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    (Original post by </Tom>)
    Yes I do, and science agrees with me.
    Care to link me to some peer reviewed papers then?
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    (Original post by vas876)
    No it does not mate.

    Science says cannabis is more dangerous then ecstasy.
    Woah, don't get ahead of yourself, I said it should be lower on the chart posted. I didn't say anything about it being more/less dangerous than ecstasy.
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    (Original post by </Tom>)
    Woah, don't get ahead of yourself, I said it should be lower on the chart posted. I didn't say anything about it being more/less dangerous than ecstasy.
    ok, which of those below is more harmful?
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    ok, which of those below is more harmful?
    Let's look at death tolls to decide

    Cannabis: http://www.psychoactive.org.uk/cannabis/statistics.htm

    Solvents: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3122706820070531

    4MTA: Couldn't find anything significant.

    LSD: As above.

    Ritalin: Hell it has a website dedicated to it; http://www.ritalindeath.com/

    Anabolic steroids: http://www.archivesofpathology.org/d...S%3E2.0.CO%3B2

    E: http://www.addictionservicesguide.co...failure_38.asp


    tl;dr cannabis zero deaths, others have, bar LSD and MTA4.
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    (Original post by </Tom>)
    Cannabis shouldn't be that high up. I call bs on your chart.
    It's more to do with effect on society....eg if someone smokes weed loads and loads and everyday they can get mental problems...lots of people do smoke it everyday...hence lots of mental problem. With pills people might take them at the weekend or at a rave once a month at festivals etc and not regular hence minimal effects.....If someone started taking pills most days they'd be an utter mess.
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    (Original post by </Tom>)
    Let's look at death tolls to decide

    Cannabis: http://www.psychoactive.org.uk/cannabis/statistics.htm

    Solvents: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3122706820070531

    4MTA: Couldn't find anything significant.

    LSD: As above.

    Ritalin: Hell it has a website dedicated to it; http://www.ritalindeath.com/

    Anabolic steroids: http://www.archivesofpathology.org/d...S%3E2.0.CO%3B2

    E: http://www.addictionservicesguide.co...failure_38.asp


    tl;dr cannabis zero deaths, others have, bar LSD and MTA4.

    On AS from the study you quoted 'The number of autopsy cases of sudden and unexpected death associated with AAS use is not sufficient to establish whether or not an AAS cardiotoxicity exists or to explain the mechanism of the sudden cardiac arrest.'

    Ie no confirmed link so not proven AS can cause increase risk of cardiac arrest.

    And none of the others are papers. Also deaths are not the only bad outcomes of a drug.
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    Rofl, you've got it all backwards

    also your diet is ****.

    You're fat because you eat like a fatty.

    Seriously, cheese and sausage baguette, after drinking, cheese salad pitta? hahahahahahaha

    your diet is horrible and you're a fat **** because you don't watch what you eat at all.

    you carb hoover.
    Lol I was waiting for someone to say something like this as I never said thats my regular diet did i? and I never said I had the baguette AFTER eating, the baguette was at 4pm the day before.

    Though theres no point arguing with a troll since you posted anon as you knew people would leave you neg feedback.

    I am actually watching what I eat more than many thin people, this is a "bad week" I love salads and eat them whenever I get a chance, I love eating cereal, I love many healthy things actually.

    Most weeks I do live on carbs kinda of but basically eat little, I never really eat stuff like bacon, chips. burgers(last week was a one off since I had friends round most days of the weekend) etc

    Or I live off say ravioli and bread one day, savoury rice the next, chicken pieces in salad next etc, or noodles some days or macaroni cheese.

    Sure a lot of carbs there but I am not living off sweets, fried foods etc.
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    My uncle took E's maybe 3 times at the most and it has royally ****** him up. (Paranoia, anxiety disorder etc). They shouldn't mess with your weight, though. Drugs are a dodgy subject, some people can take them for years and have nothing happen and others just one trip and they are destroyed. :shrug:
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    Wow there's lots of crap on this thread

    E's/MDMA do not really harm you in the short term. You could take it for everyday for weeks and stop; it does nothing to you long-term. But if you take it for a long time (more then a year) it messes up your homeostasis. So to the first poster, no the E's are not the problem, just go to the gym don't diet, diets are just a quick fix, they get you to that "nice weight" but you'll end up just going back once you've finished your diet because most are not healthy at all. Swimming and rowing machines are the best for this. They use most muscles while not over doing it on each muscle; they build up your stamina and tone you while not enlarging your muscles and burn fat. If you feel like your not thinking normally go ask for your doctor for help. If you don't like what he says, ask for another doctor.

    To the other poster's. Drugs. They change your homeostasis. Some more then others, they mimic organic chemicals that fit into receptors.

    In terms of damage to mental state alcohol (ethanol) closely followed by heroin is most likely the worst taken every day in large amounts over a long term and nicotine being the best (as mentality it is a very gentle drug that does not give you much of a high).

    In terms of physical damage again alcohol closely followed by tobacco being worsted if taken in large amounts every day and Magic Mushrooms and LSD being the best (please note people normally don't take these two on a long term basis because they have a bad trip).

    In terms of addiction nicotine (please don't say heroin. its simply not true, its addictive to start but giving up the symptoms can go away within days to a week, where nicotine can take months, and normally with heroin the symptoms are much more Psychological rather then pure addiction symptoms) with the best being LSD closely followed by Magic Mushrooms.
 
 
 
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