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    Oooooh I can't wait to be clinical!

    *slightly random*
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    I just wanna be a first year! Well a second first year. Well...
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    Here is a less biased view of psychosis for anyone who is interested.

    Oh, and for the record, I have never harmed anyone else.
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    (Original post by BellaCat)
    Here is a less biased view of psychosis for anyone who is interested.

    Oh, and for the record, I have never harmed anyone else.
    Never claimed you had, but I'll put it like this I'm all for equality in the workplace, but would question having a paraplegic work as a paramedic, and would question a psychotic patient working in a postion with vulnerable people like a doctor.

    From mind.org...
    "For many people, these experiences can be highly distressing and disruptive, interfering with everyday life, with making friends, having relationships, and finding or keeping a job."

    Everyone knows that these things can range from mild to severe, but someone who develops schizophrenia at an early age has a poor prognosis, and sometimes will never fit stabley into society.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Never claimed you had, but I'll put it like this I'm all for equality in the workplace, but would question having a paraplegic work as a paramedic, and would question a psychotic patient working in a postion with vulnerable people like a doctor.

    From mind.org...
    "For many people, these experiences can be highly distressing and disruptive, interfering with everyday life, with making friends, having relationships, and finding or keeping a job."

    Everyone knows that these things can range from mild to severe, but someone who develops schizophrenia at an early age has a poor prognosis, and sometimes will never fit stabley into society.
    Well, thankfully, that doesn't seem to include me.


    The website also states that...

    'Depending on other factors, psychiatrists will base a diagnosis on symptoms of this kind. The diagnosis could be severe depression, schizophrenia, manic depression (bipolar disorder), paranoia, psychotic illness, schizoaffective disorder, or puerperal psychosis (a very severe postnatal depression). These diagnoses are not clear-cut, and people may receive different diagnoses at different times.'

    Personality disorders vary in severity too, do they not? And at the extreme end of the spectrum there is anti-social personality disorder. http://www.mind.org.uk/Information/B...y+disorder.htm
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    (Original post by BellaCat)
    Well, thankfully, that doesn't seem to include me.


    The website also states that...

    'Depending on other factors, psychiatrists will base a diagnosis on symptoms of this kind. The diagnosis could be severe depression, schizophrenia, manic depression (bipolar disorder), paranoia, psychotic illness, schizoaffective disorder, or puerperal psychosis (a very severe postnatal depression). These diagnoses are not clear-cut, and people may receive different diagnoses at different times.'

    Personality disorders vary in severity too, do they not? And at the extreme end of the spectrum there is anti-social personality disorder. http://www.mind.org.uk/Information/B...y+disorder.htm
    [am confused at to what your point is...]

    And the delusions and hallucinations seen in servere depression are of a different ilk to those of scizophrenia, but still these patients will not be able to function properly within society.
    AS for puerperal psychosis (which you for some reason highlighted) thats extremely nasty condition which often needs admission to specialist mother and baby psych units.

    I believe the lady you left her baby on top of the gas cooker the other week was suffering puerp psychosis or schizoaffective disorder wasnt she? [extreme case i know]
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    Roy Meadow has been 'struck off'... I hate the way we close ranks and look after our own :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Sarky)
    I just wanna be a first year! Well a second first year. Well...
    :ditto: And then maybe I could post here without getting jumped on :ninja:
    (I know I haven't been, but that's because I haven't posted )

    I've not encountered a nasty doctor (but then I've not encountered many). My mum would call her GP incompetent, she had seriously high blood pressure, weeks of tests and then only when she searched the 'net, she diagnosed herself and went and asked for her b.p to be taken was it noticed. V. lucky she didn't have a stroke :eek:
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    At my surgery you no longer get a specific doctor, they just give you whoever is available and I hate that. There is one who is really nice and talks a lot about everything, and another who is very old with white hair and hearing aids and he is awful.

    Once I went to see the old and awful one to ask to be tested for an underactive thyroid, and he was trying to make me feel awful about it. He said my aunt and my grandma wasn't a very strong family history so it wasn't worth it, in his day they would diagnose you by looking at you and people like me waste the NHS's money with useless tests. He asked me if I knew what a cretin was, and said that people with an underactive thyroid used to be called cretins because they had odd looking faces and I don't look like a cretin so the test is a waste of time. And when I said ok I won't have the test then he said "oh no, then you'll worry about it forever and blame me for it. No, you can have the test, even though it's a complete waste of time and money."
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    Don't know if I've just been lucky or it's a reflection of the proportion of "nice" doctors that there are, but I've had a lot of health problems and so have met quite a few doctors and can honestly say that I've never had one behave "nastily" or cold towards me. I have a fantastic relationship with my GP and have always felt well looked after by any doctor taking care of me, and also that I could be completely open with them. And honesty on an EDU is usually a pretty rare thing. Couple of *****y nurses, though, (but who can blame them for being cranky at times?) and a clinical psychologist who forgot my name on several occasions. Bearing in mind I saw her for over a year . :rolleyes:

