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All-you-can-drink pub offers facing ban watch

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    I've never been to somewhere that offers all-you-can-drink
    Deprived!
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    I think drinking too much is very funny. People don't have to get a fake tan because they turn yellow from jaundice and their pee turns green! ho ho ho
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    . . . And someone said it was "ludicrous to compare Britain to Nazi germany".
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    (Original post by Blátönn)
    . . . And someone said it was "ludicrous to compare Britain to Nazi germany".
    Yeah, too right, I mean, it's only a small step between genocide and all-you-can-drink pubs, yeh?
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    (Original post by just say hello)
    they will ban all you can eat soon aswell lol
    That wouldn't be a problem with the size of some of these ******* in the UK today.
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    oh alright i'll just get smashed on the cheapest booze i can find then.
    seriously why not actually try to solve peoples drink issues instead of just tax them out of doing it.
    ******* morons the lot of them
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    (Original post by MaxTib)
    Yeah, too right, I mean, it's only a small step between genocide and all-you-can-drink pubs, yeh?
    Exactly, I'd rather have another than close all the best pubs.
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    (Original post by py0alb)
    Alcohol does not cause anti-social behaviour and violence. Anti-social and violent people cause anti-social behaviour and violence.
    Well yes (thats why I don't particulary support it), but it does exacerbate the problem. E.g. people who usually wouldn't get involved in that behaviour may do if they drink a lot.
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    It's ironic how on the one hand the government reaps revenue from the tax on alcohol and yet it wants us to drink less ale.

    Although thinktanks advocate that people drink moderately; they estimate the British people wrongly; we are not moderate in drinking alcohol. This is not Italy or France!
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    pfft yet again more revenue off taxes, and it won't solve the problem.

    What they need to do is make drunk and disorderly a more serious offensive. At the moment it might be a night in the cells to sober up, well maybe on strike one, but if you keep doing it there needs to be more serious repercussions.

    I'd also say rather then drunkenness being an excuse for behaviour, if alcohol is a mitigating factor the sentence should actually be harsher, as not only did they commit a crime, but they didn't control themselves when drinking something which everyone knows can lead to violent/unruly behaviour if you go overboard/can't handle your drink.
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    (Original post by supergirl89)
    I've never been to somewhere that offers all-you-can-drink
    Deprived!
    You're not missing much.

    I used to work in a nightclub where we ran an 'all-you-can-drink' night aka an all-inclusive night. Long story short we were basically an over 21's club catering to older couple types rather than our biggest competitor who basically catered for your general masses of youths, we had a new manager who wanted to 'liven up' our venue and introduced an all-inclusive. It was a nightmare to run on a busy night, because for own interests and to appease local authorities we had to impose some rules (i.e. 1 drink per person, every 15mins, no doubles), the rules were clear everywhere. We attracted a load of cheapskate nobs, lost all our decent older clientle with actual money to spend (I mean people who are happy to spend £3.50 on bottles of VK), had loads of people complaining about why drinks were limited (how can people not understand that we can't actually give away £100 of stock everytime you come to the bar - also the rules are EVERYWHERE so don't act surprised :facepalm:) - we had a massive increase in fights, people getting paralytic and needing ambulances and it was the only period where we had customers attacking staff (because of trying to follow rules to help prevent all this ********). Overall the night was barely profitable and had a knock on effect on other nights because we started to develop a rep, leading us to smaller footfall and spend per head. Anyway we had a revolving door of managers who were too scared to take away the night because they knew that there would be short period where we lost customers (thus making them look bad to head office). Eventually we were just shut down because of falling proffits and bad rep.

    However, some of our bars in the same company did it on their quiet nights and it generally worked out quite well for them with no real issues.

    Moral of the story - just let the market decide, I don't think our population in general is that moronic if the problems do rise that they will continue going to these nights and at the same time most companies couldn't possibly sustain/manage nights like these for long.

    The 'real' issue is that pubs/bars/clubs find it hard (impossible) to compete with supermarket prices when it comes to alcohol, coupled with the belief that people only go out to pubs/clubs for alcohol - while a (significant) 'vocal' minority do, I choose to believe what my last manager said when he asked me what it is we actually sell - 'The boy/girl experience - sex'... Supermarkets can't offer that.

