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    (Original post by pina.Love)
    So This means that children should be taught about how britain shipped their own people - oh sorry innocent children, let me correct myself again most ORPHANED BRITISH CHILDREN to australia and how they could not be bothered to even apologise for it, Oh wait they did, what how many years laters??
    Its funny how things like that the BNP tend to forget how britain themselve disowned their own.
    Btw did the BNP forget the britain also effed up other nations too? do they remember colonies? and the british empire? and how they forced these countries to speak english? So if the BNP are allowed in power (pssht) they mustnt bother to say that people from jamaica or certain other countries come in because they are not british I mean britain did use to own them and forced their democracy and educational system upon them, so it only seems fair that they are let in as a pay.
    So screw the BNP and their racist!
    *'...and they're racist' or '...and their racist views'.

    Correct English please.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    *'...and they're racist' or '...and their racist views'.

    Correct English please.
    Well sorry for my bad english I was so angry when I was typing. I did correct myself
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    - Re-introduce corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals;
    We should cut off the hands of thieves!

    Also, Islamist law is barbaric and incompatible with the values of the UK!
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    Hitler was also very good at promising everyone everything they wanted. I love how the BNP hate Lefty-Communists on the one hand and then on the other hand want a load of extreme protectionist policies. If you cry every night before you go to bed because we lost the empire you will probably buy all the ********.

    Criminals are victims too. Why are immigrants to this country less deserving of all the securities our nation can often offer than you? Why do you as someone who happens to have been born on this spot of land have an entitlement to greater freedom than somebody born in sweden/pakistan/zaire/paraguay/indonesia etc. Stop being so selfish, what have any of you done to earn this instant right to live here and stop anybody else in the world from benefiting from it.

    Also, how are all of you going to cope when you can't afford plasma TV's et all when these buy british protectionist policies come in. Protectionism and closing off to the world economy would greatly hurt the economy.

    Returning to a strict imperial system would be pointless and only help a few patriotic imbeciles and those in Yorkshire (I jest).

    'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'
    All of you BNP supporters stop being spoilt brats and realise if you dont get your act together and stop complaining about your 'right' to all this in 50 years time we will be looking at India, a country full of motivated young people instead of self indulgent racists, surge ahead of us in GDP per capita because people there understand they dont have a right to all this wealth they have to earn it.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    - Restore capital punishment for paedophiles
    baying for blood much?

    eliminating multiculturalism spending
    why? cultural syncretism is great. i fail to see why the BNP find it so terrifying. the Carribean Carnival in Leicester last summer was fuсking awesome.


    Ending the untold billions spent on.... counter-terrorism measures
    what?! so what happens if we have a terrorist attack?


    - The abolition of fees and the restoration of full grants to university students
    ...which will devalue degrees

    The removal of unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground;
    ...the implementation of which will ensure years of perpetual building and maintenance work clogging our roads


    Develop alternative transport fuels such as bio-diesel and hydrogen;
    - Develop renewable energy sources such as off-shore wind farms, wave, tidal and solar energy;
    that's happening already

    Invest in a high-speed, magnetic levitation, inter-city rail network;
    cost and disruption caused by implementation?

    Allow the building of a new privately-funded airport on reclaimed land in the Thames estuary to reduce the pressure on, and stop the constant expansion of, the South East’s airports;
    how exactly is this not allowed currently? just because no one has done it doesn't mean it's prohibited! cost, perhaps?

    Strengthen our conventional forces;
    - Retain a genuinely independent nuclear deterrent and produce all our weaponry in Britain;
    we really don't need either. especially if we change our present role in the world as you wish to.

    - Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep... our traditional weights and measures;
    ha!



    having said all that, i do strongly agree with the BNP on nuclear power, an English parliament and that floating Heathrow thing.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Immigration
    - Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;

    Crime and Justice
    - Restore capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute (such as with DNA or other compelling evidence);
    Paedophilia is not a crime, nor should it be. Child molestation is, but paedophilia is not.

