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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Tumours grow. Its what they do. If they had felt in may (which i'll bet they probablary did really) they undoubtabley wouldn't have felt anything. The ovaries are certainly not the easiest of things to palpate! And going to the doctors multiple times a week actually is a worse idea than waiting a couple of weeks and going back - because they will assume the patient is a hypochondriac, converting, or is depressed or something.
    But if she did go back that many times and saw several docs then its a great case in point of why docs should ask the same questions time and time again, and do the same physicals time and time again. Because undoubtably the reason that was missed was someone would have looked in her files seen her history and physical exam was reviously clear and assumed it still would be.

    Hope your mum is all fine and dandy these days.
    Jamie, I know you mean well but the truth is nobody felt until November, by which time they were massive (obviously I know they grow :p: ) but in my opinion, if they were cancerous, then it would have maybe been too late, which I find totally unacceptable of the medical profession.

    The reason my Mam went more than once a week was because she was a) In a lot of pain b) Incredibly worried and c) because she believed that doctors were there to help people. Unfortunately the doctors at this practice didn't seem to care, and just wanted her out of the way as quick as possible. Of course I'm not saying that all doctors are like that before all you medical students jump on my back, I'm sure you're all very nice people I just felt that really, my Mam wasn't treat very well, and definately not acceptable enough. Thats all, I just wanted to make my point on this post, so maybe one day, if you medical students get a similar case, you might have a feel and get your patient seen to as quickly as possible, to prevent anyone else going through all the pain my Mam did.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Its something i don't understand.
    So many bloody kids do psychology at school and uni these days, and yet we have bugger all psychologists...(hence each one has a ridiculous number of patients, and loses that personal touch they really need more than anyone)
    barmy.

    Oooh me :itsme: I do Psychology!

    The reason that there aren't many clinical psychologists is mainly due to the fact thats its so bloody hard to get accepted on a course, its almost impossible! For example, Newcastle Uni have a Clinical Psych PhD, you need a 2.1 (but what they mean is a 1st ) but from all the people over the country, they accept a measly 20. :eek: That really isn't much compared to how many people study Psychology
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    (Original post by * gemchicken *)
    For example, Newcastle Uni have a Clinical Psych PhD, you need a 2.1 (but what they mean is a 1st ) but from all the people over the country, they accept a measly 20. :eek: That really isn't much compared to how many people study Psychology

    A measly? 20 is a lot of PhD students for a department to take on...

    alternatively you can get off your batty, write a grant proposal take it to a uni and go from there... ...you'll be amazed at how much researchers lover people who have sorted out their own grants etc...
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    (Original post by blissy)
    A shockingly large proportion of medical professionals I've experienced have been unsympathetic and unhelpful
    Watch the Movie "Munnah Bhai MBBS" , and u will know why
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    A measly? 20 is a lot of PhD students for a department to take on...

    alternatively you can get off your batty, write a grant proposal take it to a uni and go from there... ...you'll be amazed at how much researchers lover people who have sorted out their own grants etc...
    Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. :p: But by saying a measly 20, I know its a lot for a department to take on but for the number of people nationwide studying psychology, it really isn't an awful lot if you think about it! I think someone in another thread said there were 64,000 students doing a degree in Psychology, so offering 20 a place, isn't much.
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    (Original post by * gemchicken *)
    Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. :p: But by saying a measly 20, I know its a lot for a department to take on but for the number of people nationwide studying psychology, it really isn't an awful lot if you think about it! I think someone in another thread said there were 64,000 students doing a degree in Psychology, so offering 20 a place, isn't much.

