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    (Original post by tinktinktinkerbell)
    no, i KNOW that he doesnt

    I believe you. Surely with his paws he can't surf the internet.
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    (Original post by Frieza)
    I believe you. Surely with his paws he can't surf the internet.
    oh he goes on the internet
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    (Original post by Bslforever)
    That wasnt what she said. Innocent (not pronographic). She was clarifying what she ment by her use of the word innocent, not presenting a dichotomy.
    In a true dichotomy not only must 'A' imply 'Not B' and 'B' imply 'Not A', but 'Not B' also imply 'A' and 'Not A' also imply 'B'. Since 'Not B' (not pornographic) is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for 'A' (innocence), the dichotomy is false.

    Granted, this is perhaps an exercise in arrant pedantry, but the notion that any website capable of installing malicious cookies onto your browser can be deemed 'innocent' by virtue of not being pornographic (taken at face-value) is naïve enough to warrant rebuke.
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    I'd dump you. Going through his computer is not cool.
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    (Original post by tinktinktinkerbell)
    no, i KNOW that he doesnt
    How? Do you keep him chained to you 24/7? If not then you can't know.
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    (Original post by Profesh)
    If by 'watching porn' you mean 'using Facebook', or for that matter 'browsing the internet'.
    I would have specifically stated those other insinuations were they relevant.
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    (Original post by Frieza)
    I believe you. Surely with his paws he can't surf the internet.
    ohhh, I see what you did there

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Please keep anon or delete.

    My boyfriend recently left his laptop at my house. I have a long history of being cheated on and my last boyfriend was a member of a number of sex and dating websites behind my back. I'm insecure and don't have any trust, and so I ended up looking through the laptop, and in his 'cookies' I found 2 dating websites - 'Adultfriendfinder.com' and 'getiton.com'. I started to panic and I confronted him. He promised me that he hasn't been on either of the sites and that they must have been pop-up ads or something, and I believed him. I was talking to a friend about it though, and he told me that the only type of websites that those kinds of pop-ups appear on are pornography websites. My boyfriend has told me a number of times that he doesn't watch porn and hasn't done since he was a teenager. It's not him watching porn that bothers me - it's more the fact that he's hiding it from me that is getting to me.

    I realise that my behaviour isn't normal, and I am currently in therapy trying to deal with my self-esteem issues and get myself to a point where I can trust my boyfriend. I don't need anyone telling me how f***ed up this all is because I already know. What I do want to know is whether it's possible he's telling the truth. Could these pop-up ads have appeared from innocent (not pornographic) websites?? If there is any possibility it means that I will be able to trust that he hasn't lied to me and work on my relationship with him. I don't want to be with a liar, I just want an open and honest relationship.
    So he lied to you about watching porn?

    You went through his computer without his permission?

    Youre just as dishonest, if not moreso, than he is. At least he was lying for the right reasons.
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    (Original post by Profesh)
    In a true dichotomy not only must 'A' imply 'Not B' and 'B' imply 'Not A', but 'Not B' also imply 'A' and 'Not A' also imply 'B'. Since 'Not B' (not pornographic) is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for 'A' (innocence), the dichotomy is false.

    Granted, this is perhaps an exercise in arrant pedantry, but the notion that any website capable of installing malicious cookies onto your browser can be deemed 'innocent' by virtue of not being pornographic (taken at face-value) is naïve enough to warrant rebuke.

    I think you've taken what I said out of context. I meant innocent as opposed to websites that I (personally) would be unhappy with him going on/websites that he claims that he does not go on. It was a subjective concept, not an evaluation on the nature of internet webpages as a whole.
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    (Original post by halfoflessthan50p)
    ohhh, I see what you did there



    So he lied to you about watching porn?

    You went through his computer without his permission?

    Youre just as dishonest, if not moreso, than he is. At least he was lying for the right reasons.

    He doesn't mind me going though his stuff. So it's not dishonest.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Please keep anon or delete.

