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    ive applied to abertay to do ethical hacking & counter measures i've had condtionals from elsewhere but abertay is my 1st choice. i have an interview in feb, says its on a weds but im gonna try and move it to the friday so i can take a look around town over the weekend, think they will take a dim view of it? no point in travelling up from midlands if i cant go out on the lash afterwards:woo: . just deciding whether to go and buy a suit or will jeans and blazer do? do u think i will be able to get a tour of accommodation while im there?

    do standard rooms at alloway hall have internet or do i have to supply my own?

    are the halls mixed males and females in same flats or split into genders?

    ahh soo excited, nervous and cant wait lol.

    i really dont know what to expect from interview or the whole uni thing tbh £20+k worth of debt afterwards isnt too advertising :eek:
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    I had my interview on wednesday, I just went in my usual clothes - jeans and a top. They really don't mind, they aren't interested in your clothes lol. Yes, you do get a tour of accommodation (at least I did on my interview day anyway) which will either be Meadowside or the new ones at Parker Street student village. Alloway has some upgraded flats which have internet access included in the rent - there's a brochure for it here: http://www.abertay.ac.uk/media/media,284,en.pdf

    I'm not sure about whether or not they are mixed gender or same sex, I didn't think to ask about it! Apparently some are same sex and some are mixed, but I don't know which ones. I hope I am some help to you!
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    only meadowside is mixed genders. i think i'll turn up in a blazer, jeans, shoes. smart-casual. and what did they ask you?
    was it the usual Why here? Why this course? Personal Statement enquiries?

    what was your reply to Why this course? it seems a really corny question if i'm honest.
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    r74n, ive got my interview tomorrow and i'm thinking the best answer to the "Why this course" question is to really emphasise on how the fact that it'll give you the best possible opportunity to attain the skills to get a job in that field as your are highly interested in that particular career path. I'm planning on saying something along those lines anyway!
    As for clothes... I was planning on basically turning up in what I wear to school, minus any school ties or badges.
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    hello, im currently on eth hacking & CMS and did my interview this time last year. the people interviewing you are very friendly (probably natalie or colin) and although i saw some people in suits at my interview (really!) i just wore my normal clothes, although i did have a haircut and stuff especially as to look smart

    the questions were mainly just about the jump from college to university, past experiences and motives. stuff im sure you would expect but really just try to get across you have a passion for the subject and that you have done related stuff before. surprisingly there were clearing spots this year even though i had heard it was one of the most difficult courses to get on at Abertay; it seemed like of the 250 something that applied last year only 35 or so actually got accepted and 5 through clearing.

    good luck with it and i'm sure if you're genuine you'll get a spot. feel free to pm me if you have any course specific or Dundee specific questions as I've also lived here all my life.
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    what uni halls did u stay at?
    was it mixed sex?
    did u have internet included in rent?
    anything you didnt consider when choosing accomodation u wished you had?

    is the course what you expected? if not why not.
    do you get given a reading list? (i've read books by kevin mitnick not that they're relevant as it is mainly social engineering) if not could u glance over what youve covered this year.

    as im there for the weekend too do you reccomend any good places to go to. i prefer a good pub/bar instead of a nightclub.

    are there many jobs available for students?

    is there a scottish/english divide within the students? everyone (aka friends/family) are saying the english get battered all the time up there. lol dunno if there winding me up

    and finally, sorry ive gone on a bit too much

    did u apply for more than one ethical hacking course when applying through UCAS and what made you choose abertay over the rest?
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    I'm currently in year 3 of the course, so hopefully I can answer some of your questions.

    what uni halls did u stay at?
    I stayed at Alloway
    was it mixed sex?
    It was single sex in each flat, however each building had a mix.
    did u have internet included in rent?
    Internet wasn't, however the £20 per month wasn't too bad split 8 ways (the only issue is you can only go with BT who may want £125 for putting in a phone line). There are now some flats with internet.
    anything you didnt consider when choosing accomodation u wished you had?
    Not really, it was mainly ok! I probably should have double checked bus times and cost (£80ish per term isn't too bad). The last buses in Dundee are at around 11pm, and a taxi to Alloway costs about £5.

