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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...gay-staff.html

    Church leaders have inflicted a humiliating defeat on the Government by overturning plans to force members of the clergy to hire gays and transsexuals.
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    Absolutely not, ever!

    Notice how Harriet Harman has aimed this new legislation particularly at Catholics? This is what makes me the most angry.
    One of the Catholic Churches fundamental teachings is that when someone wrongs you, turn the other cheek and tbh I'm fed up of liberal politically correct idiots taking advantage of this.
    She wants to make the Catholic ban of women and gay/transexual priests but where is her legislation for the Muslim community. Surely then they should be forced to drop their rules about no women Imams and also allow gay Imams? And no I have nothing against the Muslim faith!
    Why when these two religions have the same policies about these issues, is this new legislation directed solely at one? People criticise the Catholic Church for discrimination, but this is a form of discrimination in itself.

    The Catholic Church has its rules there for a reason and they have been in place for over 2000 years. Having a gay/transexual clergyman completely undermines everything the Chruch stands for and I honestly think its a disgusting attempt at trying to humiliate them.

    I don't think things will ever change though, if anything they will get worse because the Catholic Church will never be prepared to retaliate with violence, whereas some other religions live more by 'an eye for an eye'. Oh wells, I think the government see them as an easy target where there's some people they won't touch because they're scared of the backlash.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    The Church receives absolutely NO state funding. It is funded entirely out of private donations.
    And the interest/dividends/rent from its investment portfollio.
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    Iam very much a social conservative but I have a few issues with organised religions. Not just christianity but islam also.I do believe in God etc, but I sometimes wonder what Jesus for instance would think about the catholic church. I often think,do we really need to worship god in such expensive surroundings?. The church's haven't half got rich . Who was the bible written by? what agenda did they have? Would jesus, he seemed by all accounts to be quite an accepting man have objected to a Gay priest or a female Catholic priest spreading his words?

    To be honest ,I think atheism and this new religion of man made climate change is no better,perhaps worse, as certainly those who try to spread the fear of climate change have corporate and political interests. I see huge parallels actually between organised religion and all this man made climate change guff.The way they play on peoples fears.

    But anyway ,I think the government should butt out of this,nasty bunch of socialist scum that they are, but what with the scandals of not only abuse in the church but the way it was covered up I find it difficult to take the catholic church seriously when it makes a fuss about morality.
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Maybe you're already aware of this, but yes restaurants can be an exception to discrimination laws. An Indian restaurant can legally hire people who look Indian over people who don't. A chinese restaurant can legally hire chinese people over other people. They're essentially themed restaurants so they're allowed to hire people who fit the theme. But I do wonder what would happen if you tried opening a medieval themed restaurant and refused to hire non-white people. I mean these days no one's even brave enough to make a medieval film without black people.
    Crikey. Well, as long as it is applied throughout then I will no problems with themes. I read about this race issue years ago and wondered what was the update on it. So, I'll expect a news story of how a chippy owner turned down a Sikh because he didn't fit the theme.
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    (Original post by Teaddict)
    The Church receives absolutely NO state funding. It is funded entirely out of private donations.
    http://www.secularism.org.uk/state-f...-building.html
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    Nice to see discrimination is alive and well. Religion is being diluted by the day anyway. Give it 20 years and the CoE will be nowhere near as powerful as it is now. Just like it's nowhere near as powerful as it was 20 years ago.
 
 
 
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