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  • View Poll Results: Do girls self delude?
    I am a guy and i think so!
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    I am a guy and i disagree.
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    I am a girl and i think so!
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    35.96%
    I am a girl and disagree.
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    I have no opinion / i don't give a damn / you sexist misogynist pig etc etc
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    To be fair, you're the one who said you didn't like pulses, which, let's be honest, is pretty abnormal, socially frowned upon and potentially a sign of mental instability.
    So tis not my fault!

    BUT, luckily for you, I'm not actually mean so you can get a good night's sleep without worrying about cyberbullying on a student forum.



    For tonight.
    Lol, thanks for the laugh. G'nite .
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    Pulses are a no go area for me, sorry.
    the game "dead or alive" shouls suit you :awesome:
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    And unless friendly is a euphemism for "my vagina opens to everybody" your profile lies
    It really should but the teeth seem to scare away potential suitors :sigh:
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    It really should but the teeth seem to scare away potential suitors :sigh:
    I'm sure you, as a med student (and a generally functioning human being, unless you're one of those 'i have to eat and poo through tubes' types), are well aware of alternative entrances?
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    I'm sure you, as a med student (and a generally functioning human being, unless you're one of those 'i have to eat and poo through tubes' types), are well aware of alternative entrances?
    Well yes, but fortunately, unlike you, I don't resort to creeping around hospitals searching for unconscious taxpaying members of the British public so I can stick it up the IV drip.
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    (Original post by GdotL)
    Well yes, but fortunately, unlike you, I don't resort to creeping around hospitals searching for unconscious taxpaying members of the British public so I can stick it up the IV drip.
    You're lucky i'm an idiot, otherwise i'd be schooling you with better insults.

    /spam.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    You're lucky i'm stupid, otherwise i'd be schooling you with better insults.
    Internet socialising error #146 : Don't admit to being something that the person has previously admitted not finding attractive (ref: 'lack of intelligence' and in this very thread!).

    Dude, I wish you every success in finding a corpse to smash anyway!Just make sure she didn't use to be....*shock horror* right wing or anything...

    Glad you said you were gonna go to bed but evidently couldn't resist me.
    I feel minorly loved tbh.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    Would you venture so far as saying there is a clear divide, or that some do both?

    And where would you put yourself :p:
    I think some do both, i.e- they might believe they're intelligent but think they're ugly, when they're neither. However, usually I find they're either one or the other. It probably comes down to a self-esteem issue; if they have negative feelings about their looks they're more inclined to feel negatively about other things, and vice versa.

    Personally, I'd like to think I don't delude myself :rolleyes: but it's possible that I do it subconsciously. If anything I'd be on the positive side, I suppose. But I'm pretty happy how I am, so as far as I'm aware I don't believe myself to be something I'm not. I admit my faults, and am aware of my positive points, so hopefully I'm not too deluded. :p:
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    I agree with you up to a point, of course you cannot generalise and say all girls are self deluded.

    "self delude to protect their feelings" - Explain. What's your understanding of self-delusion here?

    "how girls are often nice to each other as friends, whereas guys try to be honest and direct" - If you mean by perhaps sugarcoating then that could possibly be explained by the fact that females tend to focus on feelings. Rather than you average guy being honest and direct therefore focusing on the solution...the girl may want to put things or behave in a nice way because it makes her friend feel good. Who is actually being nice is an entirely different question.
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    I dont know any girl who's comfortable with herself, or a least, willing to admit that she is. But I feel this pressure to look great and be amazing at everything you are and do stems from other women, rather than men. Your friend has probably been talking to the very, very few supremely confident girls.

    With regards to girls being "nice" towards their friends - I think girls are much more aware of feelings and emotions than guys. Most of us will find it hard to be direct if there's an inkling it will result in hurt. Plus, being girls, we know what we're like. We know there are certain things we dont appreciate hearing.
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    How common is a "realistic self-image" amongst anyone?

    I suggested the flip side, where girls often have an oddly depreciative self image (i'm so ugly, i'm really fat etc), and the fact that this seems to be generally missing from most guys.
    Is it missing, or is it just taboo?

    We also talked about how girls tend to self delude to protect their feelings
    What does this refer to?

    girls are often nice to each other as friends, whereas guys try to be honest and direct.
    As a generalisation I would say this is probably true, if generalisations can ever be true. However there are many exceptions, probably almost as many as there are rules, me being one. The funny thing is that even if you are naturally a blunt person, you will probably tend to err on the side of tact when interacting with people whose style is not that of bluntness. When, of course, you aren't avoiding them like the plague.
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    [quote=littleshambles]As a generalisation I would say this is probably true, if generalisations can ever be true./quote] Since when is it rare for generalisations to be untrue (which is what you're implying)? It's so annoying for people to say "But that's a generalisation" or "you can't use generalisations." The purpose of a generalisation is to make a statement about the majority of something, or the general behaviour, or whatever. It isn't meant to be a total and absolute description. It isn't even necessarily meant to be accurate.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    (Original post by littleshambles)
    As a generalisation I would say this is probably true, if generalisations can ever be true.
    Since when is it rare for generalisations to be untrue (which is what you're implying)? It's so annoying for people to say "But that's a generalisation" or "you can't use generalisations." The purpose of a generalisation is to make a statement about the majority of something, or the general behaviour, or whatever. It isn't meant to be a total and absolute description. It isn't even necessarily meant to be accurate.
    I don't see how that's what I'm implying at all. I just accepted that generalisations can be useful and "true" in a sense (but not really absolutely or in a way that is true for every member of the set that's being generalised which was all that my qualifier said, but that was hardly the main point of what I was saying or important in any way whatsoever) in principle when I outright said that as a generalisation this is probably true. I'm as unmoved by "but that's a generalisation!" as you are.
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    I think so, but I think guys do it just as much. Actually I think it's a completely normal human trait. It is particularly prominent in children. Then, as people get older they start to realise how ordinary they really are.
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    I think everyone self-deludes :P

    Very few people have a realistic image of themselves, or for that matter, have the same self-image as what everybody else thinks of them (whether it's more negative, or more positive or just different)

    Needs poll option for: Everybody is in the self-delusion market
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    (Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
    Tbh I don't think anyone could be more cruel and negative about me then I am to myself. :dontknow:
    :ditto:

    That said, if my friends asked my opinion on something such as what they're wearing etc i'm less likely to make a negative comment about it. But i'd rather they were honest with me..
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    This is why I have my girls only one way: unconscious.
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    I'm hard on myself, whether I'm around people or not. :dontknow:
    I don't know any girl who is that confident with herself tbh, unless everyone is lying. :eyeball:
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    I'd be inclined to say that both males and females are very self-delusional. I don't think it's just a female trait at all. I can think of a lot of guys who big themselves up and seem to convince themselves (and everyone else) that they're greater than they are. Females are perhaps more inclined to do the opposite - convince themselves that they're not as good as they are. This could perhaps explain why men are more likely to ask for a raise at work or push for a promotion when, by contrast, women don't seem to ask for that kind of thing nearly as much. (Just to add: there are lots of cases where this don't hold true at all but i think as a general thought it is true)

    I don't think anybody can genuinely say that they're self delusional and insecure though because if they know that they're better than they say/think they are... then they don't actually think they're that bad at all. We all think we have a realistic opinion of ourselves, and anyone who claims to be insecure or arrogant doesn't make any sense. :p:
 
 
 
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