    Quite a few of my mates stayed in Heathfield which is University of Dundee accommodation - I think most of their loan went on rent though, so they had to get money from parents as well.

    is the course what you expected? if not why not.
    I found some elements of the course rather dull and not really related to hacking. I think some of these have been removed now. Also the hacking skills taught aren't that comprehensive.
    do you get given a reading list? (i've read books by kevin mitnick not that they're relevant as it is mainly social engineering) if not could u glance over what youve covered this year.
    Some of the modules have a recommended book. I think for programming there's a C# book. The first year of hacking is RPC hacks on Windows XP I think, and then there's a mini project where you can look at whatever you want and produce a whitepaper on it.
    Other modules will be introductory programming, basics of the PC (which if it's the same as when I did it is exceedingly dull), networking, web pages and databases.

    as im there for the weekend too do you reccomend any good places to go to. i prefer a good pub/bar instead of a nightclub.
    The student union isn't too bad (it has 2 bars), there's also a Wetherspoon's pub just round the corner. There's also some good pubs on the Nethergate (both at the East and West ends of town). Additionally there's a couple of casinos if that takes your fancy.

    are there many jobs available for students?
    The student union usually recruits over the summer and there's a couple of supermarkets (3x Tesco, 2x Asda, Morrisons) around the city. The university also has a job shop listing various jobs available. Of course you would be competing with Dundee Uni students for the jobs as well.

    is there a scottish/english divide within the students? everyone (aka friends/family) are saying the english get battered all the time up there. lol dunno if there winding me up
    I haven't encountered any divide within the students, and never been battered myself (nor have any of my English mates). It probably happens from time to time, but only by pissed up NEDs I'd have thought.


    did u apply for more than one ethical hacking course when applying through UCAS and what made you choose abertay over the rest?

    Abertay was my only hacking course choice, so I chose that solely because it offered hacking.
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    thank you sooo much, rep given.

    did you have an previous programming skill before applying for the course?

    i got my interview weds, the uni couldnt rearrange my interview so im up there Wednesday now. is that student night? cant believe m8 pulled out of comin up with me guess im out on the lash on my own lol... its cuz im cool
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    had interview, it went really well i think, was definately over dressed in a suit tho lol.

    ended up in westy's and some pub next door, they wouldnt let me in the union as im not a student grr! but fat sams and the dog house was good too.
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    what did they ask in the interview?
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    just why you want to do the course?
    why at abertay?
    they really like you to ask questions.
    i asked about sections of the course i was confident in maintaining a conversation in such as port scanning and the cisco ccna qualification. also some of the tools ive come across as a hobbyist (e.g. NMAP, Ettercap) i also asked about pass rates so i could compare to other uni's that offer ethical hacking he seemed impressed by it. i got a conditional offer on a condition that is less than what there prospectus states so i assume my interview went well. he actually said "i cant think of anything to ask you." and there was 2 interviewers lol

    they were very friendly and approachable. and the letter they send is true it is an INFORMAL MEETING
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    thx mate

    it is also my first choice

    hopefully see you there
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    Hey there

    I had my interview today, went fairly well, although I got thrown off by the interviewers question, as it had no real context it was just "how would you secure your network." I continued by asking in what context , what exactly am I securing, of course i'd need more info its too wide of a question.

    I felt a bit more at ease as their was two interviewers, but at the same time they know your nervous they can just tell if its for you or not by the way you respond.

    Fingers crossed il be joining you this september, if not il be back same time next year to apply again. In the meantime sitting the C.E.H exam through prometric.

    as for the acc, Student flats in either campus are OK, The heatfield one is pretty sweet, grand sized rooms, all inc, bathroom shower to yourself etc.. really fast broadband, only downside is you cant choose your flatmates...

    If youve got money or just wise with it, you should look into private renting here as theres alot of nice flats in town and lots of nice Hmo's going cheap. I'm currently living for about £300 a month all inc in a fancy attic conversion overlooking Llyods bar right in the city centre, place is kitted out and only 2 of us here..

    all in all i liked Colin (the course instructor) although hes a bit of a windows geek hes quite a chilled out guy and easy to learn from.