    - Make prisons more austere and make criminals serve their full sentences. Offenders will be made to understand that they are being punished and not rewarded with a state-subsidised holiday for their crimes;
    Prison should not be about punishment, it should be about security of the public. Prisoners should be made to understand that they are being held in a cage because they are a danger to the public, and will not be leaving that cage until the can show themselves to be docile to society.

    Economy
    The BNP plan to rebuild Britain will consist of the following steps:
    - The nurturing and encouragement of new and existing British industries;
    - The protection of British companies from unfair foreign imports;
    Why should a company be shielded from the forces of the economy simply because they are British? If a company is not good enough to survive in the economy without help from the government, then it should crumble and be replaced with one that can - British or not.

    - Increased taxes on companies which outsource work abroad;
    Err how about no? Why should a company have to make do with a British employee when they can find better employees elsewhere?

    I agree, perhaps, that a company should pay a forfeit if they are bringing BAD workers into the UK simply because they are cheaper, but your policy is on 'outsourcing' in general, and I see nothing wrong with that when it is plain to see that many, many foreigners can contribute more to British industry and economy than his equivalent British counterpart.

    Where would you draw the line? Would you tax a university who sought the best academics from all over the world (which the best universities do) over the universities who simply employ Britain's best (which, compared with the international selection, might not be very good?).

    - The reintroduction of the married man’s allowance;
    This is 2010. There is no evidence that marriage is socially beneficial, and in fact, the vast majority of marriages end in failure and the breakdown of the family. Marriage is quite outdated, and the evidence in favour of it as a social construct is weak.

    Why should a man who gets married and ends up divorced, and splitting up his family be paid whilst a man who never gets married, but remains with the same partner and has a family with her for the rest of his life receive nothing?

    It is illogical, presumptuous and based on flawed or nonexistent evidence.

    Education
    - The teaching of old-fashioned literacy skills (as opposed to clearly failed “modern” teaching methods);
    - The teaching of old-fashioned mathematics skills which have practical application to everyday life;
    Can you clarify what you mean by this, please?

    - The teaching of a full curriculum of British history. This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain, and not the cherry-picked politically correct drivel being fed to children today;
    Sounds like YOU want to give a bias, cherry-picked curriculum, rather than the 'full' neutral version of events.

    A full understanding of British history shows us as a cruel, imperialist nation, bent on culling foreigners and taking their land. There are things in Britain's history for which its inhabitants should not feel 'proud'. And even the good things in British history are stupid to be 'proud' of. It is illogical to feel pride in the work of others, especially those from the generations previous to you.

    Secondly, international history is as interesting, important and useful for British students to know as British history is.

    - The abolition of fees and the restoration of full grants to university students studying proper subjects (as opposed to fake "social sciences" );
    I agree with you, except that the 'social sciences' are not fake subject. There are many extremely reputable subjects classified as the 'social sciences', but if I understand your sentiment correctly, then you have simply made and error in referring to them rather than the likes of Media Studies, etc.

    - The improvement of school food as proper meals have been shown to be linked to behaviour and achievement;
    Define 'proper'.

    Health
    Train and pay to retain British doctors, nurses and dentists instead of looting the Third World of staff who are desperately needed in their home countries;
    Again, if the best doctors in the world are in Britain, I don't really care where they came from. I'd happily accept a full surgical team with black skin, who got the job by being the best surgeons in the world, than by a full British team who got the job by being British.

    Environment
    - The removal of unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground;
    This isn't really an environmental issue. And if we treat it as one, I think it's safe to say that it's more dangerous for the environment to disturb the soil under every street in the country to bury power lines than it is to have them overhead.

    - The creation of a bulk transport tax regime that pushes supermarkets to supply more local and seasonal produce;
    Again, why assume that British food is better than that elsewhere, simply because it's British?