    My point being that that is 20 odd people who they prepare grant proposals etc for. If you rocked up with your own research proposal etc, a) they would bite your hand off and b) your cv will be infinitely stronger than most...
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    My point being that that is 20 odd people who they prepare grant proposals etc for. If you rocked up with your own research proposal etc, a) they would bite your hand off and b) your cv will be infinitely stronger than most...
    Yep I see your point It's just finding time whilst doing work/research/lectures/workshops etc at Uni! I think I'll have a year as an assistant Psychologists then maybe think of applying. Give me some time to think about it
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    Do you know what really annoys me about this thread? Certain people seem to think they are much better than anyone else, because they're studying medicine, or because they're Oxbridge students. Can I just say this doesn't make you better than anyone. The sooner you realise that, the better. Start treating people with a bit more respect, ok so they're not studying medicine, doesn't mean they're thick and you need to talk to them as thought they're 3 years old. From an earlier post, yes doctors need to ask questions but they could save a lot of time if they could be arsed to read through a patients notes, its not difficult. Why should tammy girl get upset and have to offer to close the thread to save a few stuck up people their feelings? The thread was in no way offensive its just trainee doctors (and yet you are still training so you shouldn't really be giving out medical advice anyway) who twist words and make out they're upset by them. Get a grip! If you're easily upset you're not thick skinned enough to be a doctor!

    Please think more aboout your 'bedside manner' as well, if you like. You are obnoxious, rude, patrionising and basically not very nice people. You don't give many straight answers and you use sarcasm when you don't know what you're talking about. Right so you might know something about medicine, but for example the girl above on about a Psychology phd, you don't do psychology so you know bugger all, so stop going on as if you know what you're talking about, you don't, you just make yourself look even more foolish. See I know nothing about Psychology, but I will not butt in and pretend I do. Thats the difference.

    Anyway the main point of my post is that you shouldn't think you're better than anyone else because you study medicine. If these are the types of people training to become doctors then I hope I never get ill, if it means being treated by the likes of you. Now you cna moan/report/neg rep this post but it needed to be said. There isn't any reason for it being deleted, I have not personally insulted anyone, I was careful not to use names. Deleting it would simply just prove you can't handle the truth, and are abusing your powers as a mod. Think about what I've said, you probably need to.
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    (Original post by Straight Talker)
    Do you know what really annoys me about this thread? Certain people seem to think they are much better than anyone else, because they're studying medicine, or because they're Oxbridge students. Can I just say this doesn't make you better than anyone. The sooner you realise that, the better. Start treating people with a bit more respect, ok so they're not studying medicine, doesn't mean they're thick and you need to talk to them as thought they're 3 years old. From an earlier post, yes doctors need to ask questions but they could save a lot of time if they could be arsed to read through a patients notes, its not difficult. Why should tammy girl get upset and have to offer to close the thread to save a few stuck up people their feelings? The thread was in no way offensive its just trainee doctors (and yet you are still training so you shouldn't really be giving out medical advice anyway) who twist words and make out they're upset by them. Get a grip! If you're easily upset you're not thick skinned enough to be a doctor!

    Please think more aboout your 'bedside manner' as well, if you like. You are obnoxious, rude, patrionising and basically not very nice people. You don't give many straight answers and you use sarcasm when you don't know what you're talking about. Right so you might know something about medicine, but for example the girl above on about a Psychology phd, you don't do psychology so you know bugger all, so stop going on as if you know what you're talking about, you don't, you just make yourself look even more foolish. See I know nothing about Psychology, but I will not butt in and pretend I do. Thats the difference.

    Anyway the main point of my post is that you shouldn't think you're better than anyone else because you study medicine. If these are the types of people training to become doctors then I hope I never get ill, if it means being treated by the likes of you. Now you cna moan/report/neg rep this post but it needed to be said. There isn't any reason for it being deleted, I have not personally insulted anyone, I was careful not to use names. Deleting it would simply just prove you can't handle the truth, and are abusing your powers as a mod. Think about what I've said, you probably need to.
    This has nothing about people studying X, Y or Z at Uni A, B or C. From reading other posts you have made, you seem to have some major inferiority complex, that you dress up as 'straight talking', which is actually plain rude.

