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    130
    24.25%
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    0.93%
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    0.56%
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    Sorry but I disagree. Tuition fees have been introduced and poor students still attend University. Increasing the tuition fees will not turn away poorer students or any student for that matter, that wishes to get a degree education.
    It will cause problems to those who can barely afford it anyway, also they'll probably get rid of the bursaries and Government financial help towards University fees.



    (Original post by Teaddict)
    Sorry but again this is false. The current system penalises married couples in terms of tax and in terms of benefits. The Conservatives wish to reform the system so that married couples are not penalised in the system.
    Yeah, I'm sure married couples will enjoy their extra £3 a week (as was said on Question Time).
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    It will cause problems to those who can barely afford it anyway, also they'll probably get rid of the bursaries and Government financial help towards University fees.

    Yeah, I'm sure married couples will enjoy their extra £3 a week (as was said on Question Time).
    Barely afford it? Those from poor incomes will get; like everyone else, low interest loans until they can afford to pay it back. Those on poor incomes also get grants and various other loans and bursaries.

    So the idea that the poorer students won't go to University is a red herring.

    You say £3 a week, however, that works out as over £150 a year. As I said, it is not about prioritising marriage, rather to change the situation where marriage is penalised.
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    (Original post by Magnum Opus)
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    What is the difference between the general election and the UK parliamentary elections?

    Seems like you know enough about UK politics to answer my question, I'm basically clueless
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    You say £3 a week, however, that works out as over £150 a year. As I said, it is not about prioritising marriage, rather to change the situation where marriage is penalised.
    Most families go through well over £150 a week, so thanks for the great help tories...

    From what I've read also (reading documentation from the tories well before their manifesto) they are going to get rid of child benefit (that every family that has a child is entitled to), I think this is something in the region of around £20 a week per child (give or take a few pounds). So families will actually be receiving less help under a Conservative Government.

    Also, the tories have said that they can't ensure benefits like EMA (which means they're going to get rid of it), this benefit is also very helpful to families with low income...

    Just more evidence that the tories only care and will only care about the rich...
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    (Original post by In2deep)
    What is the difference between the general election and the UK parliamentary elections?

    Seems like you know enough about UK politics to answer my question, I'm basically clueless
    Nothing.

    In a general election you vote for who you want to represent your constituency in the UK Parliament, so it can adequately be described as a UK Parliamentary election.

    Remember, there are different parliaments spread within the UK - Scottish Parliament, Welsh, etc. The UK Parliament means you vote for you MP who represents you at Westminster.

    In Scotland we'll have a separate election (not at the same time) to decide our MSP - the Members of Scottish Parliament who will represent us at Holyrood, where the Scottish Parliament resides.
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    It will cause problems to those who can barely afford it anyway, also they'll probably get rid of the bursaries and Government financial help towards University fees.





    Yeah, I'm sure married couples will enjoy their extra £3 a week (as was said on Question Time).
    Why would a Socialist like yourself strive for university education when everyone should be 'equal.'....
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    "The commitment of BNP leader Nick Griffin's bid to win Barking at the General Election has come under scrutiny. He seems to be avoiding the very area that's spearheading his party's push to secure a Member of Parliament. " - According to ITV. You seen him lately?
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    Asking a bunch of his political rivals doesn't seem too impartial?
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    (Original post by Skanza)
    Why would a Socialist like yourself strive for university education when everyone should be 'equal.'....
    Maybe because I want to learn further about Software Engineering or Computer Science? Maybe I enjoy learning about something I enjoy and would like to do it and be able to live because of it.
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    Maybe because I want to learn further about Software Engineering or Computer Science? Maybe I enjoy learning about something I enjoy and would like to do it and be able to live because of it.
    Yes but the point was because that not everyone can do what you plan to do, why should you be allowed?
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    Yes but the point was because that not everyone can do what you plan to do, why should you be allowed?
    I don't think I understand what you're on about. Socialism and Communism stand for equality but that doesn't mean everyone has to do the same thing..
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    I don't think I understand what you're on about. Socialism and Communism stand for equality but that doesn't mean everyone has to do the same thing..
    So you believe that those that are capable should be able to go further?
    For example, if only one out of twenty people can go to university, that one person should still go.
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    Socialism and Communism stand for equality but that doesn't mean everyone has to do the same thing..
    No, it doesn't, it also means you shouldn't be better than one person who can't go, you've labelled yourself a socialist, yet you go for further education which makes you stand out from the working class, why didn't you just stop at state funded education? I mean, surely its a sin for you to pay for your education?
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    (Original post by Willef)
    No, it doesn't, it also means you shouldn't be better than one person who can't go, you've labelled yourself a socialist, yet you go for further education which makes you stand out from the working class, why didn't you just stop at state funded education? I mean, surely its a sin for you to pay for your education?
    What the hell are you talking about?