    Defence
    -Retain a genuinely independent nuclear deterrent and produce all our weaponry in Britain;[/quote]

    The retention of nuclear arms is foolish. Get rid of them. Also, if another country makes better weaponry than the UK does, then we'd be idiots to invest anywhere else but where the best is made, and that is not necessarily Britain.

    - Preserve and restore our historic County Regiments;
    If they are ineffective, or a better system can be proposed, then there's no reason to keep them. Tradition is for fools.

    - Restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service;
    Only an idiot wouldn't take issue with this.

    Foreign Affairs
    - Resolutely oppose the single European currency;
    Why? Do you have any logical reasons for this, or are they all based on tradition and ego?

    - Support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures;
    Absolutely foolish. If there is one community that should be consistent and standardised worldwide, it is science. You are an idiot to suggest that measuring systems be maintained for the sake of tradition if it is going to impede scientific progress. And how on earth would you enforce this, since all science and engineering students currently use SI measurement systems because it's much more standardised, convenient, global and familiar?

    Democracy
    - Abolish the “Human Rights Act” which has been imposed on this country through the European Union, and which is nothing but an excuse to prevent British laws stopping the scroungers of the world parasiting off this nation;
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    (Original post by KimberleyJane)
    We need to make prisons a lot more tougher but you really want to give capital punishment to these people?
    So your giving the murderers and paedophiles the easy way out instead of rotting in prison for the rest of there life?
    It would get them out of society a lot sooner and deter others from committing the same acts, which don't seem so bad currently because in most cases they get sentenced for only 12 years then released after 3 while being fed 3 meals a day, no work, no worries. The time of their life.
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    (Original post by runner7791)
    most of those are just idealist piolicies that no party would reject.
    this. much of the stuff on that list, especially the infrastructure stuff, has probably been proposed by all the major parties at some time. nimbyism and implementation cost/disruption always silence such plans, and the BNP would no doubt abandon them too were they ever to be in power.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    I'm trying to illustrate they do have good policies that surpass the ones currently offered by more 'correct' parties, which people seem to overlook due to the racist stigma attached to the BNP. And even the racist ones are nothing to how people seem to believe.
    Wait you're defending the BNP
    YOU'RE DEFENDING THE BNP!!!!

    Wtf..
    So you agree with Nick Griffin the Holocaust didn't happen?
    Bloody Hell, this bodes so well for the next generation.
    Go and join the fecking Nazi youth why don't you.

    Yes so they say shet that make people want to vote for them
    So do all the parties you fecking moron, do they keep their word?
    Fk no. Since labour has been in power the gap between the rich and poor has increased.
    If BNP kept their word in the same way, we'd have a muslim as a member of the royal family... wait we nearly did and they bumped off Diana... what a shame.

    Anyway.

    You're a joke, the BNP may as well be the British Nazi Party.

    What the hell is racism going to achieve in this day and age? Go back to the fecking Klu Klux Klan where you belong MOFO
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    Most of that is absolutely awful.

    And:
    their desire to keep ... our traditional weights and measures
    Bit late, isn't it?
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    (Original post by Suffix)
    Those policies mean **** all when the others are so ridiculous.

    Emphasis on this please.
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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    Paedophilia is not a crime, nor should it be. Child molestation is, but paedophilia is not.
    But can it not lead to serious cases of child rape and the like? Therefore a lesser form of it should be illegal.

    Prison should not be about punishment, it should be about security of the public. Prisoners should be made to understand that they are being held in a cage because they are a danger to the public, and will not be leaving that cage until the can show themselves to be docile to society.
    Are they really deterred after normally serving half their sentence? And are other really deterred because of the perception of 'light' punishments?

    Why should a company be shielded from the forces of the economy simply because they are British? If a company is not good enough to survive in the economy without help from the government, then it should crumble and be replaced with one that can - British or not.
    British company doing well = better British economy. After all it is a British government in a British country, why can't it look after itself?

    Err how about no? Why should a company have to make do with a British employee when they can find better employees elsewhere?
    Again, British company doing well = better British economy. Money going out of Britain = bad for British economy.

