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    My mum told me to
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    We go to work so that we can help society to function. Everybody has their role in society whether it's a bricky, cleaner or a lawyer. What would we do without brickies and cleaners. The lawyers office would be very untidy, in fact it wouldnt even be in a building i suppose. This would make his job much harder. Everyone has to contribute. Humans are social creatures that get pleasure and enjoyment from socialising. Work for some people is behind a bar that makes socialising easier for people through providing the function of being served drinks in a place that is ment for meeting/talking with other people. The barman himself socialises with other people that work in the pub/club, so work itself is a way to fulfil our social needs.

    We go to work so that we can live. The police and other governing agencies enforces laws and rules that prevent us hitting each other with sticks for self satisfaction or as a result of greed. How enjoyable would a night out be if there was no bouncers which allowed the club to be swarming with a bunch pre-pubescent 12 year olds.

    It is also human instinct to love and procreate. Where do we meet people? People are needed to operate the condom making machine you know. It is a persons job that allows us to enjoy sex without the risk of pregnancy.

    to conclude, if there was no such thing as work, we wouldnt be able to enjoy ourselves like you (OP) said your friends should of been. Unless by enjoyment you mean running about in a completely uncivilised society/world.

    We all allow for each other to enjoy ourselves through providing a service or contributing in anyway to society.
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    (Original post by Aack)

    I would love to live off the land in a community that does the same
    Ditto

    I stay in education because that's what it takes to get by in this society.
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    (Original post by iamjackma)
    Food? R u srs?
    Shelter - the same way our ancestors made shelters.

    Utilities, I assume you mean medicine and such things?
    A fair point, although there are a plentiful number of natural remedies for things.

    And although it sounds harsh, survival of the fittest.
    Yes, because I want to live in a mud hut :rolleyes:

    and I meant utilities as in .. gas/water/electricity

    and if everyone was a workshy person, there would be no networks to supply anything
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    (Original post by Adonis)
    Right.

    Now where do you suppose the money for your;

    Shelter
    Food
    Utilities

    will come from?
    Shelter is free. Look around, there are abandoned buildings everywhere..
    Food can also be free. Supermarkets throw out huge amounts.
    We have free water. I can use electricity at friends houses and cafes.
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    (Original post by SoundDevastation)
    Shelter is free. Look around, there are abandoned buildings everywhere..
    Food can also be free. Supermarkets throw out huge amounts.
    We have free water. I can use electricity at friends houses and cafes.

    What if they turn around and say - **** off scrounger?!!

    I like my house, I like having heat, CLEAN water when I want it

    I don't wanna be no tramp like you
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    I'm at Uni to improve myself, and prove that I can dedicate myself enough to obtain qualifications. It should (in theory) help me get a job come September.

    I'll then work to pay off my debt (student loan) and so that I can earn enough money to enjoy life, and also so I can be a useful member of society. Id love to be able to life without working/sponging off society, but unfortunately it's not going to happen.

    It's just the way society is. Plus, weekends, holidays and evenings are the time you can enjoy life.
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    (Original post by Adonis)
    What if they turn around and say - **** off scrounger?!!

    I like my house, I like having heat, CLEAN water when I want it

    I don't wanna be no tramp like you
    The places I usually use electricity are places I put effort into running. I put in alot more than I take.

    haha... why do you think our water isnt clean? where do you think it comes from?!
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    I was born in a village in Bangladesh and I have visited it since, and there is;

    no electricity there
    no running water [just a tap]
    no TV
    middle of a jungle
    you get the idea

    now .. the issue is, if I was raised [well I was until I was 4] then I wouldn't have known any better and could've been perfectly happy there

    BUT why do you assume the people there don't work? if we went back to such a time the amount of time you spend just preparing a meal is equal to how many hours you would work a full time job anyway

    we didn't have the luxury of fridges, so we could buy food in bulk, so everyday you need to go out and get stuff

    "work" in this country, is nothing compared to what you would have to do if society hadn't created the technology/infrastructure so we don't all have to be farmers.
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    (Original post by SoundDevastation)
    The places I usually use electricity are places I put effort into running. I put in alot more than I take.

    haha... why do you think our water isnt clean? where do you think it comes from?!
    if you didn't work then I am assuming you couldn't pay your water bills so no easily accessible water supply

    where would you get free clean water from? would it be as a easy as turning on a tap?

    and again - cold country, where would you keep heated at winter? at say 2am
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    If I'm being totally honest...

    I go to sixth form because I want to get into a good university.
    I want to get ino a good university because I want a specific type of job.
    I want a specific type of job so I can earn lots of money and mix in certain circles.
    I want to earn lots of money so my children will have better prospects.

    Although I do love learning and I would consider myself an intellectual, the above are the real reasons deep down.
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    (Original post by SoundDevastation)
    Shelter is free. Look around, there are abandoned buildings everywhere..
    Food can also be free. Supermarkets throw out huge amounts.
    We have free water. I can use electricity at friends houses and cafes.
    Lol I don't fancy the hobo lifestyle.
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    (Original post by iamjackma)
    Right.

