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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    Your 'honest opinion' was the same 'honest opinion' about homosexuals less than 50 years ago.

    Paedophiles do not need to be treated for anything. They have a sexual attraction to children, but that does not mean they are a threat to children. I have a sexual attraction to women, but I am not a threat to them, and the same is true of a vast majority of paedophiles.

    People who actually molest children should be punished, but the line between child molesters, and paedophiles is as clear cut as the line between straight men, and straight men who rape women.

    Paedophilia is not a problem. Child molestation is. Paedophiles should be left in peace. Child molestors should be dealt with. Paedophiles are treated too harshly. Child molesters are not treated harshly enough. Paedophiles are normal, functioning members of society. Child molesters are delinquents.

    People, please mark the difference between these two very different groups of people in the same way that you mark the difference between men who are attracted to women, and men who rape women.
    I agree with what you're saying, but there's the important distinction that someone who is attracted to men or women can legally satisfy that attraction, either through relationships or pornography. Even when homosexuality was illegal or vilified people were still able to have legitimate relationships, albeit in secret. For someone who is attracted to children no legal or morally acceptable outlet of this kind exists.

    While I'm by no means saying that this makes abuse more likely, surely the repression of these emotions can have an adverse effect on the person and their psychology? The media and public perception of paedophiles must surely have a negative effect on those who are attracted to children but do not act on it.
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    (Original post by Preasure)
    I agree with what you're saying, but there's the important distinction that someone who is attracted to men or women can legally satisfy that attraction, either through relationships or pornography. Even when homosexuality was illegal or vilified people were still able to have legitimate relationships, albeit in secret. For someone who is attracted to children no legal or morally acceptable outlet of this kind exists.

    While I'm by no means saying that this makes abuse more likely, surely the repression of these emotions can have an adverse effect on the person and their psychology? The media and public perception of paedophiles must surely have a negative effect on those who are attracted to children but do not act on it.
    This is a valid point which makes it all the more important that we immediately STOP this witch-hunt for paedophiles.

    Paedophiles exist in many varieties, and have varying levels of self control, just like anybody of any other sexual persuasion. Many have a firm grasp of themselves which allows them to use their self control to stop them from acting on urges. Others may use pseudo-child porn to satisfy themselves - either cartoon child porn, or porn of over-18s who look younger than they are. Others may not be so good at this and may, as you say, suffer as a result of their repressed urges.

    There should be official, trustworthy and sympathetic channels for such people to get support. Not treatment, but support. So long as we continue to act like an angry mob, such a thing will never be available to moral, functioning members of society who are struggling to deal with an attraction to children, and it may well be correct to say that this may lead to some paedophiles who are weaker-minded than others ending up doing something regrettable. Our mob attitude is helping no-one, and probably only making matters worse for everybody involved.
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    Clearly none of the people here who are saying peadophiles deserve 'support' or less of a social stigma attached to them have ever met someone who's been sexually abused as a child (or been abused themselves). Once you've seen how terribly this affects people's lives, I guarantee you will completely change your mind about this issue.
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    I don't think paedo's are treated harshly, at least in the UK we don't have the death penalty anymore.
    I think he chose to do things his way which is wrong and is punishable by the consequences. But I wouldn't like to think I'm living with a paedo next door. :eek:
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    I think being a paedophile is worse than being a murderer. I'd rather a kid die than be raped and have to live with it for the rest of their lifes....just my opinion.


    Edit- I knew a girl that got raped at the age of three, he more or less got away with it because of people like you. =(
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    (Original post by EmiPark)
    I think being a paedophile is worse than being a murderer. I'd rather a kid die than be raped and have to live with it for the rest of their lifes....just my opinion.


    Edit- I knew a girl that got raped at the age of three, he more or less got away with it because of people like you. =(
    Would you rather that girl be dead than be alive and possibly have a bright future?
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    (Original post by EmiPark)
    I think being a paedophile is worse than being a murderer. I'd rather a kid die than be raped and have to live with it for the rest of their lifes....just my opinion.


    Edit- I knew a girl that got raped at the age of three, he more or less got away with it because of people like you. =(
    Murderer - Killed at least one person.
    Pedo - Sexually attracted to children.

