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    (Original post by H&E)
    Fairy muff. What were you thinking of changing to? Cosmopolitan Sex Goddess Studies?
    Nah, I've already conquered that field :p:

    I thought about enquiring and seeing if I could get in for Experimental Psychology but you need a science/maths A-level for that and the closest thing I have is Psychology A-level, which doesn't count, I don't think.. Oh well. It's not as if I'm unhappy doing English, I've just been thinking about my future and my English degree doesn't really fit in much there!
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    Ah ok. Didn't consider history I see
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    Nope.. No History A-level, they probably wouldn't be too impressed with that :p:
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    I'm feeling particularly sensitive for my subject atm! It needs more love
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    *history love coming* I did History A-Level and it was fun! yay history! *end history love*
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    there, there H&E.. i have history love too!

    tis a surprisingly common medic A-level :confused: & i'm pondering doing History & Philosophy of Science as a Supplementary Subject this year...
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    Woo! History love

    I meant more History & Economics. I've just had to write something about it, and it struck me the vast superiority it holds over PPE, which gets about 25 times as many applicants each year. Outrageous.

    I've got my own back, umm, by starting an anti-ppe soc on facebook which you should all join. Not least coz presently I'm the only member and I suspect the PPE Soc probably has the resources to hire a hitman to take me out before I reveal the flaws of their subject!

    History of science is sooooooooooooo interesting, you should definitely do it. Phillosophy of it should also be particularly relevant to a medic. Sounds like a great option!
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    F.Poste - i think Exp. Psych have a scary entrance exam type thing? so if you asked to sit that & aced it then they might consider you despite lack of maths/traditional science?

    (Original post by H&E)
    I've got my own back, umm, by starting an anti-ppe soc on facebook which you should all join.
    *strongly considers joining* although my husband & impending daughter are PPEs, & my personal tutor is a rather prolific one - so perhaps that makes me treacherous!

    History of science is sooooooooooooo interesting, you should definitely do it. Phillosophy of it should also be particularly relevant to a medic. Sounds like a great option!
    i know.. i'm very interested.
    only downside being it's examined in Hilary & because i'm not doing 'pipetting random substances into random dishes' based 3rd year research, but something involving real, live people :eek: i'll still be working on it throughout the michaelmass & hilary, rather than having done a neat 2 month block in a lab this summer. so it might spread me a little too thinly..sob.
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    (Original post by Elles)
    F.Poste - i think Exp. Psych have a scary entrance exam type thing? so if you asked to sit that & aced it then they might consider you despite lack of maths/traditional science?
    I did consider that, it's a good point.. but it also comes with the flipside of if I fail and don't get accepted, I'd be in a pretty tricky position! I'd want to stay on and still do English, but it'd look like I'd just be after the Oxford degree.. when the reality is just that I see myself following more than one career path in my life and I'm just not sure which to take first
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    (Original post by H&E)
    Woo! History love

    I meant more History & Economics. I've just had to write something about it, and it struck me the vast superiority it holds over PPE, which gets about 25 times as many applicants each year. Outrageous.

    I've got my own back, umm, by starting an anti-ppe soc on facebook which you should all join. Not least coz presently I'm the only member and I suspect the PPE Soc probably has the resources to hire a hitman to take me out before I reveal the flaws of their subject!

    History of science is sooooooooooooo interesting, you should definitely do it. Phillosophy of it should also be particularly relevant to a medic. Sounds like a great option!
    Don't worry, plenty of PPEists hate PPE as well.
    Except, of course, the PPESoc types, who think it's great, for the CV points. Fine if you want to do Pol/Econ and expect to walk into PWC with your experience of booking people to come and talk about why they're so wealthy. Not so if, like me, you do loads of Philosophy papers on useless stuff.

    Woo!
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    Binya, how come there's only like, 6 people in the uni doing H+E? Is that true? (yes, I've been ferreting on OxGoss again!)

    RxB- how come PPE and Hist and Pol has to do an IT project? it seems rather lame, and nothing of relevance to the subject...??? I would be so lame at that if they had it in English, I couldn't even do the crap-tacular Key Skills IT at school hehe.
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    Various reasons (MHE has to do it as well, but by the looks of things nobody failed it)
    1) it looks like nobody else only has 3 exams, so we need a 4th to justify our existence
    2) apparently we need to be comfortable with data manipulation, I don't know why
    3) for the QAA or something they need to be able to say all their graduates are IT literate, so they make us do a stupid hoop-jumping exercise

    The guy who's in charge of the data project is my tutor next term, I'll ask him
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    Clodagh: H&E have to do the IT project to. It's just so they can claim they teach us IT and get more funding.

    Re: H&E. It's coz the uni doesn't take it seriously. It's incredibly frustrating, in a way, to know the course you love, and work hard for, is treated almost as a joke by the uni. Only two colleges gave out offers last year for it (4 at Pembroke, 2 at John's). I applied for straight history then switched after getting an offer, and anyway Corpus doesn't offer it any more. Partly it's a function of relatively few applicants, but often colleges just can't be bothered with it: they'll give straight history offers to people applying to H&E. PPE and E&M are fine courses, and it's right they get a lot of places. But H&E does have very real merits, and as a social studies course I seriously believe it offers more than any other Oxford course. To devote so few places to it is really unjust. I am seriously considering writing to the head of history to ask him why it gets treated so shabbily!

