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    (Original post by iwilson03)
    Even cutting these two things out (which I don't think we should) it wouldn't wipe the deficit, especially not with an accompanied tax cut.
    Frankly what I find almost as scary as their inherent racism and general ignorance is the idea of one of them in charge of our economic affairs.
    Perhaps it wouldn't wipe the deficit, but you've got to admit that it would make a huge amount of difference. The UK is spending roughly a billion a year in the middle east[1], and foreign aid is set to be a 7.7 billion this year[2]. This is big money, and multiply it by 5 years, 10 years, and we're talking about serious cash.

    [1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ls-439988.html

    [2] http://www.dfid.gov.uk/Media-Room/Ne...ng-for-Africa/
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    I agree with some of their policies but disagree with the their underlying values. I believe we need to start putting ourselves first and stop getting concerned with issues and wars that do not influence us. Of course, we are currently a significant military target for many states and groups so this would need to be gradual. I am also fearsome of the cultural clashes that are occurring within Britain, especially the difference in values between the historically christian views adopted by many brits and other cultures (especially islam).
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    I wouldn't vote for the BNP, however I wouldn't have any problems with anyone that would
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    (Original post by anna_disraeli)
    yeah but by the time you're 18 why would you be any more likely to know about politics, unless you took it for a level but the majority don't.
    I think those extra 2 years life experience would help, and even if they didn't take it, they'd be more likely to resarch.

    Plus it's not like they can raise the voting age now... even if many disagree with it.
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    (Original post by wilson_smith)
    The Greens? :cry:
    The Greens are a definite maybe. I don't know enough about ALL of the possible parties to give a definite answer!
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    no no no. just a thought if the BNP came into power would they still keep northern ireland? technically it's not part of 'britain'
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    (Original post by Xica Da Silva)
    have a guess... you can do it..
    Because you're ignorant and believe the bias of the mass media?
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    (Original post by Good Apollo)
    Perhaps it wouldn't wipe the deficit, but you've got to admit that it would make a huge amount of difference. The UK is spending roughly a billion a year in the middle east[1], and foreign aid is set to be a 7.7 billion this year[2]. This is big money, and multiply it by 5 years, 10 years, and we're talking about serious cash.

    [1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ls-439988.html

    [2] http://www.dfid.gov.uk/Media-Room/Ne...ng-for-Africa/
    You completely misunderstand the need for spending in both areas. I disagree with the wars, but spending on military security is a necessity. As for foreign aid, it's morally repugnant (not to mention economically inefficient) to cut spending. The UK currently is meeting only half of what it has committed to developing countries.
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    No I wouldn't because I'm not white. I woldn't be bothered if somebody did though. I get bored with people saying how "disgusting" and "raaacist" they are, they didn't drag us into countless wars .etc.
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    (Original post by punkyrocker)
    I didn't say I admired what they believe in, I said I admired them for being honest about it.
    And that's exactly what my initial post illustrated; that they aren't even honest about it, the BNP is actively using deceit to get into government. The blog illustrates just one example of deceit being used (http://thingeh.hattix.co.uk/?p=24) by this party.
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    id vote bnp long before i voted labour.
    unfortunately we've had far too many consecutive socialist governments already, so it would be a no. it would be good for them to get a few seats to shake things up and show parliament how **** they are, and point out our displeasure in a few matters, but wouldnt want them in govt.

    not yet, anyway. maybe when the eu has even more of our powers and we have an even worse immigration problem.
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    (Original post by bawlmorian)
    For the whites out there who think they "have some good policies" or "have interesting ideas" or are "at least honest about what they believe": Tell me, how would you feel if the government pressed you to be 'repatriated' back to Germany, or France, or wherever your ancestors came from 300 years ago?
    I wouldn't mind actually.
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    (Original post by bawlmorian)
    I would never vote for the BNP.

    Let me draw out a bit what incandenza just mentioned. My girlfriend, who was born in London and has lived there her whole life, would be an outsider to her own government were the BNP to come to power. Instead of being a citizen, she'd be a subject. Why? Because she's south asian.

