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    Hey all,

    I am currently a 1st year BSc Psychology undergraduate at the University of Exeter - I was very interested in Psychology before coming to university, and still am .. although since being here, I have realised that I am for more interested in the biological, anatomical functioning of the body (particularly the brain and nervous system) as opposed to cognitive processes.

    It's a long time away yet, but I was intending on applying for graduate entry medicine upon graduation of my Psychology degree. However, I do have a few questions that I hope some might be able to help me with;

    First of all, I was looking into the armed forces cadetship, and the only information I can find refers to being funded for the last three years of an undergraduate medical degree, and then doing the FY1, FY2, etc training in the army before joining the army as a medic of some description. But what about graduate entry? Is there any way of signing up for a cadetship in this instance - because the structure of the final three years is essentially the same as the 5/6 year route, right? However the NHS pays for the final three years of tuition fees normally, so what would happen there?

    Also, with regards to the specialisation training whilst in the army, is it limited to only specific ones which relate to the army? i.e. trauma, A&E, etc .. because I had a strong interest in Neurology but I wasn't sure if I could be training in this area within the Army.

    Finally (you'll be glad to hear!), since I want to join the cadetship upon the final 3 years of my (hopeful) Grad entry med degree, is there any funding I could get now in my current degree? i.e. "Hi, I'm doing a psych degree, but after this I'm going to do a medical degree and join the army - money please?"

    Thanks for reading and any help is appreciated
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    Graduate entry medicine is an undergraduate degree, so you do qualify.

    The military need doctors almost all specialities - medics, surgeons and anaesthetists, however they will tell you what they need and you will be expected to fill that need.

    Possibly funding you could get now depends on how much you want to commit and how much you want to be an infantry officer, I'd go talk to an AFCO about it, but don't be too surprised if they don't give you the most definitive answer.
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    Hey Renal, thanks for the reply.

    I know that graduate entry medicine is for an undergraduate degree, but I just didn't know if they accepted this for the cadetship since the structure is slightly different. For example, on a couple grad entry medical degrees I've seen in the UK, the first 18 months is used for studies, seminars, etc and the last 30 months are regarded as equal to that of the 5/6 year medical course - spent in clinical settings. Therefore, the Army says they will fund your last 3 years at uni (implying the clinical years) whereas this period only lasts for 2 1/2 years on the grad course.

    Also - are the armed forces able to train you up to a consultant level in a specific field? i.e from FY1 all the way up to ST7 so that when you leave the Army, you are a fully qualified consultant doctor who can apply for consultant level NHS posts?
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    (Original post by jakeuk1)
    Therefore, the Army says they will fund your last 3 years at uni (implying the clinical years) whereas this period only lasts for 2 1/2 years on the grad course.
    I'm not too sure on the specifics, I'm pretty sure that they would fund you the same (or at least similar) as the 5-year-course students. Somebody else on here, or a specialist AFCO may be able to provide the details.


    Also - are the armed forces able to train you up to a consultant level in a specific field? i.e from FY1 all the way up to ST7 so that when you leave the Army, you are a fully qualified consultant doctor who can apply for consultant level NHS posts?
    Yes, they are if you hang around long enough. But you can leave whenever your contract is up and apply for jobs in the NHS at whatever level you reached in the military.
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    this is my understanding of it...


    in regards to will the army give you any money now because of your plans: the answer in short is no. well not for your degree. they only train/fund for cirtain degrees (e.g. engineering, biomed science) and when you graduate you have to work 2 years full time in the force(by contract).

    i dont know if that made sense or if it even helpped.
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    Jake, I am in exactly the same boat as you.

    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    they only train/fund for cirtain degrees (e.g. engineering, biomed science)
    Ballerinabetty, please to expand on MOD funding of Biomed Science.

    Thanks
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    usually if you enter the armed forces already trainned in health care or trainning in health care they require you to sign a 2-6 year contract (the army choose the contract length not you)
    Eh?
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    (Original post by Spears)
    Jake, I am in exactly the same boat as you.



    Ballerinabetty, please to expand on MOD funding of Biomed Science.

