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    Why do alot of elderly people think they are superior to the youth?

    An example (out of many) in my experience is:
    I was on my way home from a party on a bus at about 8 in the morning, i had missed the last bus the night before so was looking a bit scruffy. My hair is (natrually) jet black and quite long. As i had not intended to stay the night, i had slept on the floor in my jeans, so my clothes were very scruffy too. In an attempt not to fall asleep i was listening to my music very loud (through earphones of course). As you might have noticed i'm a massive queen fan, so i was listening to my playlist on my phone. At the stop after two old women got on and sat directly behind me. They were complaining about how todays youth had no idea what real music was. one of them decided to prove their theory by asking me what i was listening to, i ignored them. She then said "i'll bet he's embarrased about what he's listening to". At this point i turned round to inform them that not only was i listening to real music, i was far from average. She asked if i had heard of freddie mercury and queen, i answered yes, she shouted "Lies!!! just like every other teenager, hasn't got a clue" i showed them my phone, currently playing bohemian rhapsody. they kind of stared for a while then started shouting "Respect your elders, don't back chat" and **** like that. I couldnt be bothered with their crap that early in the morning and screamed at them to "shut the **** up! I'm not a stereo type, not a number, i'm me, so if you will kindly leave me alone, thank you". They managed to get me kicked off the bus, i was stuck for another hour and 45 minutes because of them. The driver was actually a freind of mines dad, he understood that the people had been taking the piss, but didn't want to anger them anymore by asking them to leave or alowwing me to stay on.

    Long, i know, but the basic is, old people stereotype loads and only see what they think they see. Is this the medias fault for only showing stories which show damage done by the minority?
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    Everyone stereotypes loads, we all think old people are whinging complaining gits. And this is mainly true I feel.
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    I hope to be a 'pretentious old bugger' one day!
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    Telling them to stfu helped reaffirm their stereotype of youngsters.
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    (Original post by Frazmand)
    I hope to be a 'pretentious old bugger' one day!
    I'm 22 and I'm already one.

    I do think that women who say the things quoted in the OP and who provoke/patronise young people are weird, but I admit that I do stereotype some young people myself, not from the media but from personal experience.
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    They grew up in a world so much different to yours, you probably cannot imagine. Their whole moral system, life experience, basically everything they base their values on, are not at all the same as yours. They've been through so much in their life that has affected their worldview - some grew up before/during the second world war.. and a lot of them, rightly so, believe that they have earned respect for their life's work, particularly from people like you who haven't accomplished anything yet (disregard this if you in some kind have, but school is nothing). Disrespecting your elders doesn't just show bad character, but a complete lack of comprehension of the kind of life these people had, and what some of them had to go through; nowhere near as easy and comfortable as you have it now.

    I'll agree that the women in question were not acting appropriately, and in this case you were right, except that you overreacted quite a bit.. I would have thrown you out of the bus as soon as you told them to shut the **** up, no matter what happened before, whether I was the bus driver or not. You just don't do that, especially when you are a kid addressing those who have been through so much more than yourself.
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    (Original post by cpj1987)
    I'm 22 and I'm already one.
    I want to be the old bugger that pops kids footballs when I'm older!
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    All of them are like that, I don't know why they think they're superior though as mostly they're narrow minded...or am I the one stereotyping now? This guy in a shop knew my Grandad and asked how the piano playing was going, when I informed him I now play heavy metal on the electric guitar, he looked me up and down, saw I was wearing something a bit different to most teens and pretty much said my Grandad would be ashamed of me. He didn't know anything else about me and surely actually playing a musical instrument is better than going out and stabbing people in the street. I refuse to go to the local pub cos it's just full of old people who disagree with you on everything even though they're obviously wrong.

    Nice music taste by the way
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    (Original post by Azer)
    They grew up in a world so much different to yours, you probably cannot imagine. Their whole value system, life experience, basically everything they base their values on, are not at all the same as yours. They've been through so much in their life that has affected their worldview - some grew up before/during the second world war.. and a lot of them, rightly so, believe that they have earned respect for their life's work, particularly from people like you who hasn't accomplished anything yet (disregard this if you in some kind have, but school is nothing). Disrespecting your elders doesn't just show bad character, but a complete lack of comprehension of the kind of life these people had, and what some of them had to go through; nowhere near as easy and comfortable as you have it now.

