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Why do killers achieve cult status and adoration? (Tatsuya Ichihashi) watch

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    I was reading the lovely sensationalist paper that is the Daily Mail when I stumbled across an interesting article on the death of the British teacher Lindsay Ann Hawker who was stabbed, raped and then buried in a bath of sand by her student Tatsuya Ichihashi. You can read an excerpt from the article below in the spoiler:

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    Japanese women have set up online fan clubs idolising the jobless student accused of murdering British teacher Lindsay Ann Hawker

    Tatsuya Ichihashi, 30, was arrested in Osaka in November after spending more than two-and-a-half years as a fugitive.

    He now faces the death penalty for the rape and murder of Miss Hawker, whose body was found buried in a bath of sand on the balcony of his Tokyo apartment in March 2007.

    But despite the horrific nature of the allegations, Ichihashi has become a cult hero to hundreds of Japanese fans.

    Social networking sites Mixi and 2Channel have been innundated with admirers who have awarded him elevated nicknames, such as Ichi-sama (Lord Ichi) and Tobo Oji (the fugitive prince).

    Some content themselves with lavishing him with praise while others have fantasised about having sex with him.

    Bizarrely, some supporters claim he could not have murdered Miss Hawker, 22, as he looks 'too kind.'

    'When he was arrested, I thought his dishevelled black hair and the line along his neck to his jaw made him look so sexy,' one blogger wrote.

    'He's really cool!', another added.

    Bloggers have made much of a report that he had been very upset when the family pet died.

    'Ichi-same was so cute to have wept buckets when his family's dog died,' one woman wrote.

    The Gyotoku police station where Ichihashi is awaiting trial has also been struggling to deal with a slew of fan mail - including a woman who arrived to deliver an album of dog photographs.

    Masumi Kurata, an expert on criminals and cults in Japan, said: 'From his image on wanted posters, Ichihashi seemed like a hunk, and I suppose this had a strong impact on young women.

    Read the rest: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...nn-Hawker.html



    Like many killers (Charles Manson, Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy, Armin Meiwes, etc), Tatsuya Ichihashi has now attracted adoration, infatuation and fascination.

    We often claim to be repulsed by the actions of killers, yet why are we so interested in them? Pop into Waterstones and they have sections dedicated to books on killers. Browse the internet and you come across fan pages and youtube videos dedicated to the Columbine killers. Read the newspapers and there too they are sensationalised and put into the limelight.

    What drives the obsession and interest in killers? Why are we fascinated with books, movies, and games about killing people and why have real life killers become near enough objects of worship?

    Perhaps people can offer their own perspectives :yep:
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    Because we all theoretically could pick up a knife from the kitchen and kill someone in the street, so it's interesting to see what happens to people who actually do. It's also interesting to see how normal people react in extraordinary circumstances. So essentially it's mostly our curiosity and noseyness, but the media can contribute, as in this story from the onion:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...n_had_sex_with
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    He's hot, that's why. 30 years old? :O
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    (Original post by near_comatose)
    He's hot, that's why. 30 years old? :O
    He attracts adoration cos he's hot? :confused:

    One presumes JW Gacy isn't going to get much fan mail if it's all about the looks.

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    Ted Bundy had tons of women go to his trial everyday to look at him and filrt with him.

    To be fair, this has happened to men aswell. A famous child killer coming to mind and one man who was obsessed with her.

    Hmm, I think its probably that girls like to go for dominate men and being a killer is very dominating. However, that is also true for a lot men(obviously, dominated women).
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    I don't know about other killers but Japan is a verry weird place so I'm not entirely surprised [/ends stereotypical assumption]
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    (Original post by boomchickawowwow)
    Because we all theoretically could pick up a knife from the kitchen and kill someone in the street, so it's interesting to see what happens to people who actually do. It's also interesting to see how normal people react in extraordinary circumstances. So essentially it's mostly our curiosity and noseyness, but the media can contribute, as in this story from the onion:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...n_had_sex_with
    You do know that theonion news network is a parody.

    P.S. That was really funny.
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    (Original post by fire2burn)
    He attracts adoration cos he's hot? :confused:

    One presumes JW Gacy isn't going to get much fan mail if it's all about the looks.

    Well the article did say:
    Some content themselves with lavishing him with praise while others have fantasised about having sex with him.