    Are you being serious about a murderer being worse? Really?
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    IMHO, paedophiles suffer from a mental illness. They need to be helped and cured primarily, even if they've committed an offence, although obviously if they have committed an offence then they need to be treated in a secure location.
    It varies, most have a choice of whether or not to molest kids. Sexual attraction to children itself is not necessarily a mental illness, people develop sexual feelings or behaviours towards children. It's much more a potentially harmful perversion, people become attracted to kids, they have a sexual lust to satisfy.
    Hard to tell how these things develop, but many paedophiles were themselves sexually molested, for some it's a learned behaviour. Dad molests son. Boy goes on to develop and act out paedophilic behaviour as an adult, after all that's what his father did to him at his age. Some learn it that way, subconsciously or not. Yet people can either get help or act upon their perversion. Of course, some don't even believe it's wrong, having been sexualised as a child. Some will even think that the child enjoys it. :sadnod:

    Some paedophiles can be rehabilitated more than others, some know what they're doing is harmful and that they are sexually gratifying themselves at harm to the child, whilst others make up generally unfounded self-justifications for paedophilia, and others still were never under the impression that paedophilia was wrong in the first place. Nevertheless, the punishment and/or treatment should be appropriate according to the level of implied personal responsibility.

    We have to bear in mind that the extremely negative status of paedophiles is based upon the belief, the unspoken assumption that child sexuality is a forbidden that destroys their innocence, and that people who do it are evil and rotten with bad intentions. Unfortunately this goes too far, I think. Paedophiles have such a demonic status that an educated debate about them is almost heresy.

    I think we do give paedophiles a raw deal, and the paranoid impression that every man who wants to work with kids is a potential paedophile goes way too far.
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    (Original post by CombineHarvester)
    Would you rather that girl be dead than be alive and possibly have a bright future?

    I'd rather her have been murdered than raped...but that's just what I think. She isn't going to have a bright future knowing it was her own moms boyfriend who did it and that her dad is going insane because of it.
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    (Original post by FuzzyDunlop)
    Murderer - Killed at least one person.
    Pedo - Sexually attracted to children.

    Are you being serious about a murderer being worse? Really?

    By a paedophile, it's obvious I meant, the ones that sexually abuse and rape children; I didn't put that example there for no reason.
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    no.
    no.
    no.
    Paedophiles should be treated harsher.
    child abuse is sick and immoral, enough said.
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    (Original post by EmiPark)
    By a paedophile, it's obvious I meant, the ones that sexually abuse and rape children; I didn't put that example there for no reason.
    Well you should have said 'child molester'.
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    Where are people drawing the line in this thread?

    Being attracted to jail bait?
    Being attracted to younger kids?
    Viewing underage porn?
    Viewing drawn underage porn?
    Raping a baby?
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    (Original post by FuzzyDunlop)
    Well you should have said 'child molester'.

    My example didn't make it clear enough?? Hmmm...

    Don't you feel like killing yourself, if you think that when you was a baby, toddler or child(or a younger sibling/your own baby) that a paedophile saw you and felt sexually attracted to you? And maybe they thought in their heads of being with you and god knows what else...

    It's so sick =(
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    (Original post by SamGee)
    no.
    no.
    no.
    Paedophiles should be treated harsher.
    child abuse is sick and immoral, enough said.
    Homosexuality was once considered 'immoral'.
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    (Original post by candytreeman)
    I think the link to it being genetic is interesting. Homosexuality is also supposedly genetic, yet obviously this is allowable. I'm not suggesting that the law is unjust, just that these people really need more care and specialist treatment if this is the case, and they truly can't help it any more than someone can help being gay.

    Just random thoughts based on equally random snippets of information.
    How strong is the evidence for the gay gene? Tbh, this is the first I've heard of a paedo gene. I wonder if in the future if scientists were able to provide solid evidence for the supposed 'gay' and 'paedo' genes, how it would change peoples perceptions especially of paedos (if at all?) and the way both minorities are treated.
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    (Original post by infernalcradle)
    paedos should get castrated like in eastern europe...it actually works
    You're just assuming that all paedos are male though, which isnt the case.
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    (Original post by EmiPark)
    My example didn't make it clear enough?? Hmmm...

    Don't you feel like killing yourself, if you think that when you was a baby, toddler or child(or a younger sibling/your own baby) that a paedophile saw you and felt sexually attracted to you? And maybe they thought in their heads of being with you and god knows what else...

    It's so sick =(
    I'm just trying to point out that it's wrong to imply pedos are child molesters by definition.

    All apples are fruit but does that mean all fruits are apples? No.
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    (Original post by FuzzyDunlop)
    I'm just trying to point out that it's wrong to imply pedos are child molesters by definition.

    All apples are fruit but does that mean all fruits are apples? No.

    Did you really just compare fruit to paedophiles? :p:
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    (Original post by Wanischa)
    By raping, that experience will affect that kid for the rest of it's life, so no I don't think it's too harsh.
    By killing, the child has no future. The parents feel there life is over. I think they're equally horrible, horrible things personally. One isn't less worse than the other.

    However, being simply attracted to children is a different matter. Do you think pedo's just chose to be attracted to them? Or were they born/made like that through no fault of their own?

    I agree about them getting help/support and not being vindicated because of this fact.

    edit: Oh and obv OP is some sort of pedo or someone's ******* with his account.
 
 
 
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