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    (Original post by Bhumbauze)
    I know, but it's only a matter of time before someone smugly insists that "macs don't get viruses and PCs always get loads".
    Ah I see the point. Still macs don't have viruses because they represent such a small amount of the computer community not because of any inherent operating system strength (I know someone is going to jump in and say aha its apple's nazi attitude to peripherals that prevents viuses but thats just not true) What do banks use -PCs, what do small medium and large firms use -PCs. Who uses macs? Some private individuals and design firms who want to project a certain image more than anything else. That is why hackers focus on PCs.

    About viruses just keep a clean copy of your install (with new drivers and software you use) and reinstall every 6 months or so. When i got windows 7 first thing I did was update everything install all my programs (word, adobe flash, fallout...) Add in my bookmarks and passwords etc(from old PC) and make a back up. Now I just reinstall every so often and it's like nothing changes and it only takes a couple hours (take all minor things save games word files etc on a mem stick). Antivirus software will help but is only really necessary if you work for the CIA.
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    Mac is the latest fashion at the moment. I see people who are doing degree's in English and buying a Mac, just to use Microsoft Word and the internet.

    I'm doing a photography degree and have been working alongside numerous photographers and companies in the design industry and I have always stuck with PC. The industry standard for this sector is usually Apple, but I cant justify buying a machine, half as powerful as my current set up for an extra 200 quid.

    I get the chance to work on Mac's all the time in university and am very familiar with the Mac OS, so if the time ever did come that it was necessary for me to swap over, I could do it.

    If I were you, I'd stick with PC. As long as you keep the software updated, dont download loads of crap onto the hard drive then you'll be fine and saving yourself a lot of money! Large screens are easy to come by, I bought my Samsung 22" for 170 quid and the PC tower cost me around the 400 mark.
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    I would say it's worth it, definitely. Yes, you could probably get a PC with better specs for cheaper, but at the end of the day you'll almost certainly encounter fewer annoying little problems in the long run on your iMac. Is that worth £200? That's for you to decide.
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    (Original post by Repressor)
    And you were calling them ignorant? :facepalm2:

    Half of those points aren't valid[B]. While others are debatable[I].
    Wrong. I'm not sure how you figure "standardised hardware and software" is debatable, for example. And how are you going to "debate" about whether OS X has RAID and dual-booting utilities? Yeah, none of those things are "invalid" (I'm not even convinced you know what that means) and, as for being debatable, anyone who has used both operating systems extensively for anything more than writing essays and browsing forums would likely concur with me.

    Besides, even if they were "debatable" or "invalid", whatever you think those words mean, they are still examples of reasons you might pay more for a Mac, which are absolutely nothing to do with buying a brand.

    So don't be stupid.
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    In before locking (is it possible to have a thread about apples that doesn't end up as an angry argument?)
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    I don't see why people are saying there is no difference between the two. There is. I have had "good" pc's for years, but they all end up breaking. They are a lot more easily susceptible to virus' etc. Mac's are the way forward. Better quality, better speed, better everything IMO.

    If i were you OP, I would wait until the Apple summer sale if you have enough time. I brought my mac book pro last year and I saved over £250 on it. I got a free Ipod touch with it and then sold that on Ebay, plus I got the education fee's off. Best purchase ever.
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    (Original post by TmanG)
    What do banks use -PCs, what do small medium and large firms use -PCs.
    This isn't because PC's are better. It's because Microsoft is a monopoly in the market and thus people are forced to buy them so all the software is compatible.
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    (Original post by Planto)
    This is completely untrue and you are extremely ignorant. There are pros and cons to both Macs and Windows machines, few of which actually matter to a typical user. However, you are certainly not "just paying for the brand". How about:

    - Superior software as standard.
    - Exclusive specialist software.
    - Standardised hardware and software (therefore no compatibility issues).
    - Superior networking.
    - Superior file management and indexing.
    - Extremely high quality, included customer service, universal warranty and guarantees on all aspects of the machine.
    - Extensive, built-in, top-quality system utilities for dual-booting, RAID, and anything else you care to mention.
    - Vastly better user interface at OS-level.

    Just for starters.
    Prove it.

    Superior software? OSX Snow Leopard is superior to Windows 7? Based on what? (most reviews say otherwise) ditto file management and indexing
    Superior hardware? Macs have the same components as PCs. Have you heard about the defective iMac screens recently?

    All computers have warranties for at least a year. Macs and PCs.

    Exclusive software isn't a good thing. Many programs that run on both are available sooner on Windows, or some features are (e.g. Photoshop CS4). Why do you think virtualisation is so important on mac?

    However, I think that a Mac is a lot less hassle than most PCs and generally better quality too. That's bound to be the case as there's only a few hardware configurations and they're all fully supported - it's illegal to run OSX on anything but an Apple machine. That's a strength and a weakness.

    In short, I think you're points are mostly rubbish and you're a fanboy. But I do accept that build quality is generally pretty good with Macs and things go wrong less often, as there are fewer things that can go wrong.

    Are you paying for the brand? Yes, but the product and brand go hand in hand.

    I have an iMac and a PC at home and I'm considering a Macbook Pro for university (because I think it might save me time, more than anything). iMacs are the best standalone/all-in-one computers available, but you can build a superior system and buy a better screen for a lower price.
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    A lot of mac is built on top of unix anyway...
    every one seems to forget about other operating systems other than windows and mac these days... open source software is not all crap just slapped together, loads of people use GIMP instead of photoshop, there is blender for 3d stuff, open office instead of MS office, and other software and most of it is free (all the ones i list are free and easy to get hold of)

    Mac these day just try to look 'cool' and thats what attract people to them. You can get equivalent hardware for less price, so in the end it comes down to... equivalent hardware but cheaper OR trying to be cool
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    (Original post by Magic Dust)
    This isn't because PC's are better. It's because Microsoft is a monopoly in the market and thus people are forced to buy them so all the software is compatible.
    No. Rubbish. Microsoft has a virtual monopoly on the market, with Windows - but why? People choose to buy machines running Windows.

    Virtualisation software is very important on OSX - people can run any Windows native program on a Mac.

    Why do people choose machines running Windows?
    Because they can be configured and tailored to suit their needs. And they're cheaper. The former is also a weakness - more can go wrong this way.

    If an iMac isn't suitable (because of price or form factor or whatever), what then?
    Mac Mini isn't good for much and Mac Pro is was too much for an ordinary office.
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    I'm a graphic designer so the main reason i use macs is because of the design and amazing quality of the huge display screen... but the functionality of the actual os is the best ive ever used, not to mention the fact you dont have to have an ugly tower taking up loads of space....

    But at work i use a regular PC, and i hate it. Just not as fluid to use, very clunky and if one thing goes wrong, the whole computer freezes.

    There is a reason people who get macs rarely return back to PC's

    Sure you can get a PC for half the money....and then that pc will probably break after a year (my previous imac g5 lasted 4 years without a glitch....my work pc 3 months before it completely broke)

    Completely worth the money! If you get one make sure you get apple care aswell...the customer service is excellent!

    *awaits all the pc people who will now tell me i'm 'wrong'*
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    (Original post by somebody else)
    In before locking (is it possible to have a thread about apples that doesn't end up as an angry argument?)
    Evidently not. This is incredibly tiresome guys and girls.

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