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    (Original post by RyanT)
    The rise in Islamism amongst Muslims is alienating British people and driving them to extremism.

    See what I did there? You're trying to imply that Muslims are the reactionaries here - when in fact they are the agents causing this change through elements of their "community" attempting to murder many British people.

    Supporting political groupings that promise to protect you from murderers is a logical choice for British people when confronted by aspiring killers in the Muslim community and the antipathy and silent support of other Muslims towards such scum - as shown by the attitude of the "Muslim police".

    The far-right also doesn't try to go around murdering people all the time. They might be a threat to "values" that the liberal tripartite in parliament pretend are universal - but to try and portray them as being equal threats is an insult to the hundreds that have died at the hands of Muslims and the thousands that will follow.
    yawwwwwwwn.

    yes my muslim neighbour always hides murderous intent when he smiles and wishes me good morning.

    The fact that you cant look at things from another perspective shows that your regurgitating far right nonsense.

    I love it how Nick Griffin and EDL complains that their "peaceful" marches end in voilence provoked by immigrants. Does he not realise that this will happen if he marches through an area with a high islamic community with banners condeming islam and such muppets as yourself shouting "**** OFF HOME PAKIS"

    Muslims are no more murderers then Christian, Hindu's and Bhuddists are. You wouldnt call all christians murderers because of the actions of the IRA would you. Instead you choose to swallow up unchallenged a bunch of crap that is largely if not completely false. You'll no doubt focus on the fact Muslim women are forced to wear Bhurkas, but I am sure that these same people are astonished and sickened that we allow young girls to get pregnant without any deterance.

    I have no affilition or loyalties to the islamic religion, nor left wing politics. However I am 100pc against ignorance, especially the type that you seem to be repeating.

    I dont agree with these "Muslim Police" and I ponder why they need their own group as it seperates them from the rest of the police. I agree with the far right in the sense that, if they don't want any discrimination, why do some of community insist on creating their own organisations. yes they may have been appropriate a couple of decades ago when we were a grossly racist country, but now its just the minority of us like yourself that insist on believing unfounded and absurd claims to fuel intolerance.

    fact is more people have died in our country from terrorist attacks by christian terror organisations from northern island. but that doesnt fit with your anti muslim theory so no doubt you'll discard it.
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    Heh; daily fail news.....lookhowsmugiam....:smug:






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    (Original post by RyanT)
    Islam isn't a race. I think you just failed in your pseudo-intellectual attempt to look smart there. It's not racist to oppose Islam. Religions are political. I oppose a politics and moral system that justifies murder.

    I find it hilarious you've brought into this idea that religions are special - when any deconstruction of a religion will essentially leave you with a grouping of political ideas. Perhaps one day you'll see the light, but I don't have my hopes up. You're too desperate to please everyone else and fit in wearing a coat of conventional morality from the media. Just wrap up tight MSB - as more British people are murdered by Muslims, it's going to get very chilly for your funny bones.
    Yeah, sure, I think "that religions are special". I'm not sure where I said that, but if it makes you feel better in attributing that view to me then go ahead. I'm sure you're right, though, since you have seen the light. The mainstream media are wrong, but fortunately you can see the light! The delusion of the masses prevents them from seeing that every Muslim is a terrorist, but it is not lost on you. You can see that every British Muslim, between going shopping and watching television takes some time out of their day to slay an infidel or two. You know the truth; the truth that British Muslims aren't human beings who maybe think that killing is wrong, and who want to live their lives in peace. No! You know that they all wish to kill British people. Thousands of deaths are to come! The millions of British Muslims will rise up! I am glad you are so enlightened, lest this country should sleepwalk into the squadrons of suicide bombers that walk our high streets. This country who, like me, have stupid ideas like "Fanatics don't represent the views of a mainstream religion" or "Most ordinary Muslims believe terrorism to be wrong" or "It is wrong to condemn a whole social group based on the actions of a fraction of their number so small to be negligible". Fortunately, we have people like you to enlighten us, to save us from the Jihad-fighter in our midst! Well done, sir. Keep it up.
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    If there's already a thread on this I apologise.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sh-values.html


    What a bunch of complete idiots. I mean seriously, how are these fools even allowed to be police officers? Britain bans BNP members from being police officers but allows idiots like this who clearly have a chip on their shoulder to join. That last bit! Haha! :rofl: Yeah because a load of BNP members blew up trains and a bus in London. "Far-Right" maniacs drove a car of explosives into an airport. And it was the same far right extremists who planned to blow up a load of transatlantic planes and commit mass murder.

    What a ******* joke.

    ps. in before "omg daily Fail! look how smug I am" retards.