    For the whites out there who think they "have some good policies" or "have interesting ideas" or are "at least honest about what they believe": Tell me, how would you feel if the government pressed you to be 'repatriated' back to Germany, or France, or wherever your ancestors came from 300 years ago?

    Furthermore, and it's been said above but I'll reiterate, their economic and social policies are absolute crap. Frankly, it's a complete lack of economic knowledge to advocate shutting Britain's borders, whether physically, informationally, financially, etc. Of course cutting uni fees and such strikes a chord. Offering free money always does.

    In short, don't demolish your humanity for the sake of a few dollars that the party can't provide anyway.
    Not agreeing with them here, but don't they consider you a citizen if you've lived their you're whole life? They're more against those who can't be bothered to learn the language.

    I thought they were more about not allowing lots more immigrants in, pushing one's here out (which you're girlfriend doesn't sound like anyway).

    It's easy to brand something racist
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    just remember minorities helped build this country
    and this country stole quite a lot from them, reason being why people come here,
    for you to even consider voting for uneducated and ignorant fools makes you an idiot.
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    (Original post by Thingeh)
    And that's exactly what my initial post illustrated; that they aren't even honest about it, the BNP is actively using deceit to get into government. The blog illustrates just one example of deceit being used.
    Then I apologise. I'm obviously mixing up 'leaked' information about the BNP and things they've released themselves. Sorry.
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    (Original post by Chimaira)
    Because you're ignorant and believe the bias of the mass media?
    more along the lines of I don't want to be repatriated by a bunch of racists neither do I want to live in a state where I will be a second class citizen.

    Thanks for playing though better luck next time!


    P.S. where are you suggesting I get my infomation from?.. the bnp website :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by iwilson03)
    The others promise cuts, increased taxes etc because they have a realistic chance of winning. The BNP can propose what they want because they don't have a chance (although I never heard them proposing no uni fees?) If they ever did get into power they would not be able to deliver these things without seriously damaging another area of society.

    In answer - no.
    And the area they would damage would be the ethnic societies
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    (Original post by bawlmorian)
    I would never vote for the BNP.

    Let me draw out a bit what incandenza just mentioned. My girlfriend, who was born in London and has lived there her whole life, would be an outsider to her own government were the BNP to come to power. Instead of being a citizen, she'd be a subject. Why? Because she's south asian.

    For the whites out there who think they "have some good policies" or "have interesting ideas" or are "at least honest about what they believe": Tell me, how would you feel if the government pressed you to be 'repatriated' back to Germany, or France, or wherever your ancestors came from 300 years ago?

    Furthermore, and it's been said above but I'll reiterate, their economic and social policies are absolute crap. Frankly, it's a complete lack of economic knowledge to advocate shutting Britain's borders, whether physically, informationally, financially, etc. Of course cutting uni fees and such strikes a chord. Offering free money always does.

    In short, don't demolish your humanity for the sake of a few dollars that the party can't provide anyway.
    I think for many people, this repatriation is the bit they dont like. I think what British people (regardless of colour) want at the moment is the government to address the serious issues that are occurring as a direct result of poor or non-existent border controls. Many are also getting frustrated with a small minority of the muslim community living in this country, yet not willing to accept its values and rules.

    The BNP is one of only a few parties that seem determined to address these issues... however the methods that they are proposing are, in my opinion, morally unjust and would politically and economically destroy us...
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    Nah.
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    (Original post by bawlmorian)
    You completely misunderstand the need for spending in both areas. I disagree with the wars, but spending on military security is a necessity. As for foreign aid, it's morally repugnant (not to mention economically inefficient) to cut spending. The UK currently is meeting only half of what it has committed to developing countries.
    Of course spending on the military is necessary - when did I ever say it wasn't? The amount you spend on a WAR is far more than the amount you spend maintaining a military, both in sterling and in human life.

    Indeed, I haven't given any opinions of my own in this thread at all, I've just been telling someone where the BNP would probably get the money from if they were ever elected. I'm not suggesting we cut all foreign aid, I'm just saying that's one thing the BNP would do to fund their policies. If you disagree with it, great - you're in good company on this forum in that case.
 
 
 
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