    GL with your interviews.. We be celebrating for Paddys day look out for me
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    (Original post by r74n)
    ive applied to abertay to do ethical hacking & counter measures i've had condtionals from elsewhere but abertay is my 1st choice. i have an interview in feb, says its on a weds but im gonna try and move it to the friday so i can take a look around town over the weekend, think they will take a dim view of it? no point in travelling up from midlands if i cant go out on the lash afterwards:woo: . just deciding whether to go and buy a suit or will jeans and blazer do? do u think i will be able to get a tour of accommodation while im there?

    do standard rooms at alloway hall have internet or do i have to supply my own?

    are the halls mixed males and females in same flats or split into genders?

    ahh soo excited, nervous and cant wait lol.

    i really dont know what to expect from interview or the whole uni thing tbh £20+k worth of debt afterwards isnt too advertising :eek:


    You could always hack into the Student loans company after your course and change your balance from minus £20k to zero. :woo:
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    I'm an applicant for the course, so I'll try to answer your questions with the information I know.

    What uni halls did u stay at?
    I'm applying for the new halls in the City Centre, five minutes away. See www.opalstudents.co.uk for more information - look under the Dundee heading.

    Was it mixed sex?
    Individual apartments are same sex (I think) but the building itself is mixed.

    Was internet included in the rent?
    In the new halls it is, as well as electricity and other utility bills such as heat and water. Basic 2mb/s connection in all rooms, with the option to upgrade to 50mb/s for an additional fee.

    Do you get given a reading list?
    In the tour around the college, we were told that there is no set reading list, and you don't have to buy any books - all relevent texts are already on the virtual library for reference whenever you need them (props to the lecturers for this).

    Do you recommend any good places to go?
    The Counting House is a legendary place to go for a night out - cheap booze, awesome talent and they do a damn fine steak night on Tuesdays. Me and my friends managed to drain the bar of every bottle of Jager they had the night before our interviews. Other places include the Student Unions for both Unis (Abertay Union having a bar on all three floors), and different bars and smaller clubs dotted around the City Centre. In short, there's no shortage of great places to go.

    Did you apply for more than one ethical hacking course? What made you choose Abertay?
    I only applied for the Abertay course, given that it is the point of origin for the other courses dotted around the UK. Where better to get the knowledge of the subject than the person who designed it?

    I hope this helps; obviously, I left out some of your questions as I don't have the relevant knowledge for answering them. As a side note, have any of you been made offers yet, conditional or otherwise?
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    .Hello Guy's......I Wish To Apply For Abertay University's Undergraduate Course In Ethical Hacking & Countermeasures (2012) ....Can Anyone Over Here Tell Me What All Qualifications Required For Overseas Student....I Am Originally From India....So Can Anyone Please Tell Me The Indian Qualifications Required To Apply There.....Please..!!
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    @kan1shk - I am unaware of what qualifications are required for an international student, but all the information regarding your question can be found on the course's entry on Abertay's own website.

    @Noktec - As far as I'm aware, buffer overflows and SQL injections are both covered by the syllabus. Not sure about Advanced XSS.
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    I know this a little late, but I think it is worth adding. I arrived at the interview a bit worse for wear since I didn't sleep the night before because I was a bit nervous about the journey up there. (I live in Cheltenham which is about 400 miles away from dundee) I flew up there with an easyjet flight from Bristol to Edinburgh (with the indignities of airport security) and then a train from Edinburgh to Dundee, I arrived 3 hours before the interview so I went into the city centre for a bit and lunch and got back in time for the interview. During the interview they asked me a question about what did I do in forensic computing lessons and I completely forgot, in part because of no sleep and travelling and the other part where the teacher for that lesson was constantly absent and we didn't do anything. I also had to cut the tour short because my train back was leaving. Too bad I missed it by 30 seconds and had to pay another £20 for a ticket to Edinburgh. I caught the flight back with little incident but when I got back home I was knackered, in hindsight I should of stayed the night. The next morning I was watching BBC points west and they were at Bristol airport showing it empty because of the ash cloud. It turned out I was on the last flight out of Edinburgh before British airspace close. lol.

    They gave me a lowish offer of MMP and I exceeded it with a DDM meaning I have an unconditional offer, now I have to battle to get some kind of accommodation. Since the link on OASIS wasn't there until last Monday. I seem to be at the back of the list, so fingers crossed to see if I get in somewhere.
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    Wow, that sounds like an awful day. I had to travel 4 hours by train to get there and it was just as bad, almost missed my train and had no sleep.

    Good luck on the accommodation, any idea where you're applying to? Maybe best to email the uni asking for any advice.
 
 
 
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