    The United Kingdom is not socialist. Therefore I do not live in a Socialist country. Secondly I don't stand out from the working class if my University fees would be paid 100% by the Government (thanks to Labour, no doubt the tories will get rid of that). Thirdly, in my ideal Socialist Country, every school/university/college would be state ran and funded and would be to a very high standard, no one would have to pay for lower than or higher than a University education, but I do not live in that society, so it's pointless bringing me up on the point.
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    I am voting for policies but at this moment policies are all talk. David Cameron and George Osborne can come up with any fancy policies they like but there are no guarantees they can deliver.

    I therefore pay more attention to their characters, background and their past achievements. It may be true as you said that a lot of Tories engage in the business world but the ones that will be in key positions making the most important decisions are Cameron and Osborne and they've had no real world experience outside politics.
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    (Original post by Little_Fish)
    I am voting for policies but at this moment policies are all talk. David Cameron and George Osborne can come up with any fancy policies they like but there are no guarantees they can deliver.

    I therefore pay more attention to their characters, background and their past achievements. It may be true as you said that a lot of Tories engage in the business world but the ones that will be in key positions making the most important decisions are Cameron and Osborne and they've had no real world experience outside politics.
    Both have worked outside of politics.
    With the Tories you also get fantastic people like Kenneth Clarke :woo:
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    Both have worked outside of politics.
    With the Tories you also get fantastic people like Kenneth Clarke :woo:
    With the tories you also get horribly dealt with recession which loose millions of people jobs, no help for the poor and general unrest and anger...

    "Vote for the tories! Get the above ^"

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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    With the tories you also get horribly dealt with recession which loose millions of people jobs, no help for the poor and general unrest and anger...

    "Vote for the tories! Get the above ^"

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    Speculation and tosh.

    If you want the leadership and the skills to get this country through this recession and into economy growth and general prosperity, you only have one choice, and that choice is the Conservative Party.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    Speculation and tosh.

    If you want the leadership and the skills to get this country through this recession and into economy growth and general prosperity, you only have one choice, and that choice is the Conservative Party.
    Errr no. If you want a party that has proven itself capable of leading the country through a recession and into recovery, vote Labour.

    What I said about the tories is not "tosh". Do you know nothing of the 1980s?

    How the Conservatives dealth with a recession was simply terrible, freezing wages (most people like to be paid), huge inflation (15% a YEAR at one point)... The tories have proven themselves in capable of fairly leading the country in the past and this is what will happen again...

    Thankfully though, the tories have pretty much lost the election, partly due to the fact of how pathetic and useless cameron is.
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    (Original post by xXedixXx)
    Errr no. If you want a party that has proven itself capable of leading the country through a recession and into recovery, vote Labour.

    What I said about the tories is not "tosh". Do you know nothing of the 1980s?

    How the Conservatives dealth with a recession was simply terrible, freezing wages (most people like to be paid), huge inflation (15% a YEAR at one point)... The tories have proven themselves in capable of fairly leading the country in the past and this is what will happen again...

    Thankfully though, the tories have pretty much lost the election, partly due to the fact of how pathetic and useless cameron is.
    What you have said is tosh. You are assuming that because of the 1980s, the Tories will "do it" again which is speculation and tosh. Though really I want them to slash the hell out of public services... This deficit needs to go.

    Inflation was worse under Labour than the Tories.
 
 
 
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