GEM:attracts new applicant pool

I believe that GEP is a better idea then the 5yr course.
please note: med school still love there 5yr students you are all awsome. the above is more about the reasons why GEM is a good idea than who is the best or worst.

Right, firstly I must point oyut your bias, you could only apply to GEM due to your inability to get decent A levels. Furthermore the two sentences I picked out of your post, shows how utterly stupid you must be (I underlined them for you)

Oh dear. I really hope someone as narrow minded and mean as you are not actually in medical school. Boooo to you for being so nasty.

Right, firstly I must point oyut your bias, you could only apply to GEM due to your inability to get decent A levels. Furthermore the two sentences I picked out of your post, shows how utterly stupid you must be (I underlined them for you)

catagorically damning something is usually the easiest way to look stupid afterall.

sorry, she clearly is stupid.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

sorry where did you hear about my Alevel results???

sorry, she clearly is stupid.

She states x is better than y, then states at the end, I am not saying y is not as good as x.

i.e. she says

x>y
then
x≥y

on your page...

Alevel: media - B, art - C, biology - E

Thats right, during my gap year I am working as a private detective

oh yes because my profile is 100% true. your so funny.
give up the detective work... your rubbish at it.

What would be the point of lying? Do you have some sort of pathological problem with telling the truth?

Right, firstly I must point oyut your bias, you could only apply to GEM due to your inability to get decent A levels. Furthermore the two sentences I picked out of your post, shows how utterly stupid you must be (I underlined them for you)

On a personal note, does it really make sense to be taking mature applicants in large numbers, due to the reduced amount of work years they can give back to the NHS? If we say the adverage school leaver takes 15 years inc med school to become a consultant (this is very optimistic I assume) then you would get 31 years of consultancy, which does not take into account that elder doctors may not be able to perform their roles, i.e. certain surgery may not be suitable for a 60 year old of average health to perform. So what we are doing is cutting the 'value' for money to the taxpayer by almost 1/6, which is alot. Just my musings, I will allow myself to sit on the fence, catagorically damning something is usually the easiest way to look stupid afterall.

sorry, she clearly is stupid.

She states x is better than y, then states at the end, I am not saying y is not as good as x.

i.e. she says

x>y
then
x≥y

Right, firstly I must point oyut your bias, you could only apply to GEM due to your inability to get decent A levels. Furthermore the two sentences I picked out of your post, shows how utterly stupid you must be (I underlined them for you)

On a personal note, does it really make sense to be taking mature applicants in large numbers, due to the reduced amount of work years they can give back to the NHS? If we say the adverage school leaver takes 15 years inc med school to become a consultant (this is very optimistic I assume) then you would get 31 years of consultancy, which does not take into account that elder doctors may not be able to perform their roles, i.e. certain surgery may not be suitable for a 60 year old of average health to perform. So what we are doing is cutting the 'value' for money to the taxpayer by almost 1/6, which is alot. Just my musings, I will allow myself to sit on the fence, catagorically damning something is usually the easiest way to look stupid afterall.

at the end of the day I know who I want as my doctor, and its certainly not someone who has come straight from A levels!

I think (unlike you) it's just that she has some tact and was trying to be nice so as not to upset those on 5 year courses

Mate your not even at medical school. Because if you were you would KNOW that the graduate students are the more hardworking, more balanced, more interesting, and more clever than A level students! I am an A level student so I am not biased, though many of my friends are post grads!

Incredibly subjective, 'more balanced and interesting', what are you, the final arbiter of someones personality? Bare in mind, I did not describe either as better than the other in a clinical/competency/work sense.

Its not ******* hard to get A's at A level, I think back and think they were taking the piss memorising mark schemes was a sure fire way to get A's! You cant do that when you get to medical schools!

Certainly, A levels are reasonably simple, however that opens the question of why such people did not suceed the first time, I like to think it was a poor work ethos, something I also had during GCSE's.

The graduates have shown real commitment to go through three years of university most of them doing Biomedicine (one of the hardest degrees in the world). Just wait till you get here you will see the difference between us, I am a awful student compared to my post grad mates (On average the A level students are always in the bottom quartiles whereas the Grad students are always in the top quartiles) In my opinion we should move to an american system where it is a post graduate course only!

Yep, because one person and their opinion make for fact

I see you have applied to durham, all the best, though I would advise you thoroughly to change your opinion on mature medics (not to mention Durham's intake is 50% postgrads) They are exactly that and we are certainly somewhat the immature ones, and at the end of the day I know who I want as my doctor, and its certainly not someone who has come straight from A levels!

I don't have a stance on Grad medics versus normal, infact I specifically stated that The only difference I mentioned was between the two were relative cost to train versus years of service available. Frankly I find your dogmatic view on graduate medics for some reason being superior in every shape and form a bit to radical to be believable. Anyway, arguably such purported difference in behaviour is the result of graduates being older, something which school leavers will eventually see happening to them.

This comment does seem a little foolish in my humble opinion.

There may well be a difference in diligence between GEM and undergrad med students, but post graduation i don't think there is really a difference. I certainly don't know which of my colleagues are GEM and which are not just from working with them.