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A2 chemistry - buffer solutions

I will first type out a question and from there explain what a buffer solution is and if anything i have missed, feel free for someone to add in so i can fully understand this.

".....when dissolved in water, Ca(H2PO4)2 dissociates forming H2PO4- ions which are easily......

A solution of of calcium dihydrogenphosphate, Ca(H2PO4)2, in water acts as a buffer solution.

Suggest, with aid of equations, how this buffering action takes place."

So from the first information we are given i knew that Ca(H2PO4)2 would dissociate to -----> H2PO4- + CaH2PO4+

A buffer solution is a chemical that resists changes to pH in a environment. So, always describe when H+ is added and OH- is added

So when H+ is added: H2PO4- + H+----> H3PO4
When OH- is added: H2PO4- + OH- -----> H2O + HPO42-

Is that correct because for the OH- hence the minus part i always thought was reserved for an hydroxide so can i use H2PO4- for this or should i be using CaH2PO4- instead?

Thanks in advance. Please quote with help.

edit - from an earlier question we are told that the H2PO4- ion can act as an acid or a base.

Reply 1

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Reply 2

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Reply 3

boromir9111
I will first type out a question and from there explain what a buffer solution is and if anything i have missed, feel free for someone to add in so i can fully understand this.

".....when dissolved in water, Ca(H2PO4)2 dissociates forming H2PO4- ions which are easily......

A solution of of calcium dihydrogenphosphate, Ca(H2PO4)2, in water acts as a buffer solution.

Suggest, with aid of equations, how this buffering action takes place."

So from the first information we are given i knew that Ca(H2PO4)2 would dissociate to -----> H2PO4- + CaH2PO4+

A buffer solution is a chemical that resists changes to pH in a environment. So, always describe when H+ is added and OH- is added

So when H+ is added: H2PO4- + H+----> H3PO4
When OH- is added: H2PO4- + OH- -----> H2O + HPO42-

Is that correct because for the OH- hence the minus part i always thought was reserved for an hydroxide so can i use H2PO4- for this or should i be using CaH2PO4- instead?

Thanks in advance. Please quote with help.

:colonhash: that reminded me just how easy it is to forget stuff from class. Acids and bases :facepalm:
The question is kind of weird tbh..
H+ and OH- cant both react with H2PO4. Don't they have to react with the weak base/strong acid or strong base/weak acid respectively?

Reply 4

Oh hold on, we are also told that the H2PO4- ion can act as an ACID AND BASE. So, that's why we can use it.

Reply 5

boromir9111
I will first type out a question and from there explain what a buffer solution is and if anything i have missed, feel free for someone to add in so i can fully understand this.

".....when dissolved in water, Ca(H2PO4)2 dissociates forming H2PO4- ions which are easily......

A solution of of calcium dihydrogenphosphate, Ca(H2PO4)2, in water acts as a buffer solution.

Suggest, with aid of equations, how this buffering action takes place."

So from the first information we are given i knew that Ca(H2PO4)2 would dissociate to -----> H2PO4- + CaH2PO4+

A buffer solution is a chemical that resists changes to pH in a environment. So, always describe when H+ is added and OH- is added

So when H+ is added: H2PO4- + H+----> H3PO4
When OH- is added: H2PO4- + OH- -----> H2O + HPO42-

Is that correct because for the OH- hence the minus part i always thought was reserved for an hydroxide so can i use H2PO4- for this or should i be using CaH2PO4- instead?

Thanks in advance. Please quote with help.

edit - from an earlier question we are told that the H2PO4- ion can act as an acid or a base.


First of all you have to lose the calcium, as it's ionic.

Ca(H2PO4)2 --> Ca2+(aq) + 2H2PO4(-)

The you just consider the dihydrogen phosphate ions.

These can act as an acid by reacting with base:

H2PO4(-) + OH- --> HPO4(2-) + H2O

or they can react as a base:

H2PO4(-) + H+ --> H3PO4

As the ions can absorb either acid or base then they are behaving as a buffer.

Reply 6

boromir9111
Oh hold on, we are also told that the H2PO4- ion can act as an ACID AND BASE. So, that's why we can use it.

Aah fair enough. :h: then i believe you could be right :top:

Reply 7

charco
First of all you have to lose the calcium, as it's ionic.

Ca(H2PO4)2 --> Ca2+(aq) + 2H2PO4(-)

The you just consider the dihydrogen phosphate ions.

These can act as an acid by reacting with base:

H2PO4(-) + OH- --> HPO4(2-) + H2O

or they can react as a base:

H2PO4(-) + H+ --> H3PO4

As the ions can absorb either acid or base then they are behaving as a buffer.


Thanks for your reply and answer!!! I have one question... as i mentioned in my OP, the question said when dissolved in water it forms H2PO4- ions meaning one and not 2H2PO4- because you use H2PO4- and not 2H2PO4- ????

Reply 8

boromir9111
Thanks for your reply and answer!!! I have one question... as i mentioned in my OP, the question said when dissolved in water it forms H2PO4- ions meaning one and not 2H2PO4- because you use H2PO4- and not 2H2PO4- ????


Large numbers in front of species are called coefficients and are only used to balance the equation.

There is no such thing as 2H2PO4-, it simply means two lots of H2PO4-.

Reply 9

charco
Large numbers in front of species are called coefficients and are only used to balance the equation.

There is no such thing as 2H2PO4-, it simply means two lots of H2PO4-.


Oh of course because it's (H2PO4)2 on the reactant side, it will be 2H2PO4 on the product side, the number changes.... can't believe i made that rookie mistake lol. Thanks mate for clearing that up for me!!!! :smile:

Reply 10

Original post by charco
First of all you have to lose the calcium, as it's ionic.

Ca(H2PO4)2 --> Ca2+(aq) + 2H2PO4(-)

The you just consider the dihydrogen phosphate ions.

These can act as an acid by reacting with base:

H2PO4(-) + OH- --> HPO4(2-) + H2O

or they can react as a base:

H2PO4(-) + H+ --> H3PO4

As the ions can absorb either acid or base then they are behaving as a buffer.


Sorry if this is really late to ask. But I don't get how H2PO4(-) can act as a base. Thanks

Reply 11

Please respect the dead and don't dig them up.

Seven years in a few weeks!

(it is able to accept H+ ions)