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    For some time I have been debating as to what kind of capability a person has to have in order to be rendered stupid or intelligent..

    I have always believed that ANY person can achieve academic success if they choose to focus on their subjects hard enough or chose to like it, at least. However, recently, I've started to doubt this as I used to be a potential A* student in GCSEs, and now I can't even keep focus on a specific composition of texts that are used to aid me in my revision, etc.

    But generally, do you believe a person's intelligence is a controlled or preferred quality that a person may achieve? Or is it rather a genetically derived gift?

    Personally, I believe the rate at which a person understands or receives a certain piece of information, including the speed at which they recognise the relationships made between the said piece of information and other aspects of their knowledge is uncontrolled, rendering it to be a variable dependant on their genetic nature, etc. However, how much a person knows or understand, regardless of how long it took them to understand it is an aspect of their own preference...

    What's your opinion on this?
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    I don't think academic success is anything to do with intelligence, below university level at least. To me, intelligence is about experiences, and about using your experiences in everyday life. It's simply about being able to draw on your past to form your current self.
    I therefore don't think it has any genetic qualities.
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    I think it has a lot to do with common sense and morals. Those things which cannot be taught or faked.
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    I believe intelligence is at least primarily genetic.

    Achievement isn't always proportional intelligence though. After all, for many things, you get out what you put in. You can be the smartest kid in the world, but if you don't do any work, it's easy to waste it all.
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    (Original post by cpj1987)
    I don't think academic success is anything to do with intelligence, below university level at least. To me, intelligence is about experiences, and about using your experiences in everyday life. It's simply about being able to draw on your past to form your current self.
    I therefore don't think it has any genetic qualities.
    So say if both of your parents were doctors, you wouldn't inherit any intelligence from them? Socialisation is imperative to intelligence. If you grow up and are surrounded by intelligent people, chances are you will grow to be an intelligent person.
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    I don't think intelligence is a genetic thing, more of how you've grown up and what has surrounded you. If, for example, your parents valued books, you are more likely to do so too. And this goes some way towards intelligence at school. I think most people could achieve decent grades if they put the effort in, although not all people can, because I know some people the genuinely work the hardest they can and still only obtain average grades.

    As for what I judge to be intelligence is not on grades, but how people handle things in life, and how their views/morals etc effect them. A person can be book smart, but still dumb in other aspects. The two aren't necessarily linked.
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    well I have a funny story:
    A friend who is a A/A* student tried to phone me yesterday on the landline. She texted me saying she thought my phone was broken as there was a funny beeping noise... It was the engaged ring tone that I thought everybody can recognise?
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    (Original post by cje10)
    So say if both of your parents were doctors, you wouldn't inherit any intelligence from them? Socialisation is imperative to intelligence. If you grow up and are surrounded by intelligent people, chances are you will grow to be an intelligent person.
    I wouldn't say so, no.
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    Generally open-mindedness contributes a lot to it. A willingness to learn and study and analyse, to change your opinions but still have opinions. It's not just about learning facts and having an amazing memory or whatever, but about what you do with those facts.

    I also think that someone can be both intelligent and lacking in common sense. They aren't the same thing at all.
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    I reckon intelligence is mainly genetic. And I kinda agree with your definition.
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    Intelligence is, in my opinion, comprised of the following:-

    - The ability to think rationally and logically, preferably overriding emotional thoughts and basic instinct where applicable. This is often seen as being demonstrated in mathematical skill, but that's by no means a reliable indicator.
    - The ability to learn from your mistakes.
    - The ability to "read between the lines" while still differentiating wild speculation from valid points.
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    Intelligence is at least partially genetic, yes. If it's nurtured correctly, you can end up being very intelligent indeed - however, if you don't bother to 'keep it up', so to speak, of your own accord as you grow up, it can decrease.
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    I'd say it's about a natural way with words, so you speak fluently with a good vocabulary. I'd say a good sense of humour too (really). Academic success is also a way of showing it, although I really am wary about this. Academic intelligence and straight 'intelligence' are not the same thing.
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    (Original post by sonya_x)
    I have always believed that ANY person can achieve academic success if they choose to focus on their subjects hard enough or chose to like it, at least.
    I know a woman who is one of the top vets in the UK and has several veterinary practices and is making millions a year, yet she is far from 'intelligent' (or at least as intelligent as I and people I know are) because all she knows is being a vet, which she has spent all her life training, learning and practising, nothing else. I'm not being mean but there's not much else to her really - a conversation is just boring as she just seems so 'simple'.

    I think intelligence and intellect are more about comprehension, problem solving, logical thinking and other similar skills. But I may be biased as that is where my intelligence comes from - I'm not 'academically smart' but I can learn and apply new skills far better than most.

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    Speaking from experience there are only two possible scenarios
    1)Intelligence is not inherited
    2)I am adopted
    or both.
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    (Original post by Iota Null)
    Intelligence is, in my opinion, comprised of the following:-

    - The ability to think rationally and logically, preferably overriding emotional thoughts and basic instinct where applicable. This is often seen as being demonstrated in mathematical skill, but that's by no means a reliable indicator.
    Yes, that is true.

    Intelligence has little to do with nurture. Answer to the one of the posts, if you hang around with intelligent people, and are bought up in a intellectual environment, you won't necesserally be intelligent, though you will most likely be SMART.

    As a very vague definition; intelligence is your ability to understand.
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    I think of intelligence as the capacity of an individual to learn and derive new knowledge and apply it. For example if you were really determined you memorise Einstein's field equations off by heart to show off and get bare gash... You might appear knowledgeable but I don't see that as intelligent.

    Now if you were to come up with a new unifying theory of quantum mechanics and general relativity that would be more than intelligent. And you'd get even more gash... Or maybe not...

    ... :sad:
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    Hard to answer.

    I belive that how far one studies is a factor but not the only one. In fact many never went to university and are as smart or even smarter then colledge students.

    It is a mix of factors that include your learning capability, your experience, and many other factors including natural ones.
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    Capacity to acquire and interpret knowledge.

    Probably has roots in genetics which may put a top cap on your abilities but I'd say your final actual intelligence is much more influenced by your surroundings. E.g even if a baby which the potential to be very intelligent is severely neglected as a child they do not develop properly (i.e. learn to speak etc) and end up remedial. By the same token I'd say children which are continually engaged in discussion and learning end up more intelligent than those who are not.
 
 
 
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