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    I'm looking for a computer that has a large screen so I can easily do uni work and that is also pretty powerful so I can multitask etc. I can get the new low end Imac for £853.05 with the student discount but is it worth it or are there any good, cheaper alternatives.

    Here are the specs:

    21.5-inch
    3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB memory
    500GB hard drive1
    £853.05
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    Not worth £850.
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    well you havent listed anything specific you want to do on a mac
    a pc will do everything you need, and probably wont cost as much.

    have you considered building a pc?
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    Hey, I think whether it's worth it is relative to your financial situation. I can 'afford' it but personally I don't think it's good value. I reckon you're better of getting an old 24" imac. I realise old in this context may seem pejorative but it's a far better deal in my opinion, especially if you get a refurbished 24" from apple or somewhere else. The only imac I'd by, which represents value in my opinion is the quad core 27 inch. It creeps close to a Mac Pro in terms of power and has an truly mesmerising screen.
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    (Original post by decatonchires)
    Hey, I think whether it's worth it is relative to your financial situation. I can 'afford' it but personally I don't think it's good value. I reckon you're better of getting an old 24" imac. I realise old in this context may seem pejorative but it's a far better deal in my opinion, especially if you get a refurbished 24" from apple or somewhere else. The only imac I'd by, which represents value in my opinion is the quad core 27 inch. It creeps close to a Mac Pro in terms of power and has an truly mesmerising screen.
    How much should I limit myself to if buying a 24 inch from ebay then. What price would be a good deal for one and how much would be too much?
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    £850 for that? Are you having a laugh?

    What is it that you want to do that you can't do on a Windows machine?
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    (Original post by alexsheppard11)
    well you havent listed anything specific you want to do on a mac
    a pc will do everything you need, and probably wont cost as much.

    have you considered building a pc?
    I don't really have the time to build one and would probably have no idea where to start. I guess there isn't really anything specific that I need with the mac I just want a large screen and was getting tired of bad experiences with PCs. Even though I buy from what seem like good makes like HP I end up with an absolute fail of a computer. My current one keeps spontaneously freezing for some unknown reason whilst making clicking noises and its getting on my nerves as I have to keep restarting it.
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    'The time' to build a computer is literally a couple of hours, even if you're bad at practical stuff. You literally slot stuff together and plug it in, and you get to buy decent quality components and avoid all the bloatware that slows most computers down. The only thing that's easy to get wrong is choosing the right bits, and I'm sure plenty of people on tsr would help you to get that right (I would...)
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    (Original post by tommy.789)
    How much should I limit myself to if buying a 24 inch from ebay then. What price would be a good deal for one and how much would be too much?
    You could get a pretty decent deal on Ebay from £600-£700. I wouldn't pay any more than £700. Go to Ebay, look on Gumtree and cex.co.uk.£800 would definitely be too much as the depreciation on your purchase is already noticeable. But as a few people have said, if you don't specifically want a mac, pc's WILL provide better value for money. Saying this I prefer Mac's, not because I'm a fanboy or whatever but because of the usually, solid build quality and the fact that the products are made out of metal providing ruggedness.
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    (Original post by tommy.789)
    I don't really have the time to build one and would probably have no idea where to start. I guess there isn't really anything specific that I need with the mac I just want a large screen and was getting tired of bad experiences with PCs. Even though I buy from what seem like good makes like HP I end up with an absolute fail of a computer. My current one keeps spontaneously freezing for some unknown reason whilst making clicking noises and its getting on my nerves as I have to keep restarting it.
    ok, well i would still recommend getting a pc.

    you can then pick a screen to suit your needs, there's many to choose from.
    most new pc's come with windows 7, which is great.

    a decent site that lists the parts in the detail is overclockers. you know exactly what is in the pc, so you wont end up with something like you have now, which randomly dies
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    No.

    you're just paying for the brand
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    (Original post by jjackson18624)
    No.

    you're just paying for the brand
    While I understand Apple do charge more for a computer of similar specification to a PC, your statement is a wee bit unfair. Sometimes there is no discernible equivalent to a Mac, maybe hardware-wise but certainly not build-wise. For example, you don't get many decent notebook PC's anymore, which is why I buy Macbook Pro's, although I concede, the HP 15" envy is an excellent notebook. Aluminium chassis, usb 3.0, quad-core and certain hardware advancements. I'm considering purchasing one after I see what the new Macbook Pro's look like.

    Anyway, the point of this drawn-out post was that the whole paying for the brand thing is an unfair argument as there is maybe a 10-15% (obviously not very sure about the numbers) markup due to name. However, this can be seen in many other industries and most of the time, these brands names are superior, whether in performance or technological advances and the way they encourage the market to stay competitive. But yeah, Mac's are pretty expensive for what you get sometimes.
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    Apple machines are luxury items, end of story. The build quality is certainly better, but you pay a premium for it when a regular PC would do the job just as well. If you can afford luxury then good for you, but otherwise you can get a PC to suit your needs for nearly half that price, and it will almost certainly have more power behind it.
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    (Original post by decatonchires)
    While I understand Apple do charge more for a computer of similar specification to a PC, your statement is a wee bit unfair. Sometimes there is no discernible equivalent to a Mac, maybe hardware-wise but certainly not build-wise. For example, you don't get many decent notebook PC's anymore, which is why I buy Macbook Pro's, although I concede, the HP 15" envy is an excellent notebook. Aluminium chassis, usb 3.0, quad-core and certain hardware advancements. I'm considering purchasing one after I see what the new Macbook Pro's look like.