    I'll agree that the women in question were not acting appropriately, and in this case you were right, except that you overreacted quite a bit.. I would have thrown you out of the bus as soon as you told them to shut the **** up, no matter what happened before. You just don't do that, especially when you are a kid addressing those who have been through so much more than yourself.
    i agree i over reacted, but its just the smugness they had, i'm 13 for gods sake, i havent been given the chance to accomplish anything and if i had been given the chance, i would have taken it and ran, but i haven't got the chance yet. and just because i'm only 13 doesnt mean i haven't had a hard life so far, i have been bullied for as long as i can remember, and its not getting better.. And my values, i have very traditional values, through choice rather than force.
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    (Original post by Frazmand)
    I want to be the old bugger that pops kids footballs when I'm older!
    lol, you don't need to be old to do that
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    (Original post by Azer)
    They grew up in a world so much different to yours, you probably cannot imagine. Their whole moral system, life experience, basically everything they base their values on, are not at all the same as yours. They've been through so much in their life that has affected their worldview - some grew up before/during the second world war.. and a lot of them, rightly so, believe that they have earned respect for their life's work, particularly from people like you who haven't accomplished anything yet (disregard this if you in some kind have, but school is nothing). Disrespecting your elders doesn't just show bad character, but a complete lack of comprehension of the kind of life these people had, and what some of them had to go through; nowhere near as easy and comfortable as you have it now.
    I posted on this the other day; I think it's largely the fault of the traditional media that older generations do not understand the young people of today. Thanks to our diverse backgrounds and lifestyles and the way they mix both within communities and the larger global community we are an amazing and unique generation, and that older people do not understand this is very sad. There is more to young people than hoodies and binge drinking, that should be more widely recognised.

    (Original post by Carl)
    You have no idea of my intentions in posting this thread! I genuinely posted to find out if any other young people in the UK do use these terms. As I expected, aside from LOL, pretty much nobody does. Now draw your own conclusions, but to me (and I'm only posting this because you so strongly objected to this thread), but does this (and the accompanying article) not demonstrate to you a newspaper where little actual factual research goes on, and where the editorial priority is to demonise and write off the youth of today. Imagine the reaction of, for example, my grandfather, who reads the Mail. He genuinely believes this generation is a lost generation, using words like "porn" to mean cool, and stabbing up the vulnerable and defenceless. To me that is intolerable. We are part of a generation that, thanks to the means available to it, are the most creative, expressionistic, and idea-literate that has ever happened. It greatly saddens me that the editors of the Mail instead see us as a threat, due the actions of a minority of us (and by that I mean youths like the guy who killed that Mizen kid in the bakery). We are an amazing generation, and the way in which the Mail chooses to portray us as a group is shocking and indefensible. The article itself says that most teenagers have a vocabulary of around 16,000 words, so to give the headline that we only have an 800 word vocab (when it means this is what some young people use day-to-day in a limited range of communications such as texts and social networking messages) is far from simply misleading, it is wilfully wrong and trying to paint a picture that simply is a fabrication.
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    Well, think of the positives; our generation will turn out be awesome old buggers and these oldies will be dead very soon.
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    Shoulda knifed them like a true yoof
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    (Original post by gear-guy)
    lol, you don't need to be old to do that
    True, but I'll need property to do it properly.
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    Those two you mentioned have a serious problem, I don't think all of 'em are that militant.
    Also, if it helps, you always know that they'll be dead soon :yes:
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    should should have waited for her to get off the bus and given her a hip-breaking throw down
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    (Original post by Installation)
    Those two you mentioned have a serious problem, I don't think all of 'em are that militant.
    Also, if it helps, you always know that they'll be dead soon :yes:
    This was a few months ago now, theyre probably dead anyway, probably slipped on the ice while shouting at chavs:yes:
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    What makes you so 'different'? You looked like a scruff, were listening to music loudly on the bus, and swore at old ladies.

    That doesn't sound like nice conduct to me. I HATE it when people play their music loudly on the bus :no:
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    What makes you so 'different'? You looked like a scruff, were listening to music loudly on the bus, and swore at old ladies.

    That doesn't sound like nice conduct to me. I HATE it when people play their music loudly on the bus :no:
    Did you get the bit about me getting almost no sleep? Sleeping on the floor? no? i would normaly be fairly smartly dressed, but at that moment in time all i wanted to do was get home. it's not my fault i missed the last bus, i didn't plan to sleep on the floor, if i had known i was going to be spending the night i would have had my stuff with me, all i had with me was my bass and my phone. and as for it being too loud, i mean it seemed loud to me, but i had an incredible headache so everything seemed way louder than it was.
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    What makes you so 'different'? You looked like a scruff, were listening to music loudly on the bus, and swore at old ladies.

    That doesn't sound like nice conduct to me. I HATE it when people play their music loudly on the bus :no:
    exactly my thoughts. all in all, it seems to me that you were keeping up the stereotype, and you didn't do anything to make the situation better.

    and tbh most people who aren't old don't have the guts to tell people to turn their music down, for example, which these ladies were probably annoyed about in the first place.

    learn some manners, and show some consideration for other people mate
 
 
 
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