    Bizarrely, some supporters claim he could not have murdered Miss Hawker, 22, as he looks 'too kind.'

    'When he was arrested, I thought his dishevelled black hair and the line along his neck to his jaw made him look so sexy,' one blogger wrote.


    I guess it's because it's not done very often, and like the poster above said it's interesting to know who did it and why - the who psychological aspect to it. It's also a display of power to be able to take someone's life away, and people are obviously interested in power with top 20 billionaire rankings, dictators legacy's etc.
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    People like grisly things. It's why the London Dungeon is so popular, or the Saw films, or the executioner's block in the Tower of London.
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    Possibly...

    Because everyone is scared in Japan to act outside of the normalities, encased in stone and traditionalised for centuries.

    出る杭は打たれる

    A protruding nail will be hammered down, to effect. It's archaic, though it's practise still exists as strong as ever. A good example would be the Yamanote Halloween party, hosted every year. 山手線

    Mostly foreigners, however a lot of Japanese take part too. They essentially go wild and scare the salarymen and obaa-sans riding the train that night. This is because society almost prohibits them doing so normally. There's an excuse.

    Back to Ichihasi; he did something many hentai fantasize about, either for hope to do it, or just because it's a fetish. He broke out of everything about what Japanese people have ingrained in them. A lot of it could even be about this fact, not the specific details.

    P.S: I didn't read the link much, though I'm familiar with the story.

    Oh, and:

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    Japan is the largest consumer of cartoon child tentacle porn... They do weird stuff like this.
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    (Original post by Pickford)
    Japan is the largest consumer of cartoon child tentacle porn... They do weird stuff like this.
    Hardly a reason for it. Ted Bundy had fans at his trial, Charles Manson too, the Columbine killers have fan pages and videos on the net. It's hardly just a Japanese thing.

    I'm just interested in why on the one hand people deplore killers as sick, whilst on the other they're worshipped and everyone enjoys reading about them.
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    Some people just like non-conformism. Ironic that they are simply conforming to a different set of values, rather than not conforming at all.
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    What he did is something out of an anime kinda of thing, thats why the japanese adore him, he looks like the main character of death note lol
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    I like reading about killers, I hardly 'worship' them though, only nutcases would do that. It's perfectly possible to be interested in the subject without losing sight of what they've actually done, in moralistic terms.
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    cos they gain infamy and fame for doing so.... It's true, regardless of how bad or terrible whatever the killing is

    think of Hitler, one of the most genuinely infamous people ever
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    Gonna go with the Japan is weird thing mentioned earlier [/also ending stereotypical assumptions]
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    Yeah I've watched a silly amount of serial killer programmes in my time.....Ted Bundy is a legend...when watching documentaries on him I just can't help thinking what a legend.

    a classic tribute

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8doZ7fx8y4c
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    ted really is the best modern day killer.....well respected university pupil...getting into politics....escaped from prison twice I think....nearly 3 but got stuck in the ventilation...maybe escaped once and got stuck in the ventilation the 2nd time. Was his own lawyer for his trial. Cocky as hell for his trial and to the police officers. He was good looking and the women loved him...he was banging all his female fans when he was in prison.

    Watch the A&E documentary on him....it's hard not to love him...it obviously has a few blips like killing 36 people and one of them being a 7 year old girl(i think she's that age)...but apart from that it's all sh*ts and giggles.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfIpMRfNzc

    Don't watch natural porn killer.....he just lies all the way through it.
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    (Original post by Hugh-Jackman)
    ted really is the best modern day killer.....well respected university pupil...getting into politics....escaped from prison twice I think....nearly 3 but got stuck in the ventilation...maybe escaped once and got stuck in the ventilation the 2nd time. Was his own lawyer for his trial. Cocky as hell for his trial and to the police officers. He was good looking and the women loved him...he was banging all his female fans when he was in prison.

    Watch the A&E documentary on him....it's hard not to love him...it obviously has a few blips like killing 36 people and one of them being a 7 year old girl(i think she's that age)...but apart from that it's all sh*ts and giggles.

    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfIpMRfNzc

    Don't watch natural porn killer.....he just lies all the way through it.
    Ta for posting the vid. Will give it a watch whilst I eat my breakfast.

    First comment I read on that video "I hate woman. good job Ted. "
 
 
 
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