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    (Original post by Broderss)
    I am indifferent to the BNP beliefs. As I have stated earlier all I am trying to do is to get people so look beyond what they are told. In this case you are told the BNP are racist, however I have shown you they care not only about racial issues but have many more credible ideas on the running of this country. That is all I am doing.

    So, to recapitulate, I am not promoting anything nor am I condoning any racist behaviour.
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    And when did I say that you were promoting / condoning racist behaviour.

    You clearly don't know what to argue here and supporting protectionism, from a British point of view (!), is ludicrous. :rolleyes:

    I think this debate (if I can call it that) has run it's course for me.

    Ta ta. :top2:
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Have you actually read any of these? Because none of these are actually racist.
    Your silly

    Rape quotes :

    "I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime...
    'Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.
    'To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence.
    'A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.'

    Women quotes: 'Give her a slap!',
    'Some women are like gongs ? they need to be struck regularly.?
    mothers 'should never go out to work' and described career women as 'unnatural and vile'.

    They are like the Nazi's, so do not let them win seats.
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    :facepalm:

    And when did I say that you were promoting / condoning racist behaviour.

    You clearly don't know what to argue here and supporting protectionism, from a British point of view (!), is ludicrous. :rolleyes:

    I think this debate (if I can call it that) has run it's course for me.

    Ta ta. :top2:
    Good day to you, Sir. :hat:
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    We all know BNP can make nice policies to pull our heartstrings and make us say 'aww they are doing the right thing, there are with us, they stand by the public'. As far as I'm aware, this rhetoric has been repeated with almost every party in every country- How they will the poor and needy, how they will pump money into the most needed public services. This has been repeated and repeated. Promises are made. But how exactly are they going to uphold those policies.
    As as a result, promises are broken.


    It's all on the surface, you have given alluring yet quite good points to manipulate us into voting the BNP. However, these points the BNP are making are nothing new, they have been repeated by many, not even BNP supporters, just your average joe, who acknowledges this.


    -Obama in October 2007 said the Afghan war will end as soon as he wins presidency. Did he?
    ''Obama's PROMISE To End The War - Oct. 27, 2007''
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZvWilRn0L8

    Did he keep it?
    President Obama has committed thirty thousand more troops to Afghanistan'.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eod2h...eature=related

    -Barack Obama 'to close Guantánamo Bay' within first week in office.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X99aW...eature=related

    Did he?

    ''They complained about President Barack Obama's broken promise to close the prison in southern Cuba within the first year of his mandate.

    The US president had pledged on January 22, 2009, to shut down the detention center.

    Protesters said Obama continues policies of his predecessor George W. Bush.

    "Almost one year into the Obama presidency, we now see that President Obama has no intention of returning to the people the power that he inherited from George Bush," said the Director of Center for Constitutional Rights, Vince Warren.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...tionid=3510203
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    We currently have a **** leader whom nobody even voted into power, yet he has not been assassinated.
    Their is a difference between a undemocratically elected leader and a racist party leader who preaches hatred towards all ethnic minorities.

    A politicans enemies will be MP's and other parties

    A racists enemies will be all Mp's,other parties and ALL ethnic minorities(Don't forget the EU and Barack Obama 'USA' don't reply with comments suggesting you support the BNP because you will always fail in whatever point you try and get across

    http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/politics/griffin-raises-assassination-fears-$1335914.htm

    Even the moron dic griffin admits what I stated
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    (Original post by the_secret_billionaire)
    Your a ******* mong.

    Rape quotes :

    "I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime...
    'Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.
    'To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence.
    'A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.'

    Women quotes: 'Give her a slap!',
    'Some women are like gongs ? they need to be struck regularly.?
    mothers 'should never go out to work' and described career women as 'unnatural and vile'.

    They are like the Nazi's, so do not let them win seats.
    True, but don't insult me again and don't use such foul words such as 'mong'. You dislike Nazis and the BNP? Well don't have the same attitude as them, you hypocrite.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    True, but don't insult me again and don't use such foul words such as 'mong'. You dislike Nazis and the BNP? Well don't have the same attitude as them, you hypocrite.
    U prefer the alteration to "silly" lol
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Protectionism is ownage. You just wait until the day free trade becomes your country's downfall.
    we have little left to protect.
    Foreign investment in this country is all that is keeping it going.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    we have little left to protect.
    Foreign investment in this country is all that is keeping it going.
    Ironically, a lot of it from investors from those disgusting third-world countries, or even worse, Islamic ones.

    What will the BNP do now?! :rolleyes:
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    If the BNP come into power, I can no longer stay in England to continue my education and lifestyle.

    So, why vote BNP?
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    OK, due to the unbelievable amount of idiocy and ignorance throughout TSR in regards to the BNP, where you seem to immediatley refer to the BNP and anyone who has pride in their country as 'racists' when in actual fact they're not racist and it is not a racist issue. The BNP is in actual fact more concerned with the welfare of Great Britain as a nation rather than protecting 'indigenous' British while shooing foreigners.