    Just my two cents! lol.
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    (Original post by SammyD)
    Once I went to see the old and awful one to ask to be tested for an underactive thyroid, and he was trying to make me feel awful about it. He said my aunt and my grandma wasn't a very strong family history so it wasn't worth it, in his day they would diagnose you by looking at you and people like me waste the NHS's money with useless tests. He asked me if I knew what a cretin was, and said that people with an underactive thyroid used to be called cretins because they had odd looking faces and I don't look like a cretin so the test is a waste of time. And when I said ok I won't have the test then he said "oh no, then you'll worry about it forever and blame me for it. No, you can have the test, even though it's a complete waste of time and money."
    I can't begin to describe what I would have said to him in your situation.
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    My old doctor was horrendous. I went once because my throat had swollen to the point where I couldn't eat or speak, so when I couldn't put up with it any longer I paid him a visit. Obviously due to the nature of the problem I couldn't speak loud, and to top things off the guy had a hearing aid. I tried to tell him what was wrong as loud as I could, doing stupid actions clutching my throat so that it was blindingly obvious what the problem was, but he couldn't hear me. I was just about to get a piece of paper out to write down exactly what was wrong when he really went off at me, calling me stupid and demanding I shouted the problem at him that instant. Another time I went for some more prozac and again he went off at me, this time telling me that it was my own fault I was depressed and I had no-one to blame but myself. He went on and on at me until I cried and then he just said nothing. You'd think that being a doctor he'd be the first to understand that when dealing with an illness of such nature there should be a certain amount of tact displayed when treating a patient, and since he'd read my file he obviously knew the surrounding circumstances and thus placing blame upon me is not really viable, however I just guess it goes to show that intelligence does not necessarily bring common sense with it.

    He really upset one of my (male) friends too, so I know its not just me he acts that way towards. Needless to say that after the last incident I switched surgeries.
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    (Original post by tammy_girl)
    she started shouting at me saying i made my own condition worse etc........best thing was none of the ointments etc was workin for me thats why i was referred.....she was a complete and utter ****** :bawling: xoxo
    Want me to kiss you better?
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    Roy Meadow has been 'struck off'... I hate the way we close ranks and look after our own :rolleyes:
    I really doon't see why it took so long, the guy had no excuse. we're taught from day one that if you don't know an answer in clinical medicine, never blag. Which is basically what he did
    "Hey, its not my fault i fooked up the stats, im not a statistician"
    "So why were you testifying as an expert witness....?"
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    (Original post by friendlyneutron)
    Don't know if I've just been lucky or it's a reflection of the proportion of "nice" doctors that there are, but I've had a lot of health problems and so have met quite a few doctors and can honestly say that I've never had one behave "nastily" or cold towards me. I have a fantastic relationship with my GP and have always felt well looked after by any doctor taking care of me, and also that I could be completely open with them. And honesty on an EDU is usually a pretty rare thing. Couple of *****y nurses, though, (but who can blame them for being cranky at times?) and a clinical psychologist who forgot my name on several occasions. Bearing in mind I saw her for over a year . :rolleyes:

    Just my two cents! lol.
    Its something i don't understand.
    So many bloody kids do psychology at school and uni these days, and yet we have bugger all psychologists...(hence each one has a ridiculous number of patients, and loses that personal touch they really need more than anyone)
    barmy.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    I really doon't see why it took so long, the guy had no excuse. we're taught from day one that if you don't know an answer in clinical medicine, never blag. Which is basically what he did
    "Hey, its not my fault i fooked up the stats, im not a statistician"
    "So why were you testifying as an expert witness....?"
    Totally agree: http://www.admissionsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10823
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    (Original post by Saffie)
    :ditto: And then maybe I could post here without getting jumped on :ninja:
    (I know I haven't been, but that's because I haven't posted )

    I've not encountered a nasty doctor (but then I've not encountered many). My mum would call her GP incompetent, she had seriously high blood pressure, weeks of tests and then only when she searched the 'net, she diagnosed herself and went and asked for her b.p to be taken was it noticed. V. lucky she didn't have a stroke :eek:
    Hmmm, internet is a blessing and a curse. On the one hand it sometimes helps people pick up stuff that a doc may have missed (tho really a BP check is so damned easy that a GP should do it everytime its something BP related), but on the other hand you get people panicking they have something awful when its not at all.

    Had a lady with a blister on her foot come in once convinced it was a diabetic ulcer... :eek: lol.

    I think the best thing about online resources isn't actually self diagnosis but help and information groups. Alot of docs simply are crud at explaining the ins and outs of conditions (unsurprising given the time constraints of appointments).
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    The sad thing is, a lot of GPs would love to be able to spend more time with their patients, but simply can't, because if you run over with one, then the next one will be late and the backlog just builds up. We just need more of them.
    The simple solution would surely be that Universities increase the number of places open for Medical students? If there is such a need for general practitioners, why aren't Universities recognising this and allowing for more students to study Medicine? It seems that at most univerisites, only 1/5 of applicants get a place - overall you can see that thousands of potential doctors will be wasted every year.
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    It's quite amusing - statistics show that when a character in a soap has a certain illness or a disease, a surge of patients self diagnose themself with it, no matter how obscure or unlikely the case.
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    (Original post by Whizz Kid)
    The simple solution would surely be that Universities increase the number of places open for Medical students? If there is such a need for general practitioners, why aren't Universities recognising this and allowing for more students to study Medicine? It seems that at most univerisites, only 1/5 of applicants get a place - overall you can see that thousands of potential doctors will be wasted every year.
    No, we have enough annual medical students now.
    We don't have enough hospital funding for doctors.

    You can train as many med students as you like, but if theres no funding to pay their wages as docotors then you ain't gonna get more docs!
 
 
 
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