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Nick Griffin on Haiti watch

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    (Original post by Rucklo)
    Your quite clearly are a fool, here it costs 10 times more for anything there than it does there, therefore the homeless and people in serious poverty here are in the same situation.

    And it is just common sense to use your own countries money on your own countries people first.
    The vast majority of our money does go toward our own social security...

    (Original post by Rucklo)
    What? Go outside now with just your clothes and you try sleeping and living with no money and comeback and tell me they don't need it.

    Yes 6 million would do a hell of a lot.
    Over here people actually have an opportunity to get themselves off the streets. We have several support systems for these people. No British citizen has to sleep rough for too long -- no matter what their circumstances. Moreover, this is especially true for children. What about the injured, homeless children in Haiti whose parents have died?

    The comparison to homeless people in a country with no infrastructure or government that has just been ravaged by a terrible earthquake, is entirely tactless.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    **** off all you pretentious ***** who think that you're being an amazing person because you advocate spending other people's money to help less than one percent of the amount of people in poverty in the world while simultaenously doing **** all for anyone else who's in poverty.
    So charity workers who go abroad to help somewhere are pretentious ***** because they are not capable of going to every country in the world?
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    (Original post by Tetrahydro)
    Over here people actually have an opportunity to get themselves off the streets. We have several support systems for these people. No British citizen has to sleep rough for too long -- no matter what their circumstances. Moreover, this is especially true for children. What about the injured, homeless children in Haiti whose parents have died?

    The comparison to homeless people in a country with no infrastructure or government that has just been ravaged by a terrible earthquake, is entirely tactless.
    Explain these systems... go on..
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    (Original post by Rucklo)
    What lmao?

    No a large percentage of the homeless are mentally ill, been abused, mis-treated and ****** around with.

    Sure a few then turn to drink to keep them going, who can ******* blame then when it's -10 and your lying outside?

    Please come back when you know ANYTHING about the homeless.
    It still doesn't mean you can't divert money to an earthquake situation. There will still be money for people who are homeless, even after UK give aid to haiti...These homeless people would says get aid...with Haiti as soon as the cameras go the money goes with it.
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    (Original post by NoFunnyBusiness)
    It still doesn't mean you can't divert money to an earthquake situation. There will still be money for people who are homeless, even after UK give aid to haiti...These homeless people would says get aid...with Haiti as soon as the cameras go the money goes with it.
    What money do the homeless get from the government exactly?
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    At least the homeless are alive, and the majority of them will still be living next week.

    Thousands of people in Haiti will be lucky if they see Monday morning.

    Although I agree that money has to be spent in Britain, I think we need to prioritise as a nation, and instead of spending money on people to get their lives back on track (which we can do next month anyway), we should spend money saving the lives of those who have no food, water or shelter.

    It's only humane right?
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    (Original post by Rucklo)
    Explain these systems... go on..
    Lol... charities for the homeless, advice and support units, benefits, council homes, homeless shelters, plenty of unskilled jobs about, the list goes on...

    A lot of homeless people here just choose to be jobless so they can sit around all day on park benches drinking bottles of cider...
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    (Original post by Kreuzuerk)
    Yeah, I'd agree with that. Anyone who thinks that they're automatically amazing for donating during times like this but doing nothing for the rest of the year, is a bit of a ****.
    I read some pretentious message on facebook the other day. It went something like this:

    "As you know, our little princess Mollie will be turning three next week. We'd like to ask all the parents of children who are coming to Mollie's birthday party not to buy any presents but instead give a donation to Oxfam's Haiti Appeal. It's at times like these we really realise how lucky and blessed we are"

    I wonder of Mollie agrees.:rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    **** off all you pretentious ***** who think that you're being an amazing person because you advocate spending other people's money to help less than one percent of the amount of people in poverty in the world while simultaenously doing **** all for anyone else who's in poverty.
    My friend, I salute you.

    Whatsmore, it pisses me off that the ***** who think they think they're amazing people for doing this then proceed to think they have the Godgiven right to lecture everyone else about 'humanity' and 'being heartless'.

    To them I say **** off.
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    Holy crap!, theres just been an 8.5 magnitude earthquake in Salford!
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    (Original post by Doughboy)
    So you consider every single person in the British population your brother, even though you don't know most of them? :rolleyes:
    I care more about British lives than Haitian ones. Kill me.

    And you can compare the (small) number of people who are dying from the cold here to the numbers in Haiti. If it wasn't obvious, the thousands of victims of the Haitian earthquake need the money more than ever. That's why the British Government is helping them. Durrrr!
    Tbf, lot's of people need money.

    And I'm going to play the card you just played: suppose you had many relatives in Haiti, would you be rambling on about where the British Government's money should go?
    Read what I said about Palestine above ^^^
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    (Original post by loki276)
    so the lives of people in Haiti are worthless compared to people who are living in poverty who by international standards aren't really poor, makes a lot of sense

    Seriously when will people stop being so nationalistic and accept that Human beings are a race and should help each other?

    :woo:
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    (Original post by Tetrahydro)
    Lol... charities for the homeless, advice and support units, benefits, council homes, homeless shelters, plenty of unskilled jobs about, the list goes on...

    A lot of homeless people here just choose to be jobless so they can sit around all day on park benches drinking bottles of cider...
    Charities is not the government
    You need a fixed address for a job
    Benefits are useless because you have no way of getting a home from them
    Homeless don't get council houses but teenagers who **** like rabbits do
    So yeah, what do you know?
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    Oh Nick you just gotta love the poor guy :rofl:
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    I don't agree with Nick, yes there is poverty here but it doesn't help when we see British people doing the following:
    http://www.gm.tv/shopping/43855-brit...-in-sales.html
    January sales splurging
    Last updated: 11 Jan 2010

    * Almost £2 billion spent in the January sales on purchases considered 'a waste of money'
    * 57% of women who shop in January sales have bought clothes that they never wear
    * One in 10 women buy clothes a size too small in the hope of losing weight – but don't
    * Almost £5 billion will be spent in the January sales in the UK this year as shoppers defy the recession and start the new decade with some serious splurging.