    I agree, perhaps, that a company should pay a forfeit if they are bringing BAD workers into the UK simply because they are cheaper, but your policy is on 'outsourcing' in general, and I see nothing wrong with that when it is plain to see that many, many foreigners can contribute more to British industry and economy than his equivalent British counterpart.
    But there are perhaps more 'bad' foreign workers, so the easiest solution is to stop all. Plus, a country has to protect its own, no?

    Where would you draw the line? Would you tax a university who sought the best academics from all over the world (which the best universities do) over the universities who simply employ Britain's best (which, compared with the international selection, might not be very good?).
    It's not up to me, dude.

    This is 2010. There is no evidence that marriage is socially beneficial, and in fact, the vast majority of marriages end in failure and the breakdown of the family. Marriage is quite outdated, and the evidence in favour of it as a social construct is weak.
    :cool:

    Why should a man who gets married and ends up divorced, and splitting up his family be paid whilst a man who never gets married, but remains with the same partner and has a family with her for the rest of his life receive nothing?
    If he is upset by this, then he should marry and get the benefits.

    Again, why assume that British food is better than that elsewhere, simply because it's British?
    Yes.

    The retention of nuclear arms is foolish. Get rid of them. Also, if another country makes better weaponry than the UK does, then we'd be idiots to invest anywhere else but where the best is made, and that is not necessarily Britain.
    The point is not to rely on other countries for weaponry for our defence and also to keep the money spent inside the country.


    Done as best I can be bothered.
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    (Original post by KimberleyJane)
    We need to make prisons a lot more tougher but you really want to give capital punishment to these people?
    So your giving the murderers and paedophiles the easy way out instead of rotting in prison for the rest of there life?
    Rotting in prison is better than on the streets
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    (Original post by Fatal_Microbes)
    Wait you're defending the BNP
    YOU'RE DEFENDING THE BNP!!!!

    Wtf..
    So you agree with Nick Griffin the Holocaust didn't happen?
    Bloody Hell, this bodes so well for the next generation.
    Go and join the fecking Nazi youth why don't you.

    Yes so they say shet that make people want to vote for them
    So do all the parties you fecking moron, do they keep their word?
    Fk no. Since labour has been in power the gap between the rich and poor has increased.
    If BNP kept their word in the same way, we'd have a muslim as a member of the royal family... wait we nearly did and they bumped off Diana... what a shame.

    Anyway.

    You're a joke, the BNP may as well be the British Nazi Party.

    What the hell is racism going to achieve in this day and age? Go back to the fecking Klu Klux Klan where you belong MOFO
    No, I'm trying to extract the good policies to illustrate they are not just a racist or 'Nazi' party, because people like you jump straight to it without realising what they are actually about. The BNP is a party for Britain, not indigenous British people. There is a difference.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    They are the only ones to claim want to implement sensible and beneficial policies.
    They may claim that, but the BNP are reactionaries whose very raison d'etre (if I may use that word) is social change under the cloak of Christian Zionism. To that extent they are not so different to New Labour and its Fabian idealism operating under the cloak of "registered charities" working for the so-called common good.

    Both New Labour and the BNP want change; the latter wants to revert back to old family values where the Church is seen as the community of local and national decisions restricting rampant materialism and absolute control from the banking elite; the former wants to push ahead to bring about social changes gradually (the Fabian ideal) but emphasizing the role of capitalism (and consequently the inclusion of the role of banks) in driving the economy.

    The latter social concern through Christian socialism; the former social revolution through capitalism.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    They may claim that, but the BNP are reactionaries whose very raison d'etre (if I may use that word) is social change under the cloak of Christian Zionism. To that extent they are not so different to New Labour and its Fabian idealism operating under the cloak of "registered charities" working for the so-called common good.

    Both New Labour and the BNP want change; the latter wants to revert back to old family values where the Church is seen as the community of local and national decisions restricting rampant materialism and absolute control from the banking elite; the former wants to push ahead to bring about social changes gradually (the Fabian ideal) but emphasizing the role of capitalism (and consequently the inclusion of the role of banks) in driving the economy.

