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    (Original post by WhuTom)
    I genuinely feel sorry for you; what you've got, just like any sexual preference, eye colour, blood type, anything - is genetics embedded in you that in some respects you can't do much about.
    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT PAEDOPHILIA IS A GENETIC DISORDER
    why don't people get this :woo:

    it is an actual medical disorder, not a mere "sexual preference" that we can accept.
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    (Original post by Dairy Milky Chocolate)
    not a good idea
    yeah, and counterstrike trains you for shooting people in real life, as opposed to releasing your emotions in a relatively harmless game, right?

    Besides which, it's the right thing to do on principle. Sexual orientation in itself is not a bad thing (unless you're one of those people who are like LOLZ GAYS ARE EVIL), in this case it's only the harm it causes that makes it bad. If technology eventually manages to simulate it without causing any harm, there's no real objection for it.
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    Forget all the posts about "you should consider medical help." You should just ******* do it or you will become a paedophile. You have watched child porn and enjoyed it You must know what the next stage is. If you have any decency or sincerity about guilt then you will do this. Plus you need to tell the police or childline about those sites you used so they can do something about it and maybe for your concsience. I really dont think youre a troll and need help because i bet there was a time when you thought watching child porn was vile and you would never sucumbe to the urge. How easy it was for someone to just find that filth on the internet shocks me. It is ******* disgusting. Even if you wont help your own mind help the children being abused in those sites you owe that much!!
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    Uhmm you need help.
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    (Original post by gingergooner)
    lol again! :P I have to admit though, the way he spelled it annoyed me that time
    I laughed when I saw that you'd quoted me :p:

    I did it for comic effect this time :p: (Even if it was only funny to me :p:)
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    (Original post by Just for this thread)
    A normal life would be much better...
    Yes, of course.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    yeah, and counterstrike trains you for shooting people in real life, as opposed to releasing your emotions in a relatively harmless game, right?

    Besides which, it's the right thing to do on principle. Sexual orientation in itself is not a bad thing (unless you're one of those people who are like LOLZ GAYS ARE EVIL), in this case it's only the harm it causes that makes it bad. If technology eventually manages to simulate it without causing any harm, there's no real objection for it.
    I did not say anything about games. You are missing the point.

    Paedophilia is a medical disorder, not a harmless sexual preference. Don't you know that?
    Maybe that is why you are too scared and abuse the anon feature lol
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    (Original post by Reflexive)
    There is an argument for saying our reaction to it is a large part of the problem. In some tribal societies it is a normal part of life. In others the age of consent varies. I'm not saying it is moral, all I'm saying is it is a social construct, and these things prove it, and thefore what you said about no-one in the beginning fancying children doesn't make much sense.
    Point taken. What I was trying to get across is I don't think its a natural progression, lets take a step back in my argument. Through influence or through genetic makeup, somewhere we have picked up what we are attracted to through normal reproductive qualities. If someone is male but is attracted to other males they have somehow (once again through influence or genes) picked up a female characteristic. But to be attracted to children, who neither have secondary sexual characteristics that are naturally attractive to us (originally for reproductive purposes) nor can they feel the same attraction in return came out of nowhere and tells me it is something more deepseated. In some societies it has become the norm, yes, but in some societies slavery has been the norm. Perhaps it is through religious or protective reasons, but I am not willing to accept it as a normal sexual attraction.

    At the end of the day, who is able to judge? We can't possibly know. Also in our society it is possibly the amount of abuse children have endured that have led us to believe that paedophilia is wrong, whereas it didn't take gay rape for homosexuality to be discovered.
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    (Original post by Dairy Milky Chocolate)
    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT PAEDOPHILIA IS A GENETIC DISORDER
    why don't people get this :woo:

    it is an actual medical disorder, not a mere "sexual preference" that we can accept.
    This.
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    Why is full of retards?

    Maybe the Mods should step in and clear this thread.

    Anyhow - OP - All you can do is put it to the back of your mind. I would only see a Dr if I was literally on the verge of doing something seriously dodgy.

    Have you done any research into whether or not it can be fixed by a psych?
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    (Original post by Dairy Milky Chocolate)
    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT PAEDOPHILIA IS A GENETIC DISORDER
    why don't people get this :woo:

    Is there evidence to suggest homosexuality and other sexual preferences are genetic 'disorders'? If not, then I'll take on board what you said, but I'm not so sure. People have been trying to prove and disprove homosexuality in genetics for a long time, and it's exactly the same principle as a sexual attraction to anything else.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way condoning paedophilia but unless it's proven then I think it's inhumane to have a lynch-mob like attitude to them. They need help, not exterminating.
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    You know a technique therapists use with offending pedophiles is to give them an elastic band to put round their wrist. When they feel a child related though coming on they ping the elastic band against the inside of their wrist. It hurts like a ***** and will more than aptly stop you thinking about what you were. The theory being that if your brain associates bad thoughts with pain, over time the bad thoughts will become less prominent and fade away as you think about them less. Could be worth a shot if you are getting to the stage of desperation.

    No substitute for professional help though.
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    (Original post by Clubber Lang)
    Why is full of retards?

    Maybe the Mods should step in and clear this thread.

    Anyhow - OP - All you can do is put it to the back of your mind. I would only see a Dr if I was literally on the verge of doing something seriously dodgy.