    If the comment about knowing nothing about psychology was aimed at me. My best friend has a D.Phil in Experimental Psychology, and I have a D.Phil in something unrelated - which means I know how D.Phils/PhDs/funding options/departments etc. work.

    You say you don't butt in when you don't understand anything - I think a myriad of your other posts prove otherwise, including your 'Doctors study BScs not BAs' comment, and the chestnut 'OxBridge do not do BAs'... Perhaps you should practice what you preach...
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    (Original post by Straight Talker)
    Please think more aboout your 'bedside manner' as well, if you like. You are obnoxious, rude, patrionising and basically not very nice people. You don't give many straight answers and you use sarcasm when you don't know what you're talking about.
    Pot, kettle, black anyone? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    This has nothing about people studying X, Y or Z at Uni A, B or C. From reading other posts you have made, you seem to have some major inferiority complex, that you dress up as 'straight talking', which is actually plain rude.
    Absolutely. People here are just sharing their opinions and the Medics naturally are more clued up about Doctor's being nasty etc. They also have far more important things to do than dress-up their posts so they're all nice and friendly or 'of a good bedside manner'.

    All advice on TSR is unprofessional, and if you're studying medicine you can still give advice! :confused:
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Oooooh I can't wait to be clinical!

    *slightly random*
    Translated as 'Ooooh look at me, I'm so much better than you people, I'm going to be a doctor, so I'll be superior than all you people...quick gimme attention...look at me!'

    As for *slightly random* erm no, this was planned.

    Absolutely pathetic :rolleyes: :mad:
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    (Original post by Saffie)
    Absolutely. People here are just sharing their opinions and the Medics naturally are more clued up about Doctor's being nasty etc. They also have far more important things to do than dress-up their posts so they're all nice and friendly or 'of a good bedside manner'.

    All advice on TSR is unprofessional, and if you're studying medicine you can still give advice! :confused:
    Errr brown nose? Can you get any further up?? Please you're not a doctor so the point of your post was?!

    Also the bold part, you actually referring to these people as medic? They're not qualified yet, so really you're very wrong. The part about dressing up their posts? Well its not dressing up their posts, its more just good manners really. Something they all sadly lack
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    (Original post by Straight Talker)
    Translated as 'Ooooh look at me, I'm so much better than you people, I'm going to be a doctor, so I'll be superior than all you people...quick gimme attention...look at me!'

    As for *slightly random* erm no, this was planned.

    Absolutely pathetic :rolleyes: :mad:
    Anyone else thinking 'chip'??? :rolleyes: And again - pot, kettle, black... What's the point of this post if you're not saying 'look at me, I tell it like it is. I like getting peoples backs up for the attention. Now that is pathetic, not someone actually looking forward to the next phase in their training.

    I personally can't wait to get out of the classroom and on to the wards - to become a clinical student!
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    My doctor once told me there was nothing wrong with me when I was aching all over,could barely breathe and was literally delirious.He told me to go home and stop being so stupid.

    The other week I went to see him and he was going on about whiney A-level students coming to visit him all the time!I was like,"Uh...so I only need another prescription for my asthma"..when I actually wanted to discuss something else but was too scared.

    My mother had an eye operation the other week and the nurse told her to take the patch off the next day....she was supposed to keep it on for a week!
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    (Original post by Straight Talker)
    Errr brown nose? Can you get any further up?? Please you're not a doctor so the point of your post was?!

    Also the bold part, you actually referring to these people as medic? They're not qualified yet, so really you're very wrong. The part about dressing up their posts? Well its not dressing up their posts, its more just good manners really. Something they all sadly lack
    Oh, I'll be a doctor one day Tbh I don't care what anyone in this thread thinks of me, I'm allowed to give my point of view and I will do so, just because it disagrees with yours you see no point to my post, haha.