    The latter social concern through Christian socialism; the former social revolution through capitalism.
    Thank you.

    So, nobody would call New Labour racist so why call the BNP racist?

    Similarly, nobody would call Islam4UK a racist organisation so why call the BNP a racist party?

    I'm glad at least someone has common sense.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    No, I'm trying to extract the good policies to illustrate they are not just a racist or 'Nazi' party, because people like you jump straight to it without realising what they are actually about. The BNP is a party for Britain, not indigenous British people. There is a difference.
    Bwhahahahahahaha.

    Considering I've been making an active stand against fascist scum for the past 5 years, I think I know what the BNP is really about.

    Lets say Adolf Hitler was running for British PM.
    Lets say he offered an extra 10% to every bodies wages. Whether you're rich or poor you gain in the same proportion... Yes great policy. But what is that person really like, he still hates jews, he still wants a supreme race to rule.

    But you're getting extra money. What a good policy. Oh please Mr Adolf be my leader because you have good policies.


    Do you really think the BNP puts what they truely stand for on their website? God no, no one would take any interest in them.

    Actually read the news and see what happens to typical BNP members, as a rule they have been arrested as paedophiles, torturing *******s.

    Now if they are people you want to run the country, then you sir need therapy.
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    (Original post by Fatal_Microbes)
    Bwhahahahahahaha.

    Considering I've been making an active stand against fascist scum for the past 5 years, I think I know what the BNP is really about.

    Lets say Adolf Hitler was running for British PM.
    Lets say he offered an extra 10% to every bodies wages. Whether you're rich or poor you gain in the same proportion... Yes great policy. But what is that person really like, he still hates jews, he still wants a supreme race to rule.

    But you're getting extra money. What a good policy. Oh please Mr Adolf be my leader because you have good policies.


    Do you really think the BNP puts what they truely stand for on their website? God no, no one would take any interest in them.

    Actually read the news and see what happens to typical BNP members, as a rule they have been arested as paedophiles, torturing *******s.

    Now if their people you want to run the country, then you sir need therapy.
    So, you're saying they're lying? I hope you're not being biased young lady.

    I just had hope that there was someone who could actually run this country properly, rather than the joke we have right now.

    And don't be sucked in by the media as they only echo what their audience believes, so you end up hearing what you want to hear. Thus, media is no more reliable than the BNP web page, perhaps even less so as echoing their audience is the media's only way to make any money.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Are you aware of the other MPs' criminal convictions from other parties? Most of them are worse, and those are only the ones insignificant enough to be confidently released so not to damage their reputation or jeopardise their political standing.
    The difference is that with other parties, acquisition of criminal convictions is grounds for expulsion.

    With the BNP, acquisition of criminal convictions is grounds for promotion.
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    (Original post by Broderss)
    Thank you.

    So, nobody would call New Labour racist so why call the BNP racist?

    Similarly, nobody would call Islam4UK a racist organisation so why call the BNP a racist party?

    I'm glad at least someone has common sense.
    I am aware that some members of the BNP were associated with white-supremist groups - apparently one member had a tatoo done on his arm to show he was affiliated with such groups. And then there was that documenatery of the young skin-head lad who championed the actions of Hitler against the Jews; and if I am not mistaken, the young lad believed that homosexuality was filthy.

    Whether or not the party as a whole is racist cannot be ascertained, but the party does seem to favour those who look back to the past glories of the United Kingdom, some of them look back much further still; I am reminded of the time just before I left Liverpool (am now in St Helens) when outside the gym a group of BNPs were leafleting outside brandishing the Union Jack with a crucifix right in the centre of it. Their members were made up of various church-groups, but told me that the BNP party in Liverpool is split because factions of the local BNP have gone their own ways propagating their own ideals and using their own funds. They told me that they had lots of money for advertising and are becoming very powerfull.
 
 
 
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