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    Also,

    They indicated that Muslim officers may be reluctant to take part in “hearts and minds” anti-terrorism campaigns.
    Well surely they are in the wrong job...and what exactly is the issue with an anti-terror campaign? Surely "moderate muslims" would be supportive of such a thing.
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    @moelester
    i dont think that. perhaps they do.
    and who's ever heard of a far right terrorist in the UK?
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    (Original post by jrdavid)
    @moelester
    i dont think that. perhaps they do.
    and who's ever heard of a far right terrorist in the UK?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    I agree, statistics speak for themselves, more deaths have been caused by Islamic terrorists than far-right extremists. It seems stupid to claim this as more of a threat. It is of course a threat...look at David Copeland, but more of one it is not. Sounds more like an attempt to shift responsibility away from the extremes of their religon.
    It’s not extremism. It is Islam itself.

    You have to understand that Islam is not just a religion but a political agenda. It demands that people submit to God and then spread the religion to please Allah (the most merciful!!), and then we're suddenyl suprised when people start using violence?
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    I have said it hundred times that Islam is totally innocent.
    And just because some people call themselves Muslims doesn't mean that they are Muslims. In fact lot of these 'extremists' have no idea about Islam and probably don't even pray!
    I think that lots of them just got addicted to drugs or so, and were extermly depressed so decided to call themselves 'extremists' hence use the label 'Islam' to stand out. Unfortunately, they are unaware of what they are going to be face with hereafter.
    I think the society is to blame because it is helpless when it comes to helping the hopeless like these guys, they feel like they are isolated from the society, which pushes them to do unacceptable things like these.
    Hey you know, just because someone calls themselves a BNP member doesn't mean that they are a BNP member Sure they hold a membership card, sure they go to meetings but the BNP doesn't tell it's members to blow ****/people up so anyone who does do that is clearly not a BNP member.



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sh-values.html

    Muslim police officers have warned that the Government's anti-terrorism strategy is an 'affront to British values' and encourages Islamophobia.

    The National Association of Muslim Police (NAMP) told MPs that it was wrong to blame Islam for recent terrorist attacks and Muslim police officers have warned that the Government's anti-terrorism strategy is an 'affront to British values' and encourages Islamophobia.

    The National Association of Muslim Police (NAMP) told MPs that it was wrong to blame Islam for recent terrorist attacks and warned that far-Right organisations were a greater threat to national security than Islam.
    What a bunch of complete idiots. I mean seriously, how are these fools even allowed to be police officers? Britain bans BNP members from being police officers but allows idiots like this who clearly have a chip on their shoulder to join. That last bit! Haha! :rofl: Yeah because a load of BNP members blew up trains and a bus in London. "Far-Right" maniacs drove a car of explosives into an airport. And it was the same far right extremists who planned to blow up a load of transatlantic planes and commit mass murder.

    What a ******* joke.


    Just to add:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...r-attacks.html

    They indicated that Muslim officers may be reluctant to take part in “hearts and minds” anti-terrorism campaigns.
    So not only do they ignore the very clear fact that extremist Islam is a huge threat to Britain, but they don't want to take part in catching the ******* who are trying to blow innocent civilians up. Can anyone tell me how these people still have their jobs? BNP members can't be cops because they'll apparently discriminate against people (massive breach of right of political freedom btw, why not punish them if they actually do discriminate rather than guessing they will) but it's a-ok for Muslim police officers to not carry out their duties because it offends their sensibilities - just like that Muslim cop who wouldn't guard the Israeli embassy a while back.

    and just for kicks
    The Daily Telegraph disclosed last week that American intelligence agencies believed that Britain had the greatest number of Islamic extremists of any Western country.
    No no no! :rolleyes: it's the far-right who are the threat! :mmm:
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    I have said it hundred times that Islam is totally innocent.
    Nonsense.

    And just because some people call themselves Muslims doesn't mean that they are Muslims. In fact lot of these 'extremists' have no idea about Islam and probably don't even pray!

    Nonsense. I suspect they pray more than you.

    I think that lots of them just got addicted to drugs or so, and were extermly depressed so decided to call themselves 'extremists' hence use the label 'Islam' to stand out. Unfortunately, they are unaware of what they are going to be face with hereafter.
    Nonsense.

    I think the society is to blame because it is helpless when it comes to helping the hopeless like these guys, they feel like they are isolated from the society, which pushes them to do unacceptable things like these
    So it is our fault now? Nonsense.
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
    It’s not extremism. It is Islam itself.

    You have to understand that Islam is not just a religion but a political agenda. It demands that people submit to God and then spread the religion to please Allah (the most merciful!!), and then we're suddenyl suprised when people start using violence?
    I agree the problem lies with the religon itself, I was shocked when I read the Qu'ran, it's an unpleasant read, it is obsessed with unbelievers and contains enough dubious verses for terrorists to be suitably inspired towards violence and suitably satisfied that their acts will be sanctioned by God.
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
    So it is our fault now? Nonsense.
    It's always something/somebody elses fault though, nothing ever to do with the "religon of peace". It reminds me of a little kid that always has a million excuses as to why they didn't misbehave.
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    I agree the problem lies with the religon itself, I was shocked when I read the Qu'ran, it's an unpleasant read, it is obsessed with unbelievers and contains enough dubious verses for terrorists to be suitably inspired towards violence and suitably satisfied that their acts will be sanctioned by God.
    You MUST read the autobiography of Muhammad himself.

