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Some aspects of it. The same could be said of all class groups though.
Yes, many wc people are scum. Many drink too much, smoke, steal, and lack ambition.
I think Shameless is exaggerated abit! There might be a few people who are like that but personally I don't know anyone like that. I think Shameless is brill!
objectivism
Yes, many wc people are scum. Many drink too much, smoke, steal, and lack ambition.


I believe that these qualities are also often found amongst the upper classes as well.
objectivism
Yes, many wc people are scum. Many drink too much, smoke, steal, and lack ambition.

So it's only wc that drink too much and smoke hmmm :rolleyes:
Tonight Matthew
I believe that these qualities are also often found amongst the upper classes as well.

I totally agree.
carla18
So it's only wc that drink too much and smoke hmmm :rolleyes:



Propotionally they drink and smoke too much
objectivism
Propotionally they drink and smoke too much


Have you met all of them then?
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I love shameless, it's genius. Bearing in mind I haven't been there for a decade, it's exactly the same as South Manchester was back then, not even exaggerating that's exactly how it was. They've really captured it well.
objectivism
Propotionally they drink and smoke too much

Whatever! As usual people are negatively stereotyping the wc.
Tonight Matthew
I believe that these qualities are also often found amongst the upper classes as well.



I didn't say all were like this merely many. Of course some upper classes smoke too much, lack ambition etc. But this is by no means an epidemic in those classes. Many young mc people drink smoke etc but when time comes to move on they do and make something of themselves. Its nothing genetic, its the circumstances of wc people - attending bog standard comps (can;t afford provate or move to the catchment areas of good comps because its too expensive), live on council estates which are structurally havens for crimes etc
Tonight Matthew
Have you met all of them then?



Its a well known fact which studies have shown again and again. I'm surprised you are not aware of it.
carla18
Whatever! As usual people are negatively stereotyping the wc.


You are the the one who opposes the wc. Unless you face the reality we can't improve things.
objectivism
I didn't say all were like this merely many. Of course some upper classes smoke too much, lack ambition etc. But this is by no means an epidemic in those classes. Many young mc people drink smoke etc but when time comes to move on they do and make something of themselves. Its nothing genetic, its the circumstances of wc people - attending bog standard comps (can;t afford provate or move to the catchment areas of good comps because its too expensive), live on council estates which are structurally havens for crimes etc


Consequently, as by your own admission it's not really their fault - why do you refer to them as 'scum'?
Tonight Matthew
Consequently, as by your own admission it's not really their fault - why do you refer to them as 'scum'?



No it is their fault as even though things arn't wonderful they have let these things act as an excuse. For example 'its not my fault i'm a criminal, i went to a bad school' etc.
The majority of people i know have a lot of ambition they certainly are not lacking. They actually want to make something of themselves.
objectivism
Yes, many wc people are scum. Many drink too much, smoke, steal, and lack ambition.


Oh dear, one week Prince Charles is slaughtered for saying that children are too ambitious, and now you're complaining that there isn't enough ambition!

With regard to the thread topic, i haven't seen 'Shameless' so i don't have a clue, but going by the very name of the programme, i expect it is probably a slightly inaccurate stereotype.
objectivism
You are the the one who opposes the wc. Unless you face the reality we can't improve things.

Right i oppose wc and i am wc hmm yeah! What are you talking about and what are we trying to improve you have slightly lost me?
Oh dear, one week Prince Charles is slaughtered for saying that children are too ambitious, and now you're complaining that there isn't enough ambition!

Since when did i say i agree with Prince Charles?