    They're medics in that they're in the medical profession, just to get into uni they've shadowed qualified docs, so they might know a little more than you! Good manners?!?! "Errr brown nose? Can you get any further up??"- Fluffy's right, you really are a hypocrit!
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    Right, I feel compelled to respond to some of these posts, if only to dispel some of the myths circulating about mental illness in general,which, unfortunately seem to have been swallowed by various people around here who really should know better.

    (Original post by Jamie)
    [am confused at to what your point is...]
    I would have thought it was particularly obvious - I am challenging your 'yah but theres mental illnesses...and then theres mental illnesses' statement in post #135; your apparently rather polarised portrayal of the diagnosis of mental illnesses.

    And the delusions and hallucinations seen in servere depression are of a different ilk to those of scizophrenia, but still these patients will not be able to function properly within society.
    Not in my experience. There are almost as many differing types of hallucinations as there are sufferers of psychosis. My 'delusion' merely consists of a huge, overactive conscience which manifests itself as an external voice. (One of my means of ameliorating this was to 'punish' myself by starving myself (leading to an eating disorder)) which means you'd probably be a lot safer with me than a person whose conscience is not so 'overdeveloped'. According to a therapist I had, given my upbringing - devout Catholic school, domestic violence etc - my 'psychiatric' problems are not all that remarkable.

    And can I remind people that my diagnosis is schizo-affective disorder, not schizophrenia. The impression I gained from the psychiatrist who made the initial diagnosis is that he couldn't make up his mind. (Yes, I'm one of those profoundly irritating patients who insists upon reading her notes. Some of those docs whose words reside within my manilla folder really ought to brush up on their written communication skills.)

    AS for puerperal psychosis (which you for some reason highlighted) thats extremely nasty condition which often needs admission to specialist mother and baby psych units.
    The reason I highlighted this conidtion is that it is, although terrifying, an essentially temporary condition. My mother worked on a Mother and Baby Unit (at QEPH) as a psych nurse (You wouldn't believe the amount of people I've met in hospital etc whose parents are part of the medical profession. Funny that) and one of her patients was a doctor. I believe she returned successfully to work. Would you be reluctant to work alongside her?

    Oh, and, I am what they call 'high-functioning', apparently.


    I believe the lady you left her baby on top of the gas cooker the other week was suffering puerp psychosis or schizoaffective disorder wasnt she? [extreme case i know]
    No, I'm afraid I didn't. Perhaps you have a link.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Controlled with an atypical yes, but for how long, and what about the effect when it stops working or there is loss of compliance? Plus there is the dementive effects of chronic schizophrenia.
    If i was just started going out with someone and i found out then yeh i would break things off. If i was properly serious about them then that would be a diff matter.

    One of the schizoaffectives on my ward who is 'being controlled' by clozapine - which im sure you know is the strongest atypical about still believes her husbnad is a rapist, a murderer, having affairs etc (poor guy has visited her every night for last 10 years), is convinced she has over 50 children, believes she has a heart attack every other day and recently tried to stab someone for 'stealing her baby'.
    Anyone in health services who isn't a bit prejudiced is, frankly, a liar.
    Now this is a case which arouses my curiosity. Are you sure this woman has been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. Depressive or manic type? And how does the 'affective' part of the disorder manifest itself? Are they altering the dose of her medication? Presumably if she's been inpatient for ten years (Now that's very rare nowadays, even for the most severe cases) the poor woman has been moved from ward to ward. No one stays on an 'Acute' ward for ten years.

    An extreme case.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Hell, I'm empathic as they come, I feel terribley for some of the patients i meet and their families, and have nothing but sympathy for most patients.
    But if i was having a one night stand and found a colostomy bag then yes i'd think twice. And yes, i'd think twice about STARTING up a serious relationship with someone with a long term major mental illness.
    Well, do what I do, avoid one night stands.

    Are you empathetic or are you sympathetic. You can't be both.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Pot, kettle, black anyone? :rolleyes:
    On which side?
 
 
 
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