    Have you done any research into whether or not it can be fixed by a psych?
    Yeah, there are some treatments available, but they've only been used on people convicted of child abuse and prisoned, so there likely to have other underlying problems... I do need to do a bit more research into it
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    (Original post by Garnelaf)
    I think it's scary, people's reaction. He hasn't acted on this. People have rape fettishes. That doesn't mean they should be shot and burnt because they're not actually going to rape anyone. Just learn to roleplay or something. I don't think you've done anything wrong (yet) and hope that you continue to not act on it. If it's really scaring you seek psychological help. Unless you're a troll, in which case GG.
    wise words.

    I do not understand all the hate aimed at him. I'm sure he hasn't chosen to have the desires he has. It's not his fault and he is reaching out and asking for help and people are just telling him to kill himself. I'm sure none of this is helping.
    I also do not understand why people don't play on the safe side and assume he is telling the truth even if he is a troll. The internet is a cruel place.
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    You know a technique therapists use with offending pedophiles is to give them an elastic band to put round their wrist. When they feel a child related though coming on they ping the elastic band against the inside of their wrist. It hurts like a ***** and will more than aptly stop you thinking about what you were. The theory being that if your brain associates bad thoughts with pain, over time the bad thoughts will become less prominent and fade away as you think about them less. Could be worth a shot if you are getting to the stage of desperation.

    No substitute for professional help though.
    There's nothing like a bit of pop-psychology.
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    (Original post by Terraces)
    latest score from the african cup of nations:
    Ghana 8 - Ethiopia didn't.
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    (Original post by Jamz006)
    You know a technique therapists use with offending pedophiles is to give them an elastic band to put round their wrist. When they feel a child related though coming on they ping the elastic band against the inside of their wrist. It hurts like a ***** and will more than aptly stop you thinking about what you were. The theory being that if your brain associates bad thoughts with pain, over time the bad thoughts will become less prominent and fade away as you think about them less. Could be worth a shot if you are getting to the stage of desperation.

    No substitute for professional help though.
    Have you ever watched A Clockwork Orange? Kind of the extreme, disturbing version of that therapy lol
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    (Original post by gingergooner)
    Point taken. What I was trying to get across is I don't think its a natural progression, lets take a step back in my argument. Through influence or through genetic makeup, somewhere we have picked up what we are attracted to through normal reproductive qualities. If someone is male but is attracted to other males they have somehow (once again through influence or genes) picked up a female characteristic. But to be attracted to children, who neither have secondary sexual characteristics that are naturally attractive to us (originally for reproductive purposes) nor can they feel the same attraction in return came out of nowhere and tells me it is something more deepseated. In some societies it has become the norm, yes, but in some societies slavery has been the norm. Perhaps it is through religious or protective reasons, but I am not willing to accept it as a normal sexual attraction.

    At the end of the day, who is able to judge? We can't possibly know. Also in our society it is possibly the amount of abuse children have endured that have led us to believe that paedophilia is wrong, whereas it didn't take gay rape for homosexuality to be discovered.
    I take your points... interesting. What I would say is, you say males fancying males is a result of males picking up the female characteristic of fancying males (I think there's some truth to that, but it's not the whole story)... well, adults fancying children could therefore be the result of them picking it up liking children from childhood - something that's never left them. I mean look at Jacko. Wanted to be forever young, and therefore was attracted to children. Again, I don't think that's the whole story but there's probably some truth to it. It would serve no evolutionary purpose, I agree, but then I don't think evolution 'thinks' in this way.

    I think the issue is massively complicated. Things like 'normal' and 'abnormal' start to lose meaning when you think about them enough in relation to all the issues. I mean, there is no definite, absolute, 'normal'. I do believe though that child sexual abuse is the source of massive suffering in our society, and is definitely morally wrong, at least by our standards.
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    Voluntary castration works apparently, some paedo's have opted for it in.....czech republic.....apparently it helps.

    Check it out

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ate/index.html
    (this refers to it loosely)
    http://www.czechnewsdaily.com/post/1...er-visit-to-cr



    Other countries:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...astration.html
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...edophiles.html
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    Regardless of whether it's genetic or not, don't you think that the fact the OP is actually trying to do something about it is a start? At the end of the day even if this is something controllable, it's not exactly going to be easy. There are far worse people around who actually act on these desires and don't give a ****. At least the OP understands that it's wrong and is trying to change, if nothing else. Stupid comments being insulting and telling him (sorry, I don't mean to assume, feel free to have a go at me if you aren't male) to kill himself are hardly constructive. The fact that we judge someone so harshly even though they are making the effort to change is pathetic. Try and be more supportive and save the attitude for people who actually deserve it, i.e. people who act on these things and don't care.
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    (Original post by Jamz006)
    You know a technique therapists use with offending pedophiles is to give them an elastic band to put round their wrist. When they feel a child related though coming on they ping the elastic band against the inside of their wrist. It hurts like a ***** and will more than aptly stop you thinking about what you were. The theory being that if your brain associates bad thoughts with pain, over time the bad thoughts will become less prominent and fade away as you think about them less. Could be worth a shot if you are getting to the stage of desperation.

    No substitute for professional help though.
    haha, sounds like a clockwork orange! My mate did this to stop smoking... Maybe worth a go. I think i will see a professional though
 
 
 
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