antisemitic. And despite having American friends and family and no problem with Americans, I'm anti-American. Fascinating.

    Luckily, I can just dismiss this discovery since the person who intimated it to me is an "arrogant idiot" because he has political views that differ from my own.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    There is a difference between opposing the policies of a government and making up fictional reasons to hate a government. FYI, I neither like nor dislike the Chinese argument. I don't believe morality should play a role in international relations.



    The typical "I have a black friend therefore I can't be a racist argument". :rolleyes: Give me a break, being a Jew does not mean one can't be an anti-Semite and being American does not exempt one from being an anti-American.
    How does being a jew and at the same time being anti-semitic work? Is it some sort of masochism?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Anyone who finds conspiracies involving Jews and the American government where no evidence exists deserves the label of anti-Semite and anti-American. His knowledge (or lack thereof to be precise) of politics and his assumption that he actually does know anything about politics, shows him to be deserving of the title arrogant idiot.
    I believe he also has made the comment that while The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was a forged document, it was a "fair depiction," nonetheless. He's a sickening individual.
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    (Original post by Kondar)
    Douglas, your my friend and I like you very much, but your living in a world of make-believe with flowers and bells and leprechauns and magic frogs with funny little hats. (anyone?)

    You really dont have a clue, for starters, look at your source.

    John Mccain? Noam Chomsky? Jimmy Carter??
    Kondar, Kondar, Kondar, obviously my source is a right wing blogger, did you figure it would be moveon.org??? Give me a break will ya?

    Any conservative worth his/her salt would have 75% of the people on the bloggers list, as lefties screwing up America.

    Now why don't you at least admit that the 1st 5 people on that list are fifth columnists...........and leave my flowers and bells and leprechauns and magic frogs with funny little hats alone.
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    (Original post by technik)
    i'd like to nominate ronald mcdonald
    Ronald McDonald is pro choice.
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    Dean as the worst? Dear god, it's worse than I thought.
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    (Original post by Kondar)
    How is he destroying America by speaking the truth and bringing to light some of the manipulative tendancies of the United States. The guy is a world renowned MIT proffesor. Author of some very interesting and enlightening books. I have a lot of respect for him.

    You know what Douglas, you really should move to China. I think you would love it. Anyone who speaks their mind (and says something negative about the Government) is thrown into jail. There are no Micheal Moores or Dixie Chicks, they are all tortured at reeducation camps.

    It sounds like the perfect place for someone like yourself.
    Are you saying I need an attitude adjustment??
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    Dean as the worst? Dear god, it's worse than I thought.
    Well, by most accounts, he's harming the credibility of the Democratic Party. If one party is nullified by having a volatile leader, it would harm the political discourse in the United States as a whole.
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    (Original post by Kondar)
    How about adding CARL ROVE and GEORGE W BUSH to the list.
    Kondar, why don't you make a list of 20 people that are screwing up America, then we can discuss it.??
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    (Original post by psychic_satori)
    Well, by most accounts, he's harming the credibility of the Democratic Party. If one party is nullified by having a volatile leader, it would harm the political discourse in the United States as a whole.
    One thing I greatly dislike about this country is that all politicians are supposed to be your run-of-the-mill John Kerrys and George Bushs, it seems most people can't except anything besides that. Dean is different. He speaks his mind, and he actually puts emotion into what he does. For some reason, this scares people away. Dems accuse him of being too "off the cuff" and the like, but what do they want him to do? Lie down and be quiet? This country needs more people like him.
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    One thing I greatly dislike about this country is that all politicians are supposed to be your run-of-the-mill John Kerrys and George Bushs, it seems most people can't except anything besides that. Dean is different. He speaks his mind, and he actually puts emotion into what he does. For some reason, this scares people away. Dems accuse him of being too "off the cuff" and the like, but what do they want him to do? Lie down and be quiet? This country needs more people like him.
    Dean doesn't have enough tact for Americans to feel comfortable supporting him. He takes the spontaneity too far, and doesn't know quite when to reign himself in. If I were to characterize Dean, he'd be the guy at the party who desperately wants to acceptance, so he laughs in an exaggerated manner at the slightest joke and slaps someone on the back afterwards. Once he walks away, there's an uncomfortable silence and followed by a collective eyeroll. Dean is just too socially awkward to be a successful politician, particularly in America.
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    (Original post by Gwenyth!)
    Isn't Chomsky Jewish, himself? That still doesn't excuse his comments, just puts an interesting twist on the ordeal.
    As for the list, I agree with Alexdel's propaganda statement - it's just a bunch of centrist/left-wingers. The same could be done about the Republicans. Proves nothing, really.
    Well Gwenyth, do you think America is screwed up???...............If so, then someone must have helped screw it up, the conservative bloggers have their list, I'm sure the libs have their list, perhaps together we can help unscrew it............after the liberals come to their senses.
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    (Original post by psychic_satori)
    Dean doesn't have enough tact for Americans to feel comfortable supporting him. He takes the spontaneity too far, and doesn't know quite when to reign himself in. If I were to characterize Dean, he'd be the guy at the party who desperately wants to acceptance, so he laughs in an exaggerated manner at the slightest joke and slaps someone on the back afterwards. Once he walks away, there's an uncomfortable silence and followed by a collective eyeroll. Dean is just too socially awkward to be a successful politician, particularly in America.
    Desperately wants acceptance? Erm 447 Dems picked him to be the DNC, so I'd say he has it there. He has also attacked some Dems for their support of the Iraq war. If he wanted acceptance would he be as brutally honest as he is?
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    (Original post by Alexdel)
    How does being a jew and at the same time being anti-semitic work? Is it some sort of masochism?
    It's called self flagellation.

    I just read that Chomski is a self hating jew, Dave Horowitz and others claim he's an anti semite.
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    Dean as the worst? Dear god, it's worse than I thought.
    Padfoot, don't take it to heart. I know it's tough, but you'll get through it.

    Hey, how'd you get all those green emeralds? I don't want you giving me any neg-reps.
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    Why reply to that, instead of the actual discussion me and Satori were having?
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    Why reply to that, instead of the actual discussion me and Satori were having?
    because I read your post...and replied, before I got to your's and Satori's discussion......Make sense?
 
 
 

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