    Anyway, the point of this drawn-out post was that the whole paying for the brand thing is an unfair argument as there is maybe a 10-15% (obviously not very sure about the numbers) markup due to name. However, this can be seen in many other industries and most of the time, these brands names are superior, whether in performance or technological advances and the way they encourage the market to stay competitive. But yeah, Mac's are pretty expensive for what you get sometimes.

    Maybe you've been spending too much time in currys/argos. Retailers are forceed to charge the same price for MACs everywhere, but no such rule applies for other brands. Whatever a macs got, you can get on another notebook, and significantly cheaper... appart from the OS. Have a good browse on the tinternet. I know you can certainly get quad core, if you want it so much. The only distinguishing factor i'd say is their looks...but sony vaios and some of the new samsungs look pretty nice too. don't let it's beauty blind you, haha.
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    (Original post by jjackson18624)
    Maybe you've been spending too much time in currys/argos. Retailers are forceed to charge the same price for MACs everywhere, but no such rule applies for other brands. Whatever a macs got, you can get on another notebook, and significantly cheaper... appart from the OS. Have a good browse on the tinternet. I know you can certainly get quad core, if you want it so much. The only distinguishing factor i'd say is their looks...but sony vaios and some of the new samsungs look pretty nice too. don't let it's beauty blind you, haha.
    I meant the aluminium chassis, quad-core and usb 3.0 of the HP are what I find appealing. I was basic rationalising my argument by explaining it's not the Mac name I look for, it's the solid build quality i.e. lack of flex due to the material used and the minimalistic design. For example I'm aware the Dell M17x is made of metal, however I find all the lights and plasticy and touch sens. buttons a bit tacky and gaudy.

    I agree retailers aren't given much flex with the price of Mac's but c'est la vie? That shouldn't be a reason not to purchase a product. I just want a metal, unassuming notebook with weighty specs and the only ones available are Macs (for some time), the HP Envy, and the Dell/Alienware M17x. Sorry for getting off the thread topic but I just don't want to be thought of as some apple fanboy. They build solid computers and I can afford them, so I'm happy. I don't mean to be contentious.
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    (Original post by jjackson18624)
    No.

    you're just paying for the brand
    This is completely untrue and you are extremely ignorant. There are pros and cons to both Macs and Windows machines, few of which actually matter to a typical user. However, you are certainly not "just paying for the brand". How about:

    - Superior software as standard.
    - Exclusive specialist software.
    - Standardised hardware and software (therefore no compatibility issues).
    - Superior networking.
    - Superior file management and indexing.
    - Extremely high quality, included customer service, universal warranty and guarantees on all aspects of the machine.
    - Extensive, built-in, top-quality system utilities for dual-booting, RAID, and anything else you care to mention.
    - Vastly better user interface at OS-level.

    Just for starters.
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    (Original post by Planto)
    - Superior software as standard.
    - Exclusive specialist software.
    - Standardised hardware and software (therefore no compatibility issues).
    - Superior networking.
    - Superior file management and indexing.
    - Extremely high quality, included customer service, universal warranty and guarantees on all aspects of the machine.
    - Extensive, built-in, top-quality system utilities for dual-booting, RAID, and anything else you care to mention.
    - Vastly better user interface at OS-level.
    And you were calling them ignorant? :facepalm2:

    Half of those points aren't valid[B]. While others are debatable[I].
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    I'd seriously recommend building your own with good, solid components. Every company skimps SOMEWHERE, whether it be RAM or PSU or poor cooling...

    Anyway, I built my last two PCs and my current one is literally the most reliable computer I've ever had. Getting a bit dated on the graphics front (8800GT) but, in 2 and a half years of very heavy use, it hasn't crashed or had a one virus. EVER. It's not even been wiped in that time and it runs as smoothly as ever. And it cost me a grand total of £650 - including a £300 24" monitor.

    In short, macs are a rip off. I don't mind mac laptops as they DO tend to live a bit longer and therefore the cost levels out over the life of the machine. I've killed two windows laptops in 4 years, whereas my fiancee's 4 year old mac laptop is still going strong.

    But mac desktops? ...no, never. You can build a more powerful system for half the price. 1/3 the price at a push.
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    (Original post by Bhumbauze)
    I'd seriously recommend building your own with good, solid components. Every company skimps SOMEWHERE, whether it be RAM or PSU or poor cooling...

    Anyway, I built my last two PCs and my current one is literally the most reliable computer I've ever had. Getting a bit dated on the graphics front (8800GT) but, in 2 and a half years of very heavy use, it hasn't crashed or had a one virus. EVER. It's not even been wiped in that time and it runs as smoothly as ever. And it cost me a grand total of £650 - including a £300 24" monitor.

    In short, macs are a rip off. I don't mind mac laptops as they DO tend to live a bit longer and therefore the cost levels out over the life of the machine. I've killed two windows laptops in 4 years, whereas my fiancee's 4 year old mac laptop is still going strong.

    But mac desktops? ...no, never. You can build a more powerful system for half the price. 1/3 the price at a push.
    Viruses have nothing to do with the hardware.
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    (Original post by TmanG)
    Viruses have nothing to do with the hardware.
    I know, but it's only a matter of time before someone smugly insists that "macs don't get viruses and PCs always get loads".
 
 
 
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