    Re: PPE. It's a great course, with real merits. But I don't think it's so extensive that it deserves 75% of the university's places for philosophy and politics, and 66% for Econoimcs. People interested in mathematics and logic should be applying for Maths and Philosophy, people interested in the development of the state should be applying for MHP, and people interested in the the development of society should be applying for H&E. But they're not, because the uni doesn't offer enough places which means good candidates are turned away, while others don't even apply because the admissions state are so intimidating. Meanwhile PPE lets in lots of not so great candidates (well over a dozen people failed! In an arts course! In history we had two. And I don't mean failed IT projects, I mean properly fail) because it's so vast. It's not right!!!!!
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    Awww! Now I'm for the high profiling of H+E! maybe we should picket someone! I do think on PPE that they should make Maths mandatory, I think that's why so many people fail (probably the Economics?) And I sincerely hope IT is never introduced to English. I suck so much at IT, except the important things like Media player, MSN and forums...
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    (Original post by H&E)
    Re: PPE. It's a great course, with real merits. But I don't think it's so extensive that it deserves 75% of the university's places for philosophy and politics, and 66% for Econoimcs. People interested in mathematics and logic should be applying for Maths and Philosophy, people interested in the development of the state should be applying for MHP, and people interested in the the development of society should be applying for H&E. But they're not, because the uni doesn't offer enough places which means good candidates are turned away, while others don't even apply because the admissions state are so intimidating.
    I don't think it does take up quite that many of either Phil or Econ - probably true for Politics, but Classics has quite a lot of Philosophy in it (you can do proper philosophy papers, not just ancient stuff), and PhysPhil, MathsPhil and LanguagePhil are all big-ish. Also, E&M's now up to about 110, whereas PPE's down to about 260. But it's still a bit silly.

    Realistically not offering the ability to do just two of PPE in first year is the problem. People who want to specialise can't, and the university teaches Philosophy or Economics (less commonly Politics) to people who don't care about it for a whole year, because they're only interested in two of the branches.

    And I don't mean failed IT projects, I mean properly fail
    good save....
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    The IT thing is absurd, I agree. They provide virtually no guidance or teaching whatsoever, and if you just through the right hoops you fail. Potentially you can be an incredible PPE'ists, get firsts in everything, and be kicked out because you don't know how to draw a pretty graph on excel.

    And, I know you weren't at Open Days, but Big Dave was really encouraging people to consider M & P. He feels about it really strongly too. Who can blame him? You spend years doing a course which you find really interesting, and work hard for it, and basically the uni's saying it's not a good enough course to merit anything more than a neglible number of places (M&P gets maybe 15-20 places a year). I just don't get it. If a course is worth offering, surely it's worth offering a proper number of places? I'm not expecting 40, 50, 100 a year. But six? That's a bit of an insult tbh.
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    (Original post by RxB)
    good save....
    Nah, I meant it. Failing IT could happen to a complete genius, coz they give no guidance on which boxes you have to tick. You're not the only person I know who did very well in their "real" papers and managed to miss a hoop and fail it. Whereas failing a real paper I think reflect a lack of ability, unless you spectacularly misread every single question (which I suppose happens someitmes). One guy even failed politics. How d'you even do that?

    EDIT: I realise I'm being a bit harsh here, perhaps borderline rude. But seriously, I've nothing at all against PPE or the people doing it. It's just infuriating that the university seems to regard my course as a waste of space.
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    By the way, I know this is a little late and pretty redundant now, but they finally put up the English Mods results on the OxGoss website; it's at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1779/exam...ish%20MODS.jpg
    Congratulations Clodagh (I can see your name on the list ) and SaintJude! Very pretty little Ds there!

    Ooh, I do have one question, though... does anyone know of any instances where people have acheived distinctions, but NOT been commended with a scholar's gown/exhibitioner's gown? The rules seem to state that you have to have gained a first (or very near), and have preformed consistently well in the first year. What would happen if - hypothetically - someone did badly enough to warrant a warning in, say, the 2nd term, but caught up enough in the 3rd to get a distinction...?
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    Probably depends on the college. Similarly people who just miss getting a distinction (c'mon...)
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    (Original post by Fizzymartini)
    Ooh, I do have one question, though... does anyone know of any instances where people have acheived distinctions, but NOT been commended with a scholar's gown/exhibitioner's gown? The rules seem to state that you have to have gained a first (or very near), and have preformed consistently well in the first year. What would happen if - hypothetically - someone did badly enough to warrant a warning in, say, the 2nd term, but caught up enough in the 3rd to get a distinction...?
    what's an exhibitioner's gown..? or in some colleges do exhibitioners get a scholar's one?

    but anyway, everyone who got a distinction/first seems to become a demi/scholar at my college.

    but, given it's at the college's discretion if they have "rules" about consistent performance then they certainly wouldn't have to make you one! normally it seems to be decided by tutorial boards based on tutor recommendations...

    people who just miss normally becomes exhibitioners at mine RxB. though i'll be interested on what they do for a friend of mine who's already an exhibitioner, & was screwed out of D in 2nd year exams by our rather ridiculous medic system..
 
 
 

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