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1. I just finsihed FP1 which I thought was tbh nothing really that much of a challenge par induction to an extent!!

Though I have finished FP3 and now still have two modules to study for I was wondering ow hard FP2 is compared to FP1???

I have FP3 coming up soon and hope to get 80+ as it can be tricky as its a bloody tough module

so really ow is FP2? What topics are in FP2? OW is it compared to FP1???

thanks
2. (Original post by alizaheer)
I just finsihed FP1 which I thought was tbh nothing really that much of a challenge par induction to an extent!!

Though I have finished FP3 and now still have two modules to study for I was wondering ow hard FP2 is compared to FP1???

I have FP3 coming up soon and hope to get 80+ as it can be tricky as its a bloody tough module

so really ow is FP2? What topics are in FP2? OW is it compared to FP1???

thanks
its very easy ..I rode a bicycle backwards to climb Mt Everest and learnt FP2 on the way..thats how easy it was
3. (Original post by simplexity)
its very easy ..I rode a bicycle backwards to climb Mt Everest and learnt FP2 on the way..thats how easy it was
You serious !?, I am taking FP2 and it seems to be a difficult module (the guys in my class who gets 100, 95+ in C1, C2, FP1, are just totally confused with some topics) but if you are good with C4, than it shouldnt be too much of a problem, keep doing the work and practice questions and you should be fine. It doesn't heavily build on FP1 surprisingly, only complex numbers and series (There is no matrices in FP2 ), everything else is new and just builds up on C3 and C4.
4. I found the old fp2 fun and not really that hard. Some of the foci proofs can take ages though - i screwed up a foci question i remember and thus got 76% in the exam because i refused to move on until i could do it then ran out of time ...my lowest further maths module but not hard as such....just got to be good at spotting tricks in algebraic manipulation.
5. The topics are fine if taught correctly. The issue is that you will struggle to find a text box that actually bothers to let the reader know what is happening. For example the approach to 2nd order DE's is shocking in most major text books......they tell you have to solve the problems and jump through hoops, but that is about it.....If you have a teacher who knows there stuff then they will of course be able to show the correct maths..
6. THe new Edexcel FP1 module is now an AS module so it is fairly easy. The FP2 module is however an A2 module so of a higher standard. Some bits are quite hard, other bits less so.
7. (Original post by tiny hobbit)
THe new Edexcel FP1 module is now an AS module so it is fairly easy. The FP2 module is however an A2 module so of a higher standard. Some bits are quite hard, other bits less so.
wtf have they done to maths and further maths! my my edexcel days we had: P1-P3 (a level maths) and P4-P6 (further maths). They seem to be splitting up modules analogous to how bacteria multiply!
8. (Original post by blue_shift86)
wtf have they done to maths and further maths! my my edexcel days we had: P1-P3 (a level maths) and P4-P6 (further maths). They seem to be splitting up modules analogous to how bacteria multiply!

{P1,P2,P3} and {P4,P5,P6}

they now have

{C1,C2,C3,C4} and {FP1,FP2}

OHH FUKKEN NOEZ!
9. (Original post by Mrm.)
The topics are fine if taught correctly. The issue is that you will struggle to find a text box that actually bothers to let the reader know what is happening. For example the approach to 2nd order DE's is shocking in most major text books......they tell you have to solve the problems and jump through hoops, but that is about it.....If you have a teacher who knows there stuff then they will of course be able to show the correct maths..
Could you recommend any any textbooks or resources for Further Maths? I'm thinking about getting Bostock and Chandler's book. I'm having problem understanding the intuition behind 2nd order DE's and matrix algebra.
10. (Original post by _Ravi_)
Could you recommend any any textbooks or resources for Further Maths? I'm thinking about getting Bostock and Chandler's book. I'm having problem understanding the intuition behind 2nd order DE's and matrix algebra.
Bostock and chandler is good, possibly the best imho.
With regards to and order DE's , post what you would like to know and I will see what I can come up with.
11. (Original post by zdo0o)

{P1,P2,P3} and {P4,P5,P6}

they now have

{C1,C2,C3,C4} and {FP1,FP2}

OHH FUKKEN NOEZ!
you forgot FP3
That looks like a monster of a module, so much stuff in the formula booklet, 3D matrices wtf!?