    Roger Edwards, proposition director at Bright Grey commented: "Christmas can be enough of a strain, without adding huge bills for impulse purchases in the sales. Games consoles, designer clothes, TVs - people always manage to justify these big ticket items as being bargains.


    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle24391.htm

    Haitian Earthquake:

    Why the Blood Is on Our Hands

    ''The U.S. has been all about tough love ever since. We twice deposed the populist and popular democratically-elected president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The second time, in 2004, we even gave him a free flight to the Central African Republic! (He says the CIA kidnapped him, but whatever.) Hey, he needed a rest. And it was kind of us to support a new government formed by former Tonton Macoutes.

    Yet, despite everything we've done for Haiti, they're still a fourth-world failed state on a fault line.

    And still, we haven't given up. American companies like Disney generously pay wages to their sweatshop workers of 28 cents an hour.

    What more do these ingrates want?''


    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/011310.html

    Announcing emergency help for Haiti after a devastating 7.0-magnitude earthquake, President Barack Obama noted America’s historic ties to the impoverished Caribbean nation, but few Americans understand how important Haiti’s contribution to U.S. history was.

    Recent Republican administrations have been particularly hostile to the popular will of the impoverished Haitian masses. When leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide was twice elected by overwhelming margins, he was ousted both times – first during the presidency of George H.W. Bush and again under President George W. Bush.

    Washington’s conventional wisdom on Haiti holds that the country is a hopeless basket case that would best be governed by business-oriented technocrats who would take their marching orders from the United States.

    However, the Haitian people have a different perspective. Unlike most Americans who have no idea about their historic debt to Haiti, many Haitians know this history quite well. The bitter memories of Jefferson and Napoleon still feed the distrust that Haitians of all classes feel toward the outside world.

    “In Haiti, we became the first black independent country,” Aristide once told me in an interview. “We understand, as we still understand, it wasn’t easy for them – American, French and others – to accept our independence.”
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    (Original post by Rucklo)
    What money do the homeless get from the government exactly?
    Not from the damn government, I said charities. the Government is stupid it spends more money on benefits than it recieves...their benefits system isn't idiot prove
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    (Original post by Rucklo)
    So charity workers who go abroad to help somewhere are pretentious ***** because they are not capable of going to every country in the world?
    You don't seem to understand the difference between charity and taxation. http://dictionary.reference.com/
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    (Original post by Magic_007)
    I don't agree with Nick, yes there is poverty here but it doesn't help when we see British people doing the following:
    http://www.gm.tv/shopping/43855-brit...-in-sales.html
    January sales splurging
    Last updated: 11 Jan 2010

    * Almost £2 billion spent in the January sales on purchases considered 'a waste of money'
    * 57% of women who shop in January sales have bought clothes that they never wear
    * One in 10 women buy clothes a size too small in the hope of losing weight – but don't
    * Almost £5 billion will be spent in the January sales in the UK this year as shoppers defy the recession and start the new decade with some serious splurging.


    Roger Edwards, proposition director at Bright Grey commented: "Christmas can be enough of a strain, without adding huge bills for impulse purchases in the sales. Games consoles, designer clothes, TVs - people always manage to justify these big ticket items as being bargains.


    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle24391.htm

    Haitian Earthquake:

    Why the Blood Is on Our Hands

    ''The U.S. has been all about tough love ever since. We twice deposed the populist and popular democratically-elected president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The second time, in 2004, we even gave him a free flight to the Central African Republic! (He says the CIA kidnapped him, but whatever.) Hey, he needed a rest. And it was kind of us to support a new government formed by former Tonton Macoutes.

    Yet, despite everything we've done for Haiti, they're still a fourth-world failed state on a fault line.

    And still, we haven't given up. American companies like Disney generously pay wages to their sweatshop workers of 28 cents an hour.

    What more do these ingrates want?''


    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/011310.html

    Announcing emergency help for Haiti after a devastating 7.0-magnitude earthquake, President Barack Obama noted America’s historic ties to the impoverished Caribbean nation, but few Americans understand how important Haiti’s contribution to U.S. history was.

    Recent Republican administrations have been particularly hostile to the popular will of the impoverished Haitian masses. When leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide was twice elected by overwhelming margins, he was ousted both times – first during the presidency of George H.W. Bush and again under President George W. Bush.

    Washington’s conventional wisdom on Haiti holds that the country is a hopeless basket case that would best be governed by business-oriented technocrats who would take their marching orders from the United States.

    However, the Haitian people have a different perspective. Unlike most Americans who have no idea about their historic debt to Haiti, many Haitians know this history quite well. The bitter memories of Jefferson and Napoleon still feed the distrust that Haitians of all classes feel toward the outside world.

    “In Haiti, we became the first black independent country,” Aristide once told me in an interview. “We understand, as we still understand, it wasn’t easy for them – American, French and others – to accept our independence.”
    :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Its the money people have got from working, they have the right to spend it on porn if they so wish.
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    Let's think about this:

    British Military budget is about £2 Billion.

    The bonuses RBS are getting paid is estimated to be £1.5 Billion.

    Are we seriously 'moaning' about giving only £6 million in aid?

    Don't be ridiculous.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    You don't seem to understand the difference between charity and taxation. http://dictionary.reference.com/
    I did not see the "other peoples money" part. My bad :yes:.
 
 
 
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