    Think about this.
    We spend our whole lives working.
    Nursery school, primary school, secondary school, 6th form or job, uni, further education, a job and then a retirement at age 65(ish).

    Why do we do it?!
    I appreciate to learn, and get doctors (etc.) and that some people may love there jobs / schooling.

    We've been given the gift of life though, why do we spend it doing so much labour?

    My friend and another guy died in a car crash a few weeks ago, it was in the news - it just got me thinking how they've worked their whole lives (essentially) for nothing when they could have been enjoying ever second of it.

    rant over.
    Personally I think you are absolutely right. As the band The Verve sang in their song Bittersweet Symphony: 'Cause it's a bittersweet symphony this life, trying to make ends meet, you're a slave to the money then you die".

    Judging from the responses, people just seem to say oh, I want this I want that, that's why I work. They seem to just think they have to work to live. Why can't one just live? I'm not saying everyone should just stop working - it would be complete naivety on my part to say that from what I know of economics.

    I'm just saying, the majority of people these days just don't appreciate things. They not only want such and such, they expect and demand them. Not only this, no one, as the OP aluded to, actually appreciates their lives nowadays. Most probably only work because that's what everyone else does - they never actually question.

    I am at university myself, and so you might say I'm a hypocrite. However, I've never in this post said no-one SHOULD work, I'm just appealing at any readers to question, to do something of a cost-benefit analysis on whether they think they would get more enjoyment out of working or the alternatives. Personally, I intend to probably somewhat "stockpile" as much as I can for maybe 30 odd years and then retire when I perceive there is enough to sustain me.

    It's sad that I have to do this to actually "live" my life, but that's the way the system has been set up - I certainly don't think I'll enjoy the process of having to work to sustain myself. Very sad indeed I won't get optimum enjoyment out it. It's not something I would have expected when I was born into this world.

    I can only hope robots replace us in the future.
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    Because I need money to live independently and to live the lifestyle I want to. This society is rather hard work though, I'm all for making people artificially stupid , reducing the worlds population to a healthy 2 million, and living on the stupid slaves hard work a la Brave New World but with free thinking hedonists at the top rather than hard working alphas.

    To some extent I'm there because I want more than others. If everyone had everything I had it wouldn't be much. Being mediocre has never had much appeal to me. The thought of in most conformists terms me being an idiot is pretty unacceptable. Plus it's far easier to be an alcoholic and a drug addict in a Surrey mansion than a council flat.
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    (Original post by Adonis)
    Right.

    Now where do you suppose the money for your;

    Shelter
    Food
    Utilities

    will come from?
    Quite possible to live off a part time job if you were so eco inclinced.
    You'd rent a room in a cheap house share, live off tesco basics and the food that you grow at your community allotment and wear 3 jumpers at any one time/engage in nightly orgies to keep warm and utility bills down.

    Bit of a tongue in cheek post I guess but it's possible to live outside the "need money to live" mentality if you are willing to sacrifice things you don't actually need. There's a community in devon who live in the forest and built their houses out of wood. One family has the most amazing tree house ever.
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    Because I want to make as much money as possible. More money > More fun. Money makes my world go round
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    (Original post by Adonis)
    if you didn't work then I am assuming you couldn't pay your water bills so no easily accessible water supply

    where would you get free clean water from? would it be as a easy as turning on a tap?

    and again - cold country, where would you keep heated at winter? at say 2am
    We have fresh water on tap in the building. The water company helped us sort it out, they have not yet asked for any payment.

    We have built little buildings inside the building, with sofas and wood burners where we huddle and keep warm. My bedroom is small and enclosed with two duvets on the bed. Yes its cold, but its not life threatening... we've been through the worst of the winter I hope.
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    (Original post by romeos*****)
    Quite possible to live off a part time job if you were so eco inclinced.
    You'd rent a room in a cheap house share, live off tesco basics and the food that you grow at your community allotment and wear 3 jumpers at any one time/engage in nightly orgies to keep warm and utility bills down.

    Bit of a tongue in cheek post I guess but it's possible to live outside the "need money to live" mentality if you are willing to sacrifice things you don't actually need. There's a community in devon who live in the forest and built their houses out of wood. One family has the most amazing tree house ever.
    I realise I can live/survive with the bare basics, but is that also what life is about? to get the bare minimum?

    I don't want to lead a spartan life.

    The suggestions from the 'don't work' crew is so far very hobo-like.

    I like the internet, it wouldn#t have been made possible if people were "we are content as we are"
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    in order to follow the social norm.
    this sequence in life is 'normal' those that do not follow are abnormal and hence it is undesirable
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    (Original post by Adonis)
    I realise I can live/survive with the bare basics, but is that also what life is about? to get the bare minimum?

    I don't want to lead a spartan life.

    The suggestions from the 'don't work' crew is so far very hobo-like.

    I like the internet, it wouldn#t have been made possible if people were "we are content as we are"
    Life is about living how you want to. If your the kind of person who doesnt need luxuries... then getting the most out of life is just a whole lot easier. I love my life
 
 
 
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