    Islam uses the Quran and his life to dictate their own.

    He slaughtered the entire family of his second 9 year old Jewish wife on the same day he slept with her! That is the true meaning barbaric!
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
    You MUST read the autobiography of Muhammad himself.

    Islam uses the Quran and his life to dictate their own.

    He slaughtered the entire family of his second 9 year old Jewish wife on the same day he slept with her! That is the true meaning barbaric!
    Not only that but this man is held up as an example of how billions of people should behave, the very pinnacle, the definition of perfection and the perfect rolemodel for humanity...what a joke. No wonder the faith is such a menace if a warlord from the dark ages is regarded as a particularly decent guide for humankind.
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    So basically instead of Islam the blame lies with society........why then don't down and out Christians, Hindus and Jews evoke the name of their religon and blow themselves up in similar numbers to Muslims?
    Who said they don't do that ? Just because this is not mentioned in the newspapers and TV doesn't mean they don't !
    Indeed do the jews evoke the name of their religion and don't blow themselves up but kill thousands.
    But just because the 'West' doesn't want Islam to spread out, it tries to change people views about Islam by showing thses idiots blowing or attempting to blow themselves up!
    Unfortunately for them , this will never stop it.. but it is infact persuading people to search into this religion that is hated by many people and discover that they were victims of brainwashing..and just wish they discovered Islam before then.
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    Who said they don't do that ? Just because this is not mentioned in the newspapers and TV doesn't mean they don't !
    Yep babe, it's a conspiracy. A zionist conspiracy

    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    Indeed do the jews evoke the name of their religion and don't blow themselves up but kill thousands.
    Funny you should mention that because er...who's firing rockets and trying to blow up as many Israeli citizens as possible? Thankfully, Israel doesn't **** about.

    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    But just because the 'West' doesn't want Islam to spread out, it tries to change people views about Islam by showing thses idiots blowing or attempting to blow themselves up!
    Unfortunately for them , this will never stop it.. but it is infact persuading people to search into this religion that is hated by many people and discover that they were victims of brainwashing..and just wish they discovered Islam before then.
    The west doesn't need to do anything, idiot Islamists do all their own propaganda. I mean check out Captain Hook and the real life troll Choudary. :p:
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    Who said they don't do that ? Just because this is not mentioned in the newspapers and TV doesn't mean they don't !
    Absolute rubbish, show me examples of Christian, Jewish, Hindu terrorism on the same scale of Islamic terrorism.

    But just because the 'West' doesn't want Islam to spread out, it tries to change people views about Islam by showing thses idiots blowing or attempting to blow themselves up!
    Rubbish, in Britain the government bends over backwards to accomadate Islam. And whose attempting to change whose views, terrorists aren't MI5 agents or something...although your probably crazy enough/in denial enough to believe that.
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Not only that but this man is held up as an example of how billions of people should behave, the very pinnacle, the definition of perfection and the perfect rolemodel for humanity...what a joke. No wonder the faith is such a menace if a warlord from the dark ages is regarded as a particularly decent guide for humankind.
    If this is the aim of the thread then you should have mentioned it before..so that I don't put my posts in such a dirty place... I hope you'll wake up soon .......Goood Bye :ciao:
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    Who said they don't do that ? Just because this is not mentioned in the newspapers and TV doesn't mean they don't !
    Indeed do the jews evoke the name of their religion and don't blow themselves up but kill thousands.
    But just because the 'West' doesn't want Islam to spread out, it tries to change people views about Islam by showing thses idiots blowing or attempting to blow themselves up!
    Unfortunately for them , this will never stop it.. but it is infact persuading people to search into this religion that is hated by many people and discover that they were victims of brainwashing..and just wish they discovered Islam before then.
    Would you like to borrow some aluminium foil?
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    (Original post by algérie_mon_amour)
    I hope you'll wake up soon
    What and embrace Islam? :rofl:
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    Lol at the op saying 'stay on topic' and then he starts bashing Islam :rofl:
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
    You MUST read the autobiography of Muhammad himself.

    Islam uses the Quran and his life to dictate their own.

    He slaughtered the entire family of his second 9 year old Jewish wife on the same day he slept with her! That is the true meaning barbaric!
    No he didn't you idiot.

    Does Islam forbid the killing of children and women at anytime? Yes

    Does it forbid the killing of non-combatant men at any time? Yes

    Does it forbid destruction to private property in times of war? Yes

    Does it forbid suicide? Yes

    Are terrorists muslims? Well you seem intelligent enough to figure it all out. An interesting fact: according to the CIA ( a National Geographic channel programme concerning 9/11 says), one of the "Muslim" terrorists watched a porn movie (extremely frowned upon) and called a prostitute (forbidden) before he went and helped kill thousands of people in the World Trade Centre- some of them Muslim.
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    (Original post by Good Apollo)
    Everyone knows Muslims can't do anything wrong. Only white people can. Duh.
    Some whites are muslim.
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    Surely blaming Islam/ society is the wrong way to look at this, it is the bombers fault themselves, no? so to prevent this we should simply try and target these people at the root, not target Islam etc doing that just gives those who do use the cover of Islam to defend their atrocities more ammunition.
 
 
 
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