    Thanks
    my brother, who is doing engineering in the army says the MOD will pay you to do the degree if you dedicate so much time to the army as a full time soldier.

    mod site: says you need to do 4 years service
    http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/jobs/Page...f328&category=

    advantages are: you only need 2 alevels and you will get to work in nhs hospitals while training.
    but remember 4 years service and if we go to war, during that time, you have to go by law: its contracted in to your agreement.
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    my brother, who is doing engineering in the army says the MOD will pay you to do the degree if you dedicate so much time to the army as a full time soldier.

    mod site: says you need to do 4 years service
    http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/jobs/Page...f328&category=

    advantages are: you only need 2 alevels and you will get to work in nhs hospitals while training.
    but remember 4 years service and if we go to war, during that time, you have to go by law: its contracted in to your agreement.
    I Have absolutly no problem with a contract, the army is where I'm heading eventually (as a Doctor).

    That link however is about joining the army and then doing BioMed, if i read it correctly - Thats not what I'm after.

    thanks, and apologies if i'm wrong (don't think I am though)

    Edit: After re-reading your post, you kinda knew that already
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    (Original post by Spears)
    I Have absolutly no problem with a contract, the army is where I'm heading eventually (as a Doctor).

    That link however is about joining the army and then doing BioMed, if i read it correctly - Thats not what I'm after.
    thanks, and apologies if i'm wrong (don't think I am though)

    Edit: After re-reading your post, you kinda knew that already
    yea i did already know that. basically unless you join the army they will not pay for your studies.

    my brother joined to do his BCs in engineering and he did his basic training part time (in TA). it took him about 6months that way though.

    did you expect to get the funding and not have to join the army?
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    but remember 4 years service and if we go to war, during that time, you have to go by law: its contracted in to your agreement.
    Jesus wept, you're actually being serious, aren't you?

    Give your head a wobble, and stop posting.
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    did you expect to get the funding and not have to join the army?
    Lul Wut?

    Ofcourse not:mob:
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    (Original post by FiveFiveSix)
    Jesus wept, you're actually being serious, aren't you?

    Give your head a wobble, and stop posting.
    oh yes i will do what you say because you own me.

    if you know so much why dont you tell OP or are you just sticking around because the title said 'armed forces' and you thought coz your sig has soliders in it you should post.

    my brother is doing degree in the army and this is a condition on his contract.... maybe its not for everyone.

    oh no i posibly made a mistake why dont you shoot me with your little army gun.
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    (Original post by Spears)
    Lul Wut?

    Ofcourse not:mob:
    sorry that was not ment to be offensive. :o:
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    no worries :thumbsup:
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)
    oh no i posibly made a mistake why dont you shoot me with your little army gun.
    FiveFiveSix was an infantry soldier, so stfu woman (also; get back in the kitchen, make me a sammich, et cetera, et cetera).
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    Well this was a very productive thread ...

    Umm, thanks?
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    (Original post by jakeuk1)
    Well this was a very productive thread ...

    Umm, thanks?
    Have you thought of reapplying to undergraduate medicine for your second year? Don't know if this is possible for medicine, but I'm sure with Psych. you have credits that can be transferred to a medical degree.
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    (Original post by ballerinabetty)

    did you expect to get the funding and not have to join the army?
    I went to a variety of meetings about RAF funding and you can actually get funding and not join the RAF in the end. They do try deter you from this by strict selection before giving you any money, only about 10 people get anything. I am guessing with the number 10, but it wasn't a lot. They also take away some of your money if you don't join the army, I'm not remembering very well, but I kind of remember that you get some of your tuition fees and then some more money for books and things which is about a lot of money that I can't remember the actual amount. You don't have to repay tuition fees, but you do have to repay book money, which from what I remember, is over £2000.
    You can also apply for a lump sum of money and you have no obligation to join the RAF, I think those go up to the value of £700?
    Screening takes form of application process, interviews and physical tests. I got really excited about the possibility, but one of my eyes can't see well enough, so although I would be able to be a doctor in the RAF after qualifying, I wouldn't be able to get any grants from them beforehand because their screening process uses that sort of thing as an easy way to whittle people down.

    I'm sorry I'm not very exact here!
    But, I contacted 'Squadron leader Tate' (?) about it and went to meetings at the RAF careers office in Sheffield. It was in the summer, forgive me!

    I realise this is about RAF and not the army, but, I figured they would both act in similar ways.
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