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St John's College, Oxford (or) Trinity College, Cambridge????

I'm planning on applying for a DPhil in History at one of them (I know you have to apply for more than one college) but which college would be better? Which University, seeing as you can only apply for one? oh, and bear in mind I'm an international student, any other experiences from other international grad students would be great to hear! :work:

Reply 1

Casshern1456

18

Cambridge for me, no proper explanation into why. But been there and it's fantastic!

Reply 2

Sequin

11

As a postgraduate, you can apply for both. There is no need to choose.

Reply 3

Schott

11

Just how sure are you that you can only apply to one of the Universities?

It is, to my knowledge, only at undergraduate level that you may only apply to one or the other. I know of students who have applied to both during the same year for masters courses. I have not heard that the rules are any different for PhDs. I am happy to be corrected though.

Reply 4

evereddy

Sequin

As a postgraduate, you can apply for both. There is no need to choose.

This.

/thread.

Reply 5

Schott

11

Oh, and from an unbiased perspective, Cambridge has been clinically proven to be objectively better. In every regard.

Reply 6

Æthelwulf

OP

Sequin

As a postgraduate, you can apply for both. There is no need to choose.

Oh, that's great to hear, I didn't realize. THANKS A HEAP

Reply 7

crackingod

7

And, btw, for a PhD you should actually choose the university that fits better with your research interest, the supervisor you would like to have and basically the course that is better suited to your academic interests.
On a side note, the two colleges you've applied to are heavily oversubscribed so you shouldn't base everything on the fact that you would get in in these specific colleges

Reply 8

Schott

11

Someone oddly negged my comment above, poorly attempting to cover themself by saying "if that was sarcasm, I don't really see it". Well, it's not sarcasm, but it is pretty clear to a normal human being that it's not serious, seeing as anyone with a hope of applying and getting in would be unquestionably aware that a College cannot be clinically tested as being generically better. Wouldn't really do this on the main thread, but when people don't leave their details you have no other choice.

EDIT: and yes, please keep re-negging if it satisfies you. At least my rebuffs evidently piss you off more than your negging does me. :smile:

Reply 9

apotoftea

19

Æthelwulf

I'm planning on applying for a DPhil in History at one of them (I know you have to apply for more than one college) but which college would be better? Which University, seeing as you can only apply for one? oh, and bear in mind I'm an international student, any other experiences from other international grad students would be great to hear! :work:

You know that there's no guarantee you'll get the college of your choice given that you apply to the faculty first? And you can apply for both.

St. John's at Oxford is one of the most popular graduate colleges (and one of the richest) and I've only ever heard good things.

How to choose however, well which faculty (if not both) has specialists in your field? Don't go by choosing a college you may not end up at - go by the most important things - location, supervisor, possible resources (if it helps) etc.

Reply 10

Æthelwulf

OP

apotoftea

You know that there's no guarantee you'll get the college of your choice given that you apply to the faculty first? And you can apply for both.

St. John's at Oxford is one of the most popular graduate colleges (and one of the richest) and I've only ever heard good things.

How to choose however, well which faculty (if not both) has specialists in your field? Don't go by choosing a college you may not end up at - go by the most important things - location, supervisor, possible resources (if it helps) etc.

Yup I know, I judged the colleges by appeal, accommodation, location and academic staff for my subject

Reply 11

hobnob

14

Æthelwulf

Yup I know, I judged the colleges by appeal, accommodation, location and academic staff for my subject

Good for you. But Potty's point was that despite all the thought you put into choosing those particular colleges, there's a good chance that even if you do get an offer you'll end up somewhere else entirely because they're both very popular choices.

Reply 12

apotoftea

19

Æthelwulf

Yup I know, I judged the colleges by appeal, accommodation, location and academic staff for my subject

You're still missing my point though - after all of that, you could still end up somewhere else because you are not automatically supervised by someone at the same college.

Your supervisor may be at say St. John's but you could be at Trinity for example.

Reply 13

Æthelwulf

OP

apotoftea

You're still missing my point though - after all of that, you could still end up somewhere else because you are not automatically supervised by someone at the same college.

Your supervisor may be at say St. John's but you could be at Trinity for example.

Yeah I know that too, I have a few others picked out from each University so all in all I probably have about 5 colleges picked from each.

Reply 14

poi12

Æthelwulf

Yeah I know that too, I have a few others picked out from each University so all in all I probably have about 5 colleges picked from each.

What you clearly don't know, is that you are not allowed to elect that many choices. 2. That's it. Choose wisely.

Reply 15

Æthelwulf

OP

poi12

What you clearly don't know, is that you are not allowed to elect that many choices. 2. That's it. Choose wisely.

Yup cool I know, just got 5 in mind and have to narrow it down, hahah that's the hard part

St John's College, Oxford (or) Trinity College, Cambridge????

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