are the new FP's easier or harder than the old ones? the new fp1 has been designed so it can be learnt without knowledge of c3/c4
12. (Original post by crazedmonkey09)
you forgot FP3
That looks like a monster of a module, so much stuff in the formula booklet, 3D matrices wtf!?

are the new FP's easier or harder than the old ones? the new fp1 has been designed so it can be learnt without knowledge of c3/c4
nope, FP3 isn't necessary for A level further maths, although it can be taken in place of something like M2, S2 etc if the person so wishes (I might actually do this in the summer, because I hate stats so much, rather than do S2).
13. I've studied about half of FP2. Inequalites and the little chapter on series are easy enough. Complex numbers is interesting (especially de Moivre's theorem and its applications). Then there is some loci stuff in complex numbers, which takes a bit more lateral thinking. I have done first order differential equations and if you are OK with C4 integration, that shouldn't be a problem. Also did some polar co-ordinates and this is just really an exercise in algebra to solve the problems.

Overall, so far not too bad. If you are scoring 90+ in your core modules you should be fairly comfortable with FP2, IMO.
14. The new FP2 is obviously harder than the FP1. As with all modules so far, none of the questions are particularily difficult but there is a lot to remember (imo). Large sections on ODE's is fairly easy but you need to learn a load of methods, a few trivial chapters on things like series and inequalities. The rest is complex numbers (continued from FP1) which puts some geometry into play, Maclaurin and then some polar coordinates. Nothing too bad.
I think the questions on FP3 would probably be harder, with the large section on vectors and matricies.
15. (Original post by blue_shift86)
wtf have they done to maths and further maths! my my edexcel days we had: P1-P3 (a level maths) and P4-P6 (further maths). They seem to be splitting up modules analogous to how bacteria multiply!
P1-3 got split into 4 modules, C1-4, so you now only do 2 applied modules for A level Maths.

For Edexcel, initially P4-6 simply got renamed as FP1-3, but were exactly the same. They now now been stirred up a bit, but the total content of the FP1-3 is virtually identical to the FP1-3 that they replaced.
The difference is that FP1 has been redesigned as an AS module that can be taught alongside AS Maths. The content of C1-2 is needed, but not of C3-4.
The knock-on effect is that there is more material to cover in FP2 and FP3. FP3 in particular is quite a large module.
16. (Original post by alizaheer)
I just finsihed FP1 which I thought was tbh nothing really that much of a challenge par induction to an extent!!

Though I have finished FP3 and now still have two modules to study for I was wondering ow hard FP2 is compared to FP1???

I have FP3 coming up soon and hope to get 80+ as it can be tricky as its a bloody tough module

so really ow is FP2? What topics are in FP2? OW is it compared to FP1???

thanks
okay wait, so you don't need pre-requisite knowledge of FP2 in order to do FP3?
17. (Original post by zomgleh)
okay wait, so you don't need pre-requisite knowledge of FP2 in order to do FP3?

I studied fp3 and i remember the main topics were

matricies 3 by 3 which continue from fp1 imo quite easy
Vectors 3d that is which can be difficult but very interesting
Intergration which is quite hard
hyperbolics which isnt hard once got concept of formulas
differentiation/surface area/revolution/proof

quite a long chapter but overall quite difficult
18. (Original post by tiny hobbit)
P1-3 got split into 4 modules, C1-4, so you now only do 2 applied modules for A level Maths.

For Edexcel, initially P4-6 simply got renamed as FP1-3, but were exactly the same. They now now been stirred up a bit, but the total content of the FP1-3 is virtually identical to the FP1-3 that they replaced.
The difference is that FP1 has been redesigned as an AS module that can be taught alongside AS Maths. The content of C1-2 is needed, but not of C3-4.
The knock-on effect is that there is more material to cover in FP2 and FP3. FP3 in particular is quite a large module.
very interesting; thank you fot posting that they should have kept it the same
19. (Original post by alizaheer)
I studied fp3 and i remember the main topics were

matricies 3 by 3 which continue from fp1 imo quite easy
Vectors 3d that is which can be difficult but very interesting
Intergration which is quite hard
hyperbolics which isnt hard once got concept of formulas
differentiation/surface area/revolution/proof

quite a long chapter but overall quite difficult
oh okay, thanks.
also do you know why they have given the area of a sector formula in the formula booklet for the fp1 section?
20. p.s.

easy.

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