    Just to add:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-attacks.html



    So not only do they ignore the very clear fact that extremist Islam is a huge threat to Britain, but they don't want to take part in catching the ******* who are trying to blow innocent civilians up. Can anyone tell me how these people still have their jobs?

    and just for kicks


    No no no! :rolleyes: it's the far-right who are the threat! :mmm:
    You do realise that Hitler got into power through exploiting the fear of Communism, right?
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    Holy ****! are you actually trying to compare hate crimes (name calling, stone throwing **** like that) to strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing up a train or plane and as many innocent civilians as possible? Seriously? Wtf are you smoking? Can I have some?

    Yeah you could put words in my mouth it would certainly make arguing easier for you. Or you could actually read what I wrote which is why the **** are these ****ers still in the job? They're reluctant to act against their own "kind" despite them being terrorists wanting to kill innocent people all the while Britain bans BNP members from being cops because they might discriminate against people. Well **** that. How about you actually punish discrimination when it happens not pre-emptively and how about idiots who won't do their job and stick their heads in the sand about the real dangers to Britain get shown the door.
    I distorted your argument like you distorted mine. By saying that I was defending terrorists is the usual 'If you're not with us you're against us' ********. Although you're exhibiting the usual tired old arguments. Anyone who disagrees with you 'can't see the real dangers'. Next you'll be claiming I'm part of the 'Liberal PC brigade' and that you're 'not an Islamophobe but....'
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    Look at McArthyism in the US, and look at Browns new measures. I agree with this muslim chap.
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    (Original post by Seanisonfire)
    I distorted your argument like you distorted mine. By saying that I was defending terrorists is the usual 'If you're not with us you're against us' ********. Although you're exhibiting the usual tired old arguments. Anyone who disagrees with you 'can't see the real dangers'. Next you'll be claiming I'm part of the 'Liberal PC brigade' and that you're 'not an Islamophobe but....'
    You say I'm going to call you a silly name then you throw about "islamophobe" :mmm:

    But hey, if it's "islamophobic" to oppose terrorism and to want police officers to protect the innocent public to the best of their ability from the very real threat posed by terrorists, I guess I'm the biggest "islamophobe" around.




    Btw, I won thanks for being such a retard at arguing your corner, terrorist defender.
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    here's a nice list:
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

    It shows the number of Islamic terror attacks in the last 2 months. You can see previous time-period's lists in the links below it.


    Are you seriously trying to say the number by Christians is anywhere as long? SERIOUSLY :rofl:
    2009.12.28 Pakistan Karachi

    "More than forty people in a religious procession are sent straight to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber."

    I'm ashamed to admit this but .... I lol'd
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    (Original post by TheMeister)
    Sometimes I just feel sorry for Gordon Brown and his government.
    Why? :s
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    However, this chat has descended into Nazi and Hitler comparisons, so I enact Godwins law - Convo over
    darn it!! i wanted to use godwins law.
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    I agree with the police officers, the far right are a more present threat than Islam, (in fact Islam isn't a threat at all Islamist extremists are a threat.)

    The far right have won seats to the EU parliament (islamic extremists have not), the far right are at risk of entering mainstream politics (Islamic extremists are not), the far right have been legitmised in this country and have appeared on national TV (Islamic extremists do not), the far right has tens of thousands of members in is country (Islamic extremists often (but not always) come from over seas).

    Its clear the far right are a real threat to this country far more than a few extremists in rural pakistan are. For people tocomplain Islam is a threat is naive and stupid, they claim it spreads its religon through holy wars (which might have been true in the 16th century) but every other relgion at some point has spread its religon through violence at the hands of a few nut jobs.
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    (Original post by az1992)
    fact is more people have died in our country from terrorist attacks by christian terror organisations from northern island. but that doesnt fit with your anti muslim theory so no doubt you'll discard it.
    :lol: your still waiting for a responce?
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    (Original post by RyanT)
    How are they extreme Muslims? They're following their Koran and they're hardly a small group. They're normal Muslims - just the ones that'll follow on through to the logical conclusion of their beliefs.

    Just because it's a religion doesn't make it nice.

    Islam is horrible and disgusting. That is why the Islamic world is surrounded by a ring of violence. Everywhere they come into contact with other cultures - there is terrorism and war. Everywhere from Europe to Africa to India to China to Russia. It isn't about them having an extreme idea of their religion - but rather the religion itself being extreme.

    It is a collection of values of a tribe existing in a state of endemic warfare living in the 6th century. Religions are political. The politics of Islam is violence.
    You are clearly an ignorant moron who nows NOTHING about Islam and yet babbles on about like a complete dic*head.

