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Im off to bed, godbless all and hope this had brought an insight to my faith.
Democracy
Why is it that everyone except fundamentalists can shut up and keep their beliefs personal? Do you think the rest of us aren't proud or content with our beliefs? Do you think you're the first person to discover religion?

Please stop insulting our collective intelligence.

Its because we feel the need to save others, especially people who are in bad situations. Ive heard countless testimonies of people who have come to my church after being invited for a service and have now seen their life transformed. Its not like your forced so i dont see the problem.
Democracy
Why is it that everyone except fundamentalists can shut up and keep their beliefs personal? Do you think the rest of us aren't proud or content with our beliefs?


Who are you refering to as fundamentalist? I can't answer you're question properly until you give me your definition of a fundamentalist.

I do not think that, but if you are so content why are you so unhappy for your beliefs to be challenged? The OP is expressing how she feels, that does not prevent you from expressing your beliefs or choosing not to.. faith and belief is a personal thing, but it is also something very shareable with others therein lies xtian fellowship etc..

I see you edited you're original post, in further answer, she might not be the first person to discover religion but as its the first time SHE has discovered it, again why can't she share?

Would also like to know how in any way you're intelligence has been insulted..? I'd rather think I was the sane one when people kick off over nothing...
Reply 64
I was hoping this would be porn. There has been no porn threads on tsr tonight :frown:.
Reply 65
i like the video you posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYLxPByRZjg but I prefer the acoustic version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJsUMkmrhg You're definitely right about relationship over religion-Jesus is personal and should be represented in that way and people should not just be told about his love but given the chance to experience it for themselves and then make up their their own minds about who he is. :h:

I LOVE JESUS :smile::woo:
Blimey, I've never seen so many Christians in one thread before. Where are you guy when I need you??

And to all the Christians (at least I'm assuming they are) who are complaining about "happy clappy" youth and saying they give the rest of us a bad name - I don't think the insults you're throwing around are doing us any favors either. Learn to accept that different people approach their faith in their own ways. Division like that is one of the biggest things that turn people off of Christianity.


Aeolus
The only reason you think you have a relationship with Jesus is because you happened to be born in a majority christian country.

Majority Christian country?

Surely you're not talking about Britain.
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yoyo462001
Its because we feel the need to save others,




Define 'save'.
Reply 68
I'm kind of feeling sorry for Jesus now.
Reply 69
Delta Usafa

Majority Christian country?

Surely you're not talking about Britain.




Christianity is the most widely followed of the major religions in GB. Not to mention the state religion.
Aeolus
Christianity is the most widely followed of the major religions in GB. Not to mention the state religion.

Yes, but religion in GB is not widely followed.
Oh and heres my story of my life before I go. My testimony

I was just sitting on face book and thought this would be a good idea, to share my testimony with the world.

I was brought up in a Christian family and went to church and youth groups up to the age of 14, then a lot change at this point in my life. My mum had cheated on my dad causing a lot of hurt in the family. Soon after that they were divorced and this shook my world. Going from one place to the other not having much communication with my family I struggled with depression.

Finally a year or two later I was just about to leave school to go to college and on the way home I went to see my sister at church, that day I broke down in tears and told her of the heartache I had, the nights that I could not sleep as all I could see was evil things. A couple months on I went on an encounter and felt amazing, got baptised and so on. This never lasted long, maybe even just over half a year. I started to go out to get drunk and chase after guys, as this did not fit under my fathers household I moved out at the age of 16. The very first night I moved out I ended up getting drunk beyond belief and ended up in hospital. But not even that could stop me I was on the path of destruction. Later in that summer I was of to study Nq media and met my ex boyfriend on this course. I thought ahhh my life is so dandy… hah that only lasted for maybe a year. My relationship was a mess, I moved in with him after 7 months. In October 2008 things started to change, every night in bed I’d see hell in my eyes… I would turn to my ex boyfriend and ask what do you think happens when you die, he said you will not know about it so don’t worry about it. That set me into tears and knew that the only way was Jesus.

After 10 months of the vision I kept having to build up the courage to break up my 2 year relationship, not to forget we just moved into our 2nd flat 2 months ago. I tried multiple times to break things up but in the end I was just a wuss, but one night I did it and from that night ive been filled with the love of god and have been blessed in so many ways, and you know what I am not lonely at all, actually I’m the happiest ive ever been. I've got my body confidence back and the best group of people around me ever.

My testimony may be long but in the end I got to god, once you have been on the path of god YOU will be back, nothing can EVER fill the void, trust me :wink:


Can I also just mention that to all you guys and girls, no partner is worth the pain of not having a relationship with jesus, God helped me in this break up so much, there was only 3 real days of pain then I felt renewed, god had helped me move on so fast. Even though I was emotionally disconnect from my ex for that year of visions it was still hard to break-up, but boy was it worth the joy I have now.
Reply 72
LOL, okay. I have a friendly relationship with Poseidon. He's teaching me the mechanics of swimming, which will ultimately lead me to beating Michael Phelps.
Reply 73
Underoath are great.
Reply 74
Delta Usafa
Division like that is one of the biggest things that turn people off of Christianity.




Lol, i think theres alot more which turns off individuals from following your teachings, than the division which exists within.
Delta Usafa
Blimey, I've never seen so many Christians in one thread before. Where are you guy when I need you??