    Here, I have compiled a list of some of the more beneficial policies the BNP has after omitting some of the more racist ones.

    If you disagree that any one of these is not beneficial to the UK, please suggest why you feel like this and if possible suggest other political policies that would be of more benefit.

    Also, discuss the ones you think would absolutely make Britain a better country.

    UPDATE: Missed one very crucial policy:

    - Reach an accord with the Muslim world whereby they will agree to take back their excess population which is currently colonising this country, in exchange for an ironclad guarantee that Britain will never again interfere in the political affairs of the Middle East or try to dictate to any Arab or Muslim country as to what their internal government form should be;

    Immigration
    - Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;

    Crime and Justice
    - Free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket which is stopping them from doing their jobs properly;
    - End the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replace it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims;
    - Re-introduce corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals;
    - Restore capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute (such as with DNA or other compelling evidence);
    - Make prisons more austere and make criminals serve their full sentences. Offenders will be made to understand that they are being punished and not rewarded with a state-subsidised holiday for their crimes;
    - Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;
    - Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;
    - Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property;
    - Grant anonymity to those accused of crimes until they are convicted;
    - Make police concentrate on real criminals and serve the public, not the government’s political aspirations;

    Economy
    The BNP plan to rebuild Britain will consist of the following steps:
    - The nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries;
    - The protection of British companies from unfair foreign imports;
    - The promotion of domestic competition;
    - Increased taxes on companies which outsource work abroad;
    - The reintroduction of the married man’s allowance;
    - The raising of the inheritance tax threshold to £1 million;
    - The encouragement of savings, investment, worker share-ownership and profit-sharing;
    - Halving council tax by centralising education costs and eliminating multiculturalism spending and unnecessary bureaucracy;
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    Save money:
    - Ending the £4.5 billion a year wars in Iraq and Afghanistan;
    - Ending the untold billions spent subsidising the immigration swindle and all its ancillary costs (benefits, court and jail services, counter-terrorism measures, the “race relations” industry and a host of others);
    - Severely curtailing the tax-subsidised feeding frenzy at Westminster and other levels of government;
    - Cutting back all unnecessary layers of government which have been artificially created by years of politically correct Labour and Tory rule;

    Education
    - The teaching of old-fashioned literacy skills (as opposed to clearly failed “modern” teaching methods);
    - The teaching of old-fashioned mathematics skills which have practical application to everyday life;
    - The teaching of a full curriculum of British history. This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain, and not the cherry-picked politically correct drivel being fed to children today;
    - The abolition of fees and the restoration of full grants to university students studying proper subjects (as opposed to fake "social sciences" ); (WTF!!???)
    - The improvement of school food as proper meals have been shown to be linked to behaviour and achievement;

    Health
    - Replace 100,000 NHS bureaucrats with doctors, nurses and dentists;
    - Invest sufficient money in the NHS to provide a decent service to the British people;
    - Bring hospital cleaning back in-house and make high cleanliness a top priority;
    - End the scandal of foreign health tourism;
    - Train and pay to retain British doctors, nurses and dentists instead of looting the Third World of staff who are desperately needed in their home countries;
    - Revitalise the healthcare system by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention — low pay.
    - We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them.
    - Finally, more emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets;

    Environment
    - The removal of unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground;
    - The creation of a bulk transport tax regime that pushes supermarkets to supply more local and seasonal produce;
    - The encouragement of an extensive and rapid switchover to organic and low fossil fuel farming techniques;
    - The banning of the ritual slaughter of animals without pre-stunning, and the sale of such meat;
    - The elimination of the unhealthy, energy intensive and cruel factory farming of livestock;
    - The abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections;
    - Develop alternative transport fuels such as bio-diesel and hydrogen;
    - Develop renewable energy sources such as off-shore wind farms, wave, tidal and solar energy;
    - Investigate the feasibility of cutting-edge, intrinsically-safe, fast-breeder nuclear stations;
    - Invest in a high-speed, magnetic levitation, inter-city rail network;
    - Allow the building of a new privately-funded airport on reclaimed land in the Thames estuary to reduce the pressure on, and stop the constant expansion of, the South East’s airports;

    Housing & Welfare
    - A BNP government will restore the earnings link with pensions and ensure that elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care in their old age;

    Defence
    - Strengthen our conventional forces;
    - Retain a genuinely independent nuclear deterrent and produce all our weaponry in Britain;
    - Only commit British forces when British national interests are at stake;
    - Preserve and restore our historic County Regiments;
    - Bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since political developments make both commitments obsolete;
    - Close all foreign military bases on British soil;
    - Refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peacekeeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake;
    - Restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service;

    Foreign Affairs
    - Maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.
    - Resolutely oppose the single European currency;
    - Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures;

