Wsfsb Or Ss Watch

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which one is best for someone who is a relatively inexperienced lifter?
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Id say SS, really helps you get the big lifts down without distractions.
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Id say SS, really helps you get the big lifts down without distractions.
ok cheers. does anyone have personal experience from doing both of them?
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Yeah ive done them both. Started with SS and did WSFSB more recently. One big difference for me was due to other training that I do. I found SS VERY hard to do with a cardio programme because your legs are getting beasted so often. WSFSB was relatively easier for using mid-season as it were, whereas Id consider SS to be more off season.
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Yeah ive done them both. Started with SS and did WSFSB more recently. One big difference for me was due to other training that I do. I found SS VERY hard to do with a cardio programme because your legs are getting beasted so often. WSFSB was relatively easier for using mid-season as it were, whereas Id consider SS to be more off season.
yeah, it says do squats 3 times a week. i was thinking wouldnt that lead to overtraining a bit? 2 days isnt really enough for legs to recover from doing a few sets of heavy squats not for me anyway.
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you'll recover providing you eat and get enough sleep.

I don't like wsfsb, too much choice for a beginner and a lot of it seems pretty complex too. And not many gyms have the stuff needed for what they recommend.
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yeah, it says do squats 3 times a week. i was thinking wouldnt that lead to overtraining a bit? 2 days isnt really enough for legs to recover from doing a few sets of heavy squats not for me anyway.
It doesn't. Thousands upon thousands of guys use SS for several months. Even already strong ones. There are some (very gifted) 450lb squatters still on SS.
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It doesn't. Thousands upon thousands of guys use SS for several months. Even already strong ones. There are some (very gifted) 450lb squatters still on SS.
is it worth ordering the SS book? or is there enough info on the website?
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Both are great programs. I'd go as far as saying any of Rippetoe's books are worth ordering except Mean Old Mr. Gravity which I haven't read and as I understand it all the content is online anyway.
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I'd get the books.
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I'd get the books.
Are you on SS or have you moved onto texas?
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is SS still good for someone who is primarily interested in aesthetics and not just strength?
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is SS still good for someone who is primarily interested in aesthetics and not just strength?
yup milk it till you can't progress then jump on to a body building split.

might as well lay down the foundations
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wtf are these acronyms?
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wtf are these acronyms?
lol its a secret code
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Are you on SS or have you moved onto texas?
Still SS. I've had more than 2 resets but they're not due to stalling. I'm milking the SS-train.
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You say you're relatively inexperienced but then you're worried about over training the squat. How much do you squat?

If you really are inexperienced, then you should easily be able to cope with three times a week for now.

I agree that SS is best for beginners, even if you want to move onto a more complex program eventually, you need to lay the foundations of basic core strength and SS is the best for that Even if you only do it for six months, as long as you eat well you'll see good gains and be able to push on from there.
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Wow, very useful tips. If SS is good for beginners then what's the benefits of WSFSB?

There haven't been much about it?

I've been meaning to start the SS to try and bulk up.
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Wow, very useful tips. If SS is good for beginners then what's the benefits of WSFSB?

There haven't been much about it?

I've been meaning to start the SS to try and bulk up.
Something different, some people get bored of doing the same **** week in week out.

Wsfsb also has some hypertrophy bits as well as strength bits.

some days it incorporate plyometrics etc..so is pretty good for general conditioning.

good routine if you are playing a sport on the side week in week out.
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wtf are these acronyms?
SS = Starting Strength, a beginners weightlifting programme by Mark Rippetoe, look here: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program

WS4SB = Westside for Skinny *******s, a beginner/intermediate weightlifting programme for athletes by Joe DeFranco, look here: http://www.defrancostraining.com/art...rds-part3.html

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