And to all the Christians (at least I'm assuming they are) who are complaining about "happy clappy" youth and saying they give the rest of us a bad name - I don't think the insults you're throwing around are doing us any favors either. Learn to accept that different people approach their faith in their own ways. Division like that is one of the biggest things that turn people off of Christianity.



Majority Christian country?

Surely you're not talking about Britain.



When do you need us? hehe I'm not complaining about happy-clappy youth, can't say I really see any happy-clappy youth either so I'm a little confused. I just see people who wanna worship? :s-smilie:

If you see the last census (yes I know we're due another one a year in april) Christianity was still the predominant religion though Uk is becoming increasingly secular.

Guessing you're a Christian too? :smile:
Reply 76
Yazr
Hah Im not religeous.... I have a relationship with god its simple. If you dont understand im sorry http://www.gotquestions.org/personal-relationship-with-God.html read this for answers.


You are religious, by definition:

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=religion

I could claim that I am not human but unless I am using an imaginary definition of the word that does not make it so.
yoyo462001
Its because we feel the need to save others, especially people who are in bad situations. Ive heard countless testimonies of people who have come to my church after being invited for a service and have now seen their life transformed.


Save the teary eyed nonsense for someone else.

Its not like your forced so i dont see the problem.


Well actually...yes, you are. Do you think ANYONE on TSR is unaware of Christianity? Do you think we need the Christian dawah squad to start proslityzing?

She's just harping on about it because she's a fundamentalist. End of.

rainbowbex
Who are you refering to as fundamentalist? I can't answer you're question properly until you give me your definition of a fundamentalist.


Anyone who attends a "radical" church, of which I have much experience, is hardcore fundamentalist.

I do not think that, but if you are so content why are you so unhappy for your beliefs to be challenged?


:wtf:

You cannot be serious. My unwillingness to be preached at is a subconcious indication of my unhappiness? :rofl:

You remind me of the I-Soc kids on campus who come up to me and say "My Brother, I see you are unhappy deep down, if you follow Allah he can give you real contendness". You're all the same, all of you treat me like an ignorant simpleton who needs to be converted.

Unfortunately for the OP and the I-Soc "brothers", I am well aware of what you all believe in, I just choose not to follow it. Is that so hard for you all to understand?

The OP is expressing how she feels, that does not prevent you from expressing your beliefs or choosing not to.. faith and belief is a personal thing, but it is also something very shareable with others therein lies xtian fellowship etc..


The OP did not start a philosophical debate on Christian theology, like a teenage YWAM activist she began pontificating about Jesus as if he's her best buddy and not in fact the Son of God.

If I want you to share your faith with me, be assured that I'll ask. Until then, please keep it to yourself. Otherwise you are treating me like an idiot who's to stupid to figure things out for themself and actively needs to be preached at.
Yazr
Oh and heres my story of my life before I go. My testimony

I was just sitting on face book and thought this would be a good idea, to share my testimony with the world.

I was brought up in a Christian family and went to church and youth groups up to the age of 14, then a lot change at this point in my life. My mum had cheated on my dad causing a lot of hurt in the family. Soon after that they were divorced and this shook my world. Going from one place to the other not having much communication with my family I struggled with depression.

Finally a year or two later I was just about to leave school to go to college and on the way home I went to see my sister at church, that day I broke down in tears and told her of the heartache I had, the nights that I could not sleep as all I could see was evil things. A couple months on I went on an encounter and felt amazing, got baptised and so on. This never lasted long, maybe even just over half a year. I started to go out to get drunk and chase after guys, as this did not fit under my fathers household I moved out at the age of 16. The very first night I moved out I ended up getting drunk beyond belief and ended up in hospital. But not even that could stop me I was on the path of destruction. Later in that summer I was of to study Nq media and met my ex boyfriend on this course. I thought ahhh my life is so dandy… hah that only lasted for maybe a year. My relationship was a mess, I moved in with him after 7 months. In October 2008 things started to change, every night in bed I’d see hell in my eyes… I would turn to my ex boyfriend and ask what do you think happens when you die, he said you will not know about it so don’t worry about it. That set me into tears and knew that the only way was Jesus.

After 10 months of the vision I kept having to build up the courage to break up my 2 year relationship, not to forget we just moved into our 2nd flat 2 months ago. I tried multiple times to break things up but in the end I was just a wuss, but one night I did it and from that night ive been filled with the love of god and have been blessed in so many ways, and you know what I am not lonely at all, actually I’m the happiest ive ever been. I've got my body confidence back and the best group of people around me ever.

My testimony may be long but in the end I got to god, once you have been on the path of god YOU will be back, nothing can EVER fill the void, trust me :wink:


Can I also just mention that to all you guys and girls, no partner is worth the pain of not having a relationship with jesus, God helped me in this break up so much, there was only 3 real days of pain then I felt renewed, god had helped me move on so fast. Even though I was emotionally disconnect from my ex for that year of visions it was still hard to break-up, but boy was it worth the joy I have now.



**big hug** I say again. PM me if you want to talk.
Y__
I'm kind of feeling sorry for Jesus now.


Me too. Quite possibly one of the greatest men to ever walk the Earth is constantly being defamed by his moronic fan club.

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