    Venues offering cheap drinks are fighting a losing battle against supermarkets, they'll offer something new or we will continue to see more pubs/clubs go out of buisness.
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    (Original post by callum9999)
    Well yes (thats why I don't particulary support it), but it does exacerbate the problem. E.g. people who usually wouldn't get involved in that behaviour may do if they drink a lot.

    That's their fault, not the alcohol's fault. Thousands of people get drunk every weekend and don't cause any problems whatsoever. These people shouldn't be punished because of the anti-social behaviour of a small group.

    There are 3 types of people:

    people who are violent/anti-social when sober - punish appropriately

    people who aren't violent/anti-social when sober, but become so when drunk - punish and ban from drinking if they repeat offend

    people who aren't violent/anti-social when sober or drunk (the vast majority) - leave them alone
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    They have targeted the pub/clubs instead of the supermarkets. Most people get pissed BEFORE they go out anyway.

    This idea is such a fail.
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    (Original post by Meagz)
    They have targeted the pub/clubs instead of the supermarkets. Most people get pissed BEFORE they go out anyway.

    This idea is such a fail.
    even if it were expensive in supermarkets people would still go out and get smashed.
    they sell booze for alot less on the continent and they dont have half the problems we have.
    the problem is more that we are all bored pessimists whos only chance of socialising is drinking.
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    Its annoying that these new rules exclude beer and cider. As if people who drink beer and cider don't have drinking problems!!

    The main place where people drink too much in the UK is in their own homes. Why target bars and clubs?!
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    I dont care what the government do I will find a way to get smashed unless they ban it of course. I think the government have to do something because if they ignore the drinking problem then they will be blamed for it.
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Its annoying that these new rules exclude beer and cider. As if people who drink beer and cider don't have drinking problems!!

    The main place where people drink too much in the UK is in their own homes. Why target bars and clubs?!
    They can't target homes? Bars and Clubs is where alot of the trouble stems from especially where i live.
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    Hah, I'm so cheap I look at the £10 free bar Friday night and think "that's expensive". I normally get pissed before I go out and buy a couple of drinks when out, which tends to total to less than £10.

    Now the £5 free bar on a Wednesday is tempting considering the alternative option on a Wednesday charges £5 just to get through the door.

    Problem with doing that is I could expect very long bar queues and the "only singles, only one drink" rules will mean I spend the whole night queuing for drinks, because if I'm going sober (which you have to at these nights to get your moneys worth) I could probably drink a vodka and coke in two minutes until I've had more than a few. This makes the experience crap.

    I rather buy the supermarket alcohol, get pissed before I go out and spend the night dancing. So I certainly wouldn't miss these nights.

    It does worry me however that the government are trying to restrict alcohol. It won't be long before they go ahead with this silly 50p per unit alcohol pricing crap or try to restrict licensing hours in clubs. They seem to think pricing is the problem when it isn't. You can buy a litre of Vodka for four euros in Spain and they don't have the same problems. Putting the price of a bottle up to £20 here wouldn't make me drink any less, I'd just have to sacrifice more money on it. It only harms the poor people. The people who cause problems on a weekend are usually younger people with more disposable income.
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    (Original post by MaxTib)
    Ideally, I would like the UK to have stricter drinking laws such as in Scandinavia. I am not a teetotaller or anything of the sort. I just believe that there is a deep drinking problem in this country.
    I think your post was great, but I live in Sweden ... and you don't want it to be like it is here, trust me.

    I roll my eyes whenever people talk about the government butting out of their lives. Did you skim over the part of the article about how much heavy drinking costs the government each year? The issue is that raising the costs of drinking is a) not particularly fair and b) probably not a very effective idea. People will just drink more at home. I do think all-you-can-drink nights should be stopped though.
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    (Original post by katierattray)
    They can't target homes? Bars and Clubs is where alot of the trouble stems from especially where i live.
    They could address the price of alcohol in supermarkets though. I can't find the source now but I read that the majority of people with alcohol problems drink at home.
 
 
 
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