Classism from below is just envy Watch

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Why is being a "toff" so bad, something to be covered up and mocked? It refers to people with traditional upper-class mannerisms in general, but I think it's just a term of envy...
In the same way, some working-class/underclass people use "middle class" as an insult - yet it's also used by left-wing political classes to appeal to that envy.
What is so wrong and negative about being well-off and having high-brow style and tastes?
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Wouldn't you like to think so.
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why would someone be jealous of someone elses mannerisms?
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why would someone be jealous of someone elses mannerisms?


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Whatever makes you happy
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(Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
I am often jealous of the mannerisms of models in stock photos.
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Classism from above is just pretentious greed. :rolleyes:

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because its likely you're a masterbater :sadnod:
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Middle class is used as an insult by working class and upper class. We're bound to look down on those below us, and look up to those above us, the only difference is we show scorn outwardly for those below us because we consider ourselves better than them, and insult those above us to cover up jealousy. I don't know why you would expect human beings to act any differently.
There isn't anything wrong with having good tastes and manners, it's just natural for others, who don't even realise they are doing it, to make fun of those who are different to them.
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Pretty much true.
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Nothing is wrong with having expensive and high brow tastes at all. I'm called a toff sometimes and I take it as a compliment to be honest.
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Its ridiculous to see things as 'high brow'.
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(Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
Why is being a "toff" so bad, something to be covered up and mocked? It refers to people with traditional upper-class mannerisms in general, but I think it's just a term of envy...
In the same way, some working-class/underclass people use "middle class" as an insult - yet it's also used by left-wing political classes to appeal to that envy.
What is so wrong and negative about being well-off and having high-brow style and tastes?
The fact that its a lottery maybe? When we are born we are born into whatever class that your parents are in. What makes someone better than someone else just because they happened to be born into wealth?

You've obviously been insulted and taken it personally otherwise you wouldn't start a ridiculous thread claiming that people from the 'lower classes' or as you put it 'below' are just jealous of you (or your class).

Maybe if 'toffs' didn't look down on 'commoners' then they wouldn't call you 'toffs'.
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It is just a form of envy, and 'toffs' are used as scapeoats to critcise as being greedy instead of admitting most/some 'commoners' being so bone idle that they don't get good grades, dont get good jobs, and therefore dont get good pay.
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Well it is true, yet I dont agree with 'toffs' who have uninformed political views on delicate subjects such as Immigration...!
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Classism from above is just pretentious greed. :rolleyes:
This. A lot of "toffs" are associated with this attitude and when someone perceives themselves to be better than someone else as a direct result of having more money then people are of course going to be indignant about it. That said generalisations are all dangerous.
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Get out of your own arse OP!

Urgh, a toff with issues. Give me strength.
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Get out of your own arse OP!

Urgh, a toff with issues. Give me strength.
You too.

Urgh, pond scum with issues. Give me strength.
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People have the silly notion that by default they are automatically entitled to and deserve the lifestyle they want. When they realise this isn't the case they become envious of those who, by chance or through strength and hard work, have a better lot. In reality people of all standards of life can be happy or miserable and the path to happyness lies in accepting the hand given to you, trying your hardest to achieve what you desire and making the most of what you get.
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It's not always envy. I'm classist against the toffs who've no idea how to interact with the large part of society who weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths. I'm not particularly envious of being part of an alienated clique.
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