    Democracy
    - Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws which prevent people from making a free choice;
    - Abolish the “Human Rights Act” which has been imposed on this country through the European Union, and which is nothing but an excuse to prevent British laws stopping the scroungers of the world parasiting off this nation;
    - Abolish all restrictions on traditional free speech; common law provisions against incitement to violence are the only proper limits in a free society;
    - Reject ID cards, intrusive surveillance and the retention of DNA samples of the innocent;
    - Introduce an English parliament within the United Kingdom;
    - Introduce citizen-initiated referenda whose outcome is binding on Parliament.


    bnp.org.uk
    I'm sorry, but whoever agrees with all that is a ******* *******. OK Number 1: "Reach an accord with the Muslim world whereby they will agree to take back their excess population which is currently colonising this country" So how will "Removing all the muslims" help britain? Hmm? How? You people are obviously implying that muslims are ruining this country. You tell me how they are doing this. Prick!

    Number 2: "- The teaching of a full curriculum of British history instead of the politically correct drivel being fed to children today;" So i assume your talking about Black History Month, right. Cos why should anyone have to know any other history other than 'white' history. So this includes the banning of American history right? Because that doesn't fall under "british history", does it?

    Number 3:- Train and pay to retain British doctors, nurses and dentists instead of looting the Third World of staff who are desperately needed in their home countries; What a load of ********! How are they desperately needed in their countries? So what, they arent allowed to make a living here?

    Number 4:We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid So we cant even help? If this had happened to us (yes i know it is near impossible) wouldn't we expect the same kind of help???

    Number 5:- Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws Those laws keep people like you from attacking 'different" people in the street, purely because they come from a different background. *******!

    Well thank you very much for the delightful read! I will NEVER vote for your racist party. Ever. So you can save your time. *****.
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    (Original post by flugelr)
    Could be seen as an easy way out, but keeping someone in prison costs literally millions of pounds. At the most basic level it is £96 to keep a prisoner in a medium-security prison for one day.

    Even over 1 or 2 years that equals a lot of money, money that I think could be spent on healthcare or education.

    Just kill the prisoners and save everyone the expense.
    Aside from that all this, BNP are still racist! And that's the main point.
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    (Original post by ShayCamp)
    Number 5:- Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws Those laws keep people like you from attacking 'different" people in the street, purely because they come from a different background. *******!
    Er no, people being attacked in the street are protected by sections 18 and 20 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offence...erson_Act_1861

    The BNP are referring to this recent act I believe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_2006
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    (Original post by Moe Lester)
    Er no, people being attacked in the street are protected by sections 18 and 20 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offence...erson_Act_1861

    The BNP are referring to this recent act I believe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_2006
    ohhhh, ok i see. My bad. I cant be bothered to edit it. It's basically the same thing though. It's racial discrimination and the BNP are basically saying "Yeah that's fine!" ******* ********s.
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    It's kind of unfortunate. They have some policies there that are really very good, and that are completely unconsidered by the mainstream party, but they are eclipsed by the sheer volume of idiocy that comes with them. I mean seriously, they plan to pull out of major wars and other army activities, then boost our army? Oh dear, Nick.
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    (Original post by ShayCamp)
    ohhhh, ok i see. My bad. I cant be bothered to edit it. It's basically the same thing though. It's racial discrimination and the BNP are basically saying "Yeah that's fine!" ******* ********s.
    Yeah well wishing to repeal the 06' equality act doesn't necessarily mean you sanction that sort of behaviour...libertarians don't like it for example because they believe it is excessive state control over matters the state should leave alone. I agree with you with regards the BNP, the BNP are so statist they make Stalin look libertarian, therefore I imagine they want the acts repealment purely because it would affect minorites (not just ethnic but homosxuals, disabled people, women as well I think .etc.) and not for any particularly logical reason.
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    (Original post by ShayCamp)
    Number 5:- Abolish “anti-discrimination” laws Those laws keep people like you from attacking 'different" people in the street, purely because they come from a different background. *******!
    Oh, the same laws that allow Islam to kill innocent citizens and allow them to violently protest on the streets of London, offending and endangering lives, whilst the police or any citizen is helpless to intervene and correct these racial attacks.

    Common sense please.
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    Islam is the bigges issue to ever face Britain. Anything that helps remove it from society is very good.
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    (Original post by Jarve99)
    Islam is the bigges issue to ever face Britain. Anything that helps remove it from society is very good.
    I'd personally love to remove people such as yourself from society.

    And what the ****, can there ever be a week without a thread about the goddamn BNP and/or Islam.

    It's the bloody immigrants that need to be taken care of, and the BNP's policy on this is the only policy I support - the majority of the rest are similiar to that of Lib Dems and are only there to persuade the numbskulls of society that the BNP are "proper" politicians when infact all they are is a group of Nazi arse lickers who pray to Hitler.
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    (Original post by KimberleyJane)
    Aside from that all this, BNP are still racist! And that's the main point.
    For the record; I find the BNP an abhorrant party and would never, ever vote for them.
 
 
 
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