    My boyfriend recently left his laptop at my house. I have a long history of being cheated on and my last boyfriend was a member of a number of sex and dating websites behind my back. I'm insecure and don't have any trust, and so I ended up looking through the laptop, and in his 'cookies' I found 2 dating websites - 'Adultfriendfinder.com' and 'getiton.com'. I started to panic and I confronted him. He promised me that he hasn't been on either of the sites and that they must have been pop-up ads or something, and I believed him. I was talking to a friend about it though, and he told me that the only type of websites that those kinds of pop-ups appear on are pornography websites. My boyfriend has told me a number of times that he doesn't watch porn and hasn't done since he was a teenager. It's not him watching porn that bothers me - it's more the fact that he's hiding it from me that is getting to me.

    I realise that my behaviour isn't normal, and I am currently in therapy trying to deal with my self-esteem issues and get myself to a point where I can trust my boyfriend. I don't need anyone telling me how f***ed up this all is because I already know. What I do want to know is whether it's possible he's telling the truth. Could these pop-up ads have appeared from innocent (not pornographic) websites?? If there is any possibility it means that I will be able to trust that he hasn't lied to me and work on my relationship with him. I don't want to be with a liar, I just want an open and honest relationship.
    as much as you find it disgusting, boys are going to watch porn. we are biologically wired to plant our seeds in as many women as possible. Its better no that he watches porn then cheats on you?
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    Yes they could have appeared on non-porn sites.

    Any torrent/filesharing site is normally covered in porn adverts which will show up in co0okies...
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    OP, you ought to read this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_%...al_sciences%29
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    He doesn't mind me going though his stuff.
    Im sure he would mind if he knew you didnt trust him and you were questioning his loyalty.

    How would you feel if this situation was reversed and you were innocent?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I think you've taken what I said out of context. I meant innocent as opposed to websites that I (personally) would be unhappy with him going on/websites that he claims that he does not go on. It was a subjective concept, not an evaluation on the nature of internet webpages as a whole.
    Fair enough. Still, the answer to your original question should now be fairly obvious: a website can leverage pornographic banners and adware without being expressly pornographic.
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    (Original post by Notker)
    How? Do you keep him chained to you 24/7? If not then you can't know.
    not chained no but we are together 24/7
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    (Original post by Profesh)
    In a true dichotomy not only must 'A' imply 'Not B' and 'B' imply 'Not A', but 'Not B' also imply 'A' and 'Not A' also imply 'B'. Since 'Not B' (not pornographic) is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for 'A' (innocence), the dichotomy is false.

    Granted, this is perhaps an exercise in arrant pedantry, but the notion that any website capable of installing malicious cookies onto your browser can be deemed 'innocent' by virtue of not being pornographic (taken at face-value) is naïve enough to warrant rebuke.
    Wow. That was the most confusing explanation of a dichotomy ive ever seen!

    Dichotomy : A website is either innocent or pornographic

    this is not the dichotomy she was expressing. She was merely saying Innocent in the context of not having pornography on it. She was not saying that all websites fall into either the cateogory of innocence or the category of pornography.

    You sound like you have studied critical thinking, and have managed to get yourself ever so slightly confused.
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    How does one check cookies? I've just realised I've been watching porn on my laptop and I'd be slightly embarrassed if my boyfriend found out... I clear the history after every session but will this get rid of the cookies as well?
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    (Original post by halfoflessthan50p)
    Im sure he would mind if he knew you didnt trust him and you were questioning his loyalty.

    How would you feel if this situation was reversed and you were innocent?
    He is fully aware of my trust issues, aware of the fact that I do not trust him, and knows every detail of the past which has made me this way. So no, he doesn't mind.

    I don't know how I would feel. I'm not proud of how I am, and I know that it isn't the right way to treat him. I am doing everything I can to get through it and make myself better - therapy, medication and a ton of self-help books. But there is no easy way to repair the damage of the things that have happened to me in my past. If I could just 'snap out of it' I would, but it doesn't work like that .
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    (Original post by tinktinktinkerbell)
    not chained no but we are together 24/7
    24/7? Unless he is a spaz then I don't believe it.
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    (Original post by tinktinktinkerbell)
    no, i KNOW that he doesnt
    trust him or let him find someone that will
    Come again?
 
 
 
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