    Does Islam forbid the killing of children and women at anytime? Yes

    Does it forbid the killing of non-combatant men at any time? Yes

    Does it forbid destruction to private property in times of war? Yes

    Does it forbid suicide? Yes

    Are terrorists muslims? Well you seem intelligent enough to figure it all out. An interesting fact: according to the CIA ( a National Geographic channel programme concerning 9/11 says), one of the "Muslim" terrorists watched a porn movie (extremely frowned upon) and called a prostitute (forbidden) before he went and helped kill thousands of people in the World Trade Centre- some of them Muslim.

    Where Muslims are being oppressed OF COURSE resistant movements are going to form:

    Russia: Chechnaya- thousands of innocent muslims tortured and killed. Hence the formation of "terrorist groups" bent on the destruction of the Russian state which caused so much suffering to their relatives and friends.
    Afganistan and Iraq: Innocent people HAVE been killed, have been purposefully abused by NATO troops (abu ghraib just one example). The relatives of these poor souls will turn to anything to avenge what happened to their loved ones.
    India: Look up Kashmir human rights abuses, fair enough India has troops in the region but that doesn't justify the illegal killings of at least 18,000 muslims since 1989. Many women have been raped and the UN has proof of many people bungled from their homes and beaten to death by Indian troops.
    Serbia: The genocide against the Muslims in 1994.

    etc.etc.etc.

    Do you expect the relatives of these people to stand by?? Terrorism has NOTHING to do with Islam (which incidentally wasn't established in the 6th century u idiot) and EVERYTHING to do with the circumstances that are causing people to turn to terrorism in the first place. Whenever a people are repressed some ineivatably turn to violent resistance regardless of their religion. We saw that with the Sikhs at the Golden Temple, the Jews during the Second World war. The Christians masscared the whole of Jerusalem during the crusades because it had been controlled by the Muslims. Do each of these religions condone violence? NO.

    Please think before you spout bull**** out of your ar**hole. Would love to see one of the retards hellbent on spreading false crap about my religion counter all of this.
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    If you want to learn something about Islam, try these websites
    www.islamtommorow.com
    www.godallah.com
    http://www.prophetofislam.com/


    And you might learn something you might not know. End Quote
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    Non muslims shoudnt speak about Islam when they have no idea what they are talking about. end quote
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    (Original post by rrea436)
    :lol: your still waiting for a responce?
    lol not really, all i would get back is the same "you leftist liberal anti england ****" instead of any actual counter points
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)

    Yeah because a load of BNP members blew up trains and a bus in London. "Far-Right" maniacs drove a car of explosives into an airport. And it was the same far right extremists who planned to blow up a load of transatlantic planes and commit mass murder.
    Just to add:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-attacks.html
    So not only do they ignore the very clear fact that extremist Islam is a huge threat to Britain, but they don't want to take part in catching the ******* who are trying to blow innocent civilians up. Can anyone tell me how these people still have their jobs?

    No no no! :rolleyes: it's the far-right who are the threat! :mmm:
    they're right islam isn't responsibe for terrorism, there's messed up people in every race and religion. hitler, stalin, IRA, gavrilo princip etc. are all arguably terrorists none of whom where muslims.
    plus they didn't say that muslim terrorists are not a threat they said that far right extremists may be a larger threat. which they may well be a terrorist attack is quite rare (better if they didn't exist at all but they do) whereas a far-right idiot walks the streets everyday and is drunk most days they could cause more deaths and injuries over the years than a terrorist, not to mention lack of social cohesion, tension, lack of productivity at work etc
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    If there's already a thread on this I apologise.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sh-values.html


    What a bunch of complete idiots. I mean seriously, how are these fools even allowed to be police officers? Britain bans BNP members from being police officers but allows idiots like this who clearly have a chip on their shoulder to join. That last bit! Haha! :rofl: Yeah because a load of BNP members blew up trains and a bus in London. "Far-Right" maniacs drove a car of explosives into an airport. And it was the same far right extremists who planned to blow up a load of transatlantic planes and commit mass murder.

    What a ******* joke.

    ps. in before "omg daily Fail! look how smug I am" retards.



    Just to add:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-attacks.html



    So not only do they ignore the very clear fact that extremist Islam is a huge threat to Britain, but they don't want to take part in catching the ******* who are trying to blow innocent civilians up. Can anyone tell me how these people still have their jobs?

    and just for kicks


    No no no! :rolleyes: it's the far-right who are the threat! :mmm:
    Firstly, Islam is a religion and not a political group. Secondly how is the religion, Islam a threat? Finally, have you heard or read in the newspaper article, BNP supporters and members attempting to blow up areas, to cause segregation? Or does that miss you completely/
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    Fundamentalist muslims definitely pose a bigger threat than Nick Griffin
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    I thought Islamist extremists ARE far-right extremists! Aren't the terms synonymous...

